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Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

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North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

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http://investorshub.advfn.com/North-American-Gold-&-Minerals-Fund-NMGL-16265/



ASPA Gold Corp. (RENS)

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http://investorshub.advfn.com/ASPA-Gold-Corp-RENS-19309/



Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)
 
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Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:24:52 AM

Re: Nitwit post# 201297

Post # of 201350

So you seen it also!

Ran from .00001 ( yes 4 zeros) to .0009 then to nothing as it is now revoked

the cheapest average people could get was .00005 ( yes 4 zeros ) ... the .0009 area was very very brief... FFGO... lolzzz it's over ... if this little sentence actually goes back more than 2 years, while time flies... maybe I am thinking back even further... could be


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Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:01:18 AM
Re: janice shell post# 166512
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Allot has happened in two years!
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Bull Finch

Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:21:27 PM

Re: janice shell post# 7629

Post # of 7632

Sorry janice I seen it also, nice try!

"Wasn't FFGO trading across CNBC's screen back in 2008 at $1.60 per share, or more?"SevenTen Eleven

"No. It was subpenny at the time. I forget what the actual price was, but it didn't show on the CNBC streamer because it doesn't go out four digits to the right."~janice shell

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=28688312


moonster

Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:48:34 AM

Re: None

Post # of 201290

late last night saw ffgo on the ticker on cnbc almost lost it said fortress financial group ffgo .00 so beware soon jmho...



keepin12   

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:31:53 AM

Re: None

Post # of 201350

Going Private / Form 15

By Steven S. Snider,Barry J. Hurewitz,Barry J. Hurewitz and Barry J. Hurewitz of Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP

Counsel to public companies are acutely aware that the Sarbanes-Oxley Act has imposed substantial new costs and risks on officers and directors. Boards and management may ask whether any strategy exists to mitigate those risks and reduce those costs. Such a strategy exists: going private.

"Going private" is the process by which a public company ceases to be a public company. Rules of the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC") permit a company to de-register its securities and thereby "go private" when it has fewer than 300 stockholders of record.

This article summarizes the business and legal factors that are causing management, directors, and stockholders to consider taking their companies private. It touches briefly on some legal aspects of realizing value after a privatization. Finally, it describes three methods for going private.

The Business and Legal Climate

The business and legal climate have changed dramatically in the last year. Public companies as a whole lost $7.7 trillion in market capitalization between March 2000 and July 2002. The activities at Enron and elsewhere inspired the Sarbanes-Oxley Act and corporate governance initiatives at the stock exchanges and Nasdaq.

The collapse in market valuations has affected the economics of remaining public. In particular, while a public company should still generally be able to raise capital more easily than a private company, the advantage is diminished if the company cannot easily tap the capital markets at an acceptable price. Companies must make similar calculations when considering whether to pay for an acquisition with stock: an acquisition may be unattractive if it is too dilutive. Options are also under pressure, as regulators urge companies to recognize a compensation expense, equal to the options' fair value, at the time of grant.

There will continue to be compelling reasons for many companies to go public and to stay public. Indeed, for enterprises that require large amounts of capital, staying public is the only feasible choice. For all companies, however, recent developments have affected the costs and risks of staying public. The increased costs and risks include the following:

Independent audit costs have increased. The Wall Street Journal reports that accounting costs are likely to increase 15% to 25% this year. Among the factors driving this trend are (1) provisions in the Sarbanes-Oxley Act and new SEC requirements that are causing accountants to spend more time with audit committees and working on companies' Forms 10-K and 10-Q, and (2) the elimination of a market-participant, Arthur Andersen LLP.

The Sarbanes-Oxley Act imposes new risks on officers of public companies. Among other things, the chief executive and financial officers must certify, in each of the company's Forms 10-K and 10-Q, that the report "fairly presents, in all material respects, the financial condition and results of operations of the issuer." An officer who signs this certification, knowing the report does not comply, may be fined up to $1 million and imprisoned up to 10 years; "willful" violators may be fined up to $5 million and imprisoned up to 20 years.

Members of audit committees face new burdens. The Sarbanes-Oxley Act and corporate governance initiatives by the stock exchanges and Nasdaq generally require audit committees to oversee more actively companies' independent accountants and internal controls.

The costs of regulatory compliance have increased. Among other things, the SEC has proposed to expand significantly the circumstances that necessitate the filing of a Current Report on Form 8-K, and the Sarbanes-Oxley Act substantially shortens the period for making filings under Section 16 of the Securities Exchange Act.

The cost of directors' and officers' ("D&O") insurance is likely to increase substantially for public companies. A recent report by Willis Group Holdings, Ltd. concludes that financially strong companies face increases of 25% to 40% in D&O premiums while weaker companies can expect increases of as much as 400%.

Two financial developments have also fostered going-private transactions. First, large pools of capital are currently available for going private transactions. According to Buyouts, fourteen buyout funds raised a total of $5.54 billion in the third quarter of 2002. Second, relatively low interest rates may permit privatizations to be financed on attractive terms with borrowed funds.

Realizing Value After a Privatization

There are many ways to realize value after taking a company private. The business could be taken public again or could be acquired. Duracell is one of the better-known examples. In June 1988, KKR paid $1.8 billion for Duracell, of which $350 million was equity. In May 1991, KKR took Duracell public. Five years later, Gillette acquired Duracell for $7.8 billion. A privatized company can also be sold without first going public.

Finally, it is also possible to realize value from a privatized company by increasing its profitability and making distributions to its owners. Depending on the owners' tax-status and future plans, it may be tax-efficient to convert the newly-private corporation into a limited liability company or S-corporation. This has the effect of subjecting the company's income to only one level of U.S. federal and, depending on the jurisdiction, state income tax.

Methods for Going Private

A company can go private in a variety of ways, including a merger, a tender offer, and a reverse stock split. A privatization typically commences when a prospective buyer approaches a public company, which may form a special committee to consider the proposal. The special committee retains legal and financial advisors and negotiates with the prospective acquiror.

In a going-private merger, the parties execute a merger agreement, and the company sends its stockholders a proxy statement soliciting votes on the merger. If all conditions to the merger are satisfied, the parties file certificates of merger with the relevant states, and the public company merges with an entity formed by the buyer. As a result of the merger and by operation of law, the shares of the public company's stock (other than shares owned by the buyer) are converted into the right to assert appraisal rights or receive the merger consideration. The merger consideration is the cash or stock paid to the stockholders. A merger typically leaves the surviving corporation with one stockholder, a subsidiary of the buyer. The surviving corporation then files a Form 15 with the SEC and thereby goes private.

In a tender offer, the acquiror purchases shares directly from the public company's stockholders. The acquiror sends the stockholders a written offering document, the "offer to purchase," and a letter of transmittal, which stockholders use to tender shares. Tender offers are commonly conditioned on the buyer's holding at least 90% of each class of the company's stock following the offer. Ownership of at least 90% of the stock permits the buyer to complete a short-form merger, without a vote of stockholders or soliciting proxies. In the short-form merger, the shares that were not tendered are typically converted into the right to assert appraisal rights or receive the same consideration that was paid to the tendering stockholders. At the conclusion of the short-form merger, the company typically has one stockholder, a subsidiary of the buyer.

Companies can – but rarely do – go private through a reverse stock split. In a reverse stock split, each outstanding share is converted into a fraction of a new share, and stockholders receive certificates representing whole shares and cash in lieu of fractional shares. For example, in a 1-for-10,000 split, each stockholder who owned less than 10,000 shares would receive cash only, each stockholder who owned 10,000 shares would receive 1 new share, and each stockholder who owned more than 10,000 shares would receive 1 new share for each 10,000 shares owned and cash for the remainder of his shares. A reverse stock split is generally effected by amending the company's certificate of incorporation; this requires the company to disseminate a proxy statement and permit stockholders to vote on the amendment. A 1-for-10,000 split effectively cashes out holders of less than 10,000 shares and reduces the number of stockholders. If the number of record stockholders falls below 300, the company may go private.



Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:38:26 AM

Re: Nitwit post# 201297

Post # of 201350

lolzzz!!!!

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76119005

Maybe this has something to do with that!

I know this rule goes into effect tomorrow!!!5/31/12

http://apps.finra.org/Rules_and_Regulations/rulefilings/1/default.aspx

http://www.finra.org/web/groups/industry/@ip/@reg/@rulfil/documents/rulefilings/p124496.pdf

Found this also!!!Looks like it should hurt some as if i read correctly alot of this happens right here in the OTC!!!

http://www.whitesecuritieslaw.com/2012/03/15/brokerage-firm-best-execution-requirements/

Brokerage Firm Best Execution Requirements
Thursday, March 15th, 2012

The SEC recently approved FINRA’s proposed rule change to adopt FINRA Rules 5310 (Best Execution and Interpositioning) and 6438 (Displaying Priced Quotations in Multiple Quotation Mediums) in the consolidated rulebook (Consolidated FINRA Rulebook).

FINRA Rule 5310 is the new consolidated rule governing members’ best execution requirements. The Rule is tailored after NASD Rule 2320 (also dealing with broker-dealers best execution requirements).

The full text of FINRA Rule 5310 is as follows:

“(a)(1) In any transaction for or with a customer or a customer of another broker-dealer, a member and persons associated with a member shall use reasonable diligence to ascertain the best market for the subject security and buy or sell in such market so that the resultant price to the customer is as favorable as possible under prevailing market conditions. Among the factors that will be considered in determining whether a member has used “reasonable diligence” are:

(A) the character of the market for the security (e.g., price, volatility, relative liquidity, and pressure on available communications);

(B) the size and type of transaction;

(C) the number of markets checked;

(D) accessibility of the quotation; and

(E) the terms and conditions of the order which result in the transaction, as communicated to the member and persons associated with the member.

(2) In any transaction for or with a customer or a customer of another broker-dealer, no member or person associated with a member shall interject a third party between the member and the best market for the subject security in a manner inconsistent with paragraph (a)(1) of this Rule.

(b) When a member cannot execute directly with a market but must employ a broker’s broker or some other means in order to ensure an execution advantageous to the customer, the burden of showing the acceptable circumstances for doing so is on the member.

(c) Failure to maintain or adequately staff an over-the-counter order room or other department assigned to execute customers’ orders cannot be considered justification for executing away from the best available market; nor can channeling orders through a third party as described above as reciprocation for service or business operate to relieve a member of its obligations under this Rule. (d) A member through which an order is channeled and that knowingly is a party to an arrangement whereby the initiating member has not fulfilled its obligations under this Rule, will also be deemed to have violated this Rule.

(e) The obligations described in paragraphs (a) through (d) above exist not only where the member acts as agent for the account of its customer but also where transactions are executed as principal. Such obligations are distinct from the reasonableness of commission rates, markups or markdowns, which are governed by NASD Rule 2440 and IM-2440.”



The primary update to FINRA Rule 5310 (from NASD Rule 2320) appears to deal with securities with limited quotation or pricing information available, foreign securities, customer instructions on routing orders, and regular and rigorous review of execution quality. FINRA Rules 5310 and 6438 become effective on May 31, 2012.

Best Execution requirements can be particular important in the margin context. Although firms are generally permitted to sell positions to meet margin calls, FINRA Rules 5310 and 6438 (and NASD Rule 2320 before that) would still require that the trades meet the established best execution requirements (i.e. the firm still has to have the client’s interests in mind when selling positions to reduce margin). Often times brokerage firms half-hazardly sell positions in a client’s account to meet margin calls and compound the losses suffered by the client. In such instances, the brokerage firm may be liable for such damages as a result of its failure to meet the aforementioned best execution requirements.

If you believe that your brokerage firm failed to meet the generally accepted standard of care with respect to best execution, the securities attorneys of The White Law Group may be able to help.



Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:53:34 AM

Re: Nitwit post# 201297

Post # of 201350

The Sleeping Giant is Waking!!!

Who's Next! lolzzz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI



RENS - Form 15 Filing today! lolzzz

http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=8651157


Filling out on NMGL~ 05/24/2012 lolzzz

http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=8640292



Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:59:41 AM

Re: Nitwit post# 201297

Post # of 201350

Nobody has answered this question yet!

Why is SJCH back? lolzzz

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Saint-James-Capital-Holdings-SJCH-24215/



keepin12   

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:01:55 AM

Re: None

Post # of 201350

Buyout or Merger coming ? Interesting form 15 info out there.



Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:05:15 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 201286

Post # of 201350

Will we have another Filing next week(s)



Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:11:17 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 201286

Post # of 201350

Strange to have all these Filings

from dead, revoked, gone, no longer, empty corporations wouldn’t you say!



Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:20:22 AM

Re: alien42 post# 201259

Post # of 201350

Brokers are really nice guys!

Good to know they are looking out for us!! lolzzz

"absolutely nothing to do with anyone being short"


"i have no doubt that it is SOP for brokers to ask their clients if they would like worthless revoked junk like FFGO removed from their accounts and it has absolutely nothing to do with anyone being short."~alien42




tmsocha   

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:33:59 AM

Re: None

Post # of 201350

Prediction: RENS and NMGL will merge with SJCH.



Bull Finch 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:36:58 AM

Re: alien42 post# 201232

Post # of 201350

That's why this will be so much sweeter!

Someone has to be first in everything!


"there has not been a single instance of NSS in a penny stock scam like FFGO ever proven, not one."~alien42



AlanC

Sunday, June 03, 2012 8:36:25 AM

Re: AKFish post# 201291

Post # of 201350

AKFish: Good post! Why should any small business spend many thousands of dollars to comply with federal regulations when other federal regulators are not enforcing existing regulations to protect their companies stock from being manipulated? Makes no sense at all to spend that money until the company and its shareholders are protected from predators trying to steal shareholders money and bankrupt the company. When the criminals are brought to justice and the regulators existing rules and regulations are being followed and enforced, then, and only then will it make sense to be fully reporting. Operating in the dark prevents the predators from knowing what the company is up to and threatens the predator and that fact is visible every day on this board. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



paunch13   

Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:12:59 AM

Re: AlanC post# 201310

Post # of 201350

AlanC
That would be very nice but until some of the crooks are punished I don't believe we will ever see the laws enforced
John



Rocket Man 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:50:23 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201292

Post # of 201350

Not sure, but it wasn't trip 1s.



Rocket Man 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:23:33 AM

Re: lucvuillermoz post# 201316

Post # of 201350

I don't believe for one moment that $7,000,000 was spent for no good reason.



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:51:54 AM

Re: Rocket Man post# 201312

Post # of 201350

Must have been another Nasdaq glitch. Those seem to be happening more frequently.

How many. How many short sales occurred as a result of FFGO shooting across CNBc's Nasdaq ticker stream?

Tic Toc goes the Ticker!



Rocket Man 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:16:44 PM

Re: None

Post # of 201350

$7,000,000 in a promissory note is a fact and legal. $.0035 was spent on FFGO shares, it is in the documents and that is a fact as well. I am sure the SEC has read them as many times as we have here on the board.. Go SEC.. Nice your looking us over. I hope the SEC calls the IRS attention to the calls for folks to write down their shares so shorty can not only avoid covering but also avoids paying taxes in their off shore accounts. Might also call TDa and give them a heads up to not prod people into writing down their shares as well.. Thanks for all you do.. Goo SEC Go IRS Go FBI and Above all GO FFGO.

RM



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:19:15 PM

Re: lucvuillermoz post# 201321

Post # of 201350

Back in 2008, FFGO was running across CNBC's Nasdaq stock ticker as if it was a Nasdaq stock. It was going across like crazy for days! "No one" could explain the "glitch".

Another scam by brokers, bankers, and market makers with the help of their media outlet friends?

Tic Toc



Rocket Man 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:21:10 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201319

Post # of 201350

No kidding.. It was like hey look at us we are on the TV screen! Go look at the Boards and see if the sentiment is ripe for shorting.. Yup, FFGO had some serious sentiment back in the day. Even now with FFGO being revoked there is some serious and I mean serious attention to her and the sisters. Form 15 rattled the cages. Pretty sure the PTB are loving every minute of it too..



Rocket Man 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:24:09 PM

Re: keepin12 post# 201299

Post # of 201350

This is the part that catches my eye.. DISTRIBUTION to its owners. That would be me as well.. Nice!~


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Realizing Value After a Privatization

There are many ways to realize value after taking a company private. The business could be taken public again or could be acquired. Duracell is one of the better-known examples. In June 1988, KKR paid $1.8 billion for Duracell, of which $350 million was equity. In May 1991, KKR took Duracell public. Five years later, Gillette acquired Duracell for $7.8 billion. A privatized company can also be sold without first going public.

Finally, it is also possible to realize value from a privatized company by increasing its profitability and making distributions to its owners. Depending on the owners' tax-status and future plans, it may be tax-efficient to convert the newly-private corporation into a limited liability company or S-corporation. This has the effect of subjecting the company's income to only one level of U.S. federal and, depending on the jurisdiction, state income tax.




Rocket Man 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:48:46 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201323

Post # of 201351

Don't forget when HGLC became a new company from the paid dividends to share holders the DTCC and the Brokers held up the payment of dividends for a year and then had the audacity to stagger the payments to shareholders not by hours or minutes but weeks.. We have proof of that another FACT.



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:11:30 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 201324

Post # of 201351

Crazy that FFGO was trading at big board prices on a big board ticker, as seen on CNBC in 2008.

Tic Toc went the Ticker!



diamondguru-one 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:44:46 PM

Re: lucvuillermoz post# 201327

Post # of 201351

sorry YOUR "WRONG" !!!! it's NOT a mistake...it "WAS" going across their screens for a few months....and that's a "FACT" !!!!!

FFGO...Fortress Financial Group !!!! thats what it said..thanks again for playing!!!



tatoo1   

Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:48:30 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201328

Post # of 201351

Seven, along with so many others. Now in the pennies. Maybe when the HUI bests the 630 high again. Gold stocks will run up to the previous norm. Or in the vicinity. They are finishing a 2 year bottom.



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:41:43 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 201326

Post # of 201351

Plenty of Securities violations being broken AND documented, by the brokers, bankers, and market makers. FFGO, RENS, NMGL, and HGLC all victims of illegal manipulation.

Looking forward to $3449 to $1,600,000 ROI on a $100 investment!

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:45:34 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 201329

Post # of 201351

Wow...just wow.

"Operating in the dark prevents the predators from knowing what the company is up to" - RoadLessTraveled

Yep! Pretty much what it does!

Those illegally attacking FFGO have done so, and will continue to do so. I am certain that the SEC has dozens, if not hundreds of claims filed against FFGO. Those claims are by naked short sellers (bankers, brokers, and market makers) who are hoping to have one, or more, of their insiders help them to bust out another OTC company.

Looking forward to $3449 to $1,600,000 ROI on a $100 investment!

Tic Toc


SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:48:50 PM

Re: diamondguru-one post# 201330

Post # of 201351

If I am correct, the stock was trading around $4 per share while showing up on the CNBC ticker. I wish I would have written the PPS down, and documented it. Oh well, nothing like CNBC, reporting trades of an OTC symbol on their NASDAQ ticker, at thousands of multiples of what the OTC quoted PPS of FFGO was at the time.

Tic Toc



diamondguru-one 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:18:49 PM

Re: lucvuillermoz post# 201335

Post # of 201351

"that s nice to remember silly and stupid things from entente cordiale" ????? lol


silly ??? No !!!

stupid ??? No !!!

3 months across the TICKER ??? Absolutely awesome !!


You keep telling yourself it was silly and stupid ....BUT it was going across the screen for a reason !! thats a FACT !!! thanks for playing !!!



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:00:06 AM

Re: janice shell post# 7629

Post # of 7639

NMGL - Basically the principles are getting ready to distribute the much anticipated Preferred A's & B's.

Filing a Form 15 with the SEC protects NMGL & RENS from revocation by the SEC.

Many many many posts have proven that the State of Wyoming Statutes will protect an asset distribution of FFGO. This includes the liquidation dividends, which were last being held as Preferred A's & B's by Western Diversified.

All one has to do is email FINRA and ask them how the Wyoming Statutes will govern what FFGO can or cannot do. They have made it pretty clear that the State of Incorporation Laws will govern what a company can and cannot do ALWAYS.

Strange that a distort campaign continues for a company, or group of companies, that are claimed to have no short interest positions.




SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:39:23 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7635

Post # of 7639

Thanks for the DD! I have done my own DD and have no intentions of writing down my investment, at a 100% loss, ahead of a 3449% to 1600000% gain!

Thanks Again!

Tic Toc!




SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:39:41 AM

Re: Fire Lane post# 3232

Post # of 3237

RENS - Looks like Company is protecting their assets and the assets of shareholders.

One more web for those short to try to spin their way out of with regulators.

Toc Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:05:18 PM

Re: lucvuillermoz post# 3234

Post # of 3237

which assets ?

do you have any kind of valuation ?

personnaly i have no idea what is a land value with no cash only gold claims

such land worth close to nothing in canada

what is the good price of such land

the max is 0.2 something like it

there is no interest to look gold in such land,

the only interest is to create city

like las vegas smaller or bigger with better conception

rens has no value doesn t depend of gold prices, this is reality

rens can be bought for what it is just price of land in auction

it worth nothing more than lands price in attorney or auction

ffgo is the same but at least there is a divvy not paid as i see since seral years now

the divvy can t be improved since it is cash redemption for preferred at 0.003449 plus 3 pourcent interest

you saw ffgo.pk on big board but it was a mistake you confuse with another company - lucvuillermoz

Wow! First post in understandable English. Why the sudden change of format? Confusing your other alias with this one?

Dividend Coming!

Tic Toc



AlanC

Sunday, June 03, 2012 8:49:44 AM

Re: tmsocha post# 333

Post # of 335

Trading in the dollars per share range I presume! Go SJCH!!!



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:00:50 AM

Re: AlanC post# 334

Post # of 335

SJCH - It appears that the principles are about to make good on their intentions.

Tic Toc



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Cotton & Western Mining (CWRN)

Moderators:lucky,mydog, Rocket Man, microcaps1, tlc2, Chase Ferguson, 2H2O

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Cotton-&-Western-Mining-CWRN-5865/



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, June 04, 2012 9:31:12 PM

Re: janice shell post# 71976

Post # of 71979

It was believed that this stock was being heavily shorted in the past.

Is the CEO being charged with protecting shareholder equity and the company's ability to raise capital by forcing a short squeeze?

If so, is this another example of a company being attacked by illegal manipulative short sellers, and the company taking drastic measures to counter illegal manipulation by naked short sellers? And then the company being charged, and not the illegal naked short sellers?

Sure they don't exist! LOL!


Quote:
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United States vs. Robert Cotton, 12-60126-CR-DIMITROULEAS

Cotton, 61 of Houston, Texas, was the President of Cotton and Western Mining Inc.

(CWRN), a Nevada corporation that purportedly exported and mined iron minerals. Cotton was charged by information on June 1, 2012 with engaging in a scheme to manipulate the publicly quoted share price and trading volume of CWRN common stock.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



stoprun   

Monday, June 04, 2012 10:06:47 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201427

Post # of 201430

alien42': You seem to be missing the point here, there is documenation and proof of shorty being invloved in FFGO, the only thing is you and a few others of the shorties will never admit to it, so keep posting that no shorties were ever involved, if it makes you feel better.
GOOD LUCK & GOOD BUY!!!



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Last edited by Bull Finch (2012-06-04 21:34:04)

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



diamondguru-one 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 7:30:31 PM

Re: varmit post# 201484

Post # of 201513

"Absolutely"!!!! maybe thats why their very upset...door has been closed...cant get in or OUT of FFGO!!!! Glad I'M an FFGO shareholder "LOCKED" in....boy cant wait for that PAYDAY!!!! tic toc



Lebron23 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 7:37:34 PM

Re: diamondguru-one post# 201491

Post # of 201513

diamondguru-one, the only way out for shorty at this point is if we write-off our shares.............shorty is caged-in and dangerous!
And, as far as writing-off shares.....that AIN'T HAPPENIN' !!!
Go NMGL/FFGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Lebron23 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:42:43 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 201493

Post # of 201513

Once again........I will make the point that all attention should be directed to NMGL....not FFGO.




Lebron23 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:43:13 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 201497

Post # of 201513

NMGL is not revoked. (Don't look to FFGO).



Lebron23 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:43:31 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 201498

Post # of 201513

NMGL recently filed a Form 15.



wrj 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:36:04 PM

Re: None

Post # of 201513

No write down for my shares. My 60 million will get paid plus interest. My only regret is I didn't buy more.



Rocket Man

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:47:32 PM

Re: wrj post# 201503

Post # of 201513

Gold is going to $1,780 in the short term.. Go divy.. FFGO.



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:49:07 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 201504

Post # of 201513

Gold is up nicely overseas.

Tic Toc



Rocket Man 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:49:34 PM

Re: LAMBSHIFT post# 201444

Post # of 201513

Time will tell. Remember what I was told years ago? Mr. XXXXX XXXXX we take this very seriously.. Well after all these years if they do, shat is going to fly.. imo.. Thanks Norma, I'll be here..



Rocket Man 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:51:36 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201505

Post # of 201513

Looks like those in the know like what is coming.. $1,780 is the call in the next three weeks.. Timing is great! imo


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:13:07 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 201507

Post # of 201514

FFGO - I agree! Great to be a shareholder!

Brokers, Bankers, and Market Makers are in a tough spot. Regardless of their medium, they are not influencing shareholders to take 100% losses ahead of 3449% OR MORE GAINS!

Tic Toc




alien42
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:53:04 PM

you are the lowest form of scum on this planet.

you deserve to lose every penny you have invested in scams like FFGO.

mankind would be better without you and you ilk.



alien42
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:53:04 PM
you are the lowest form of scum on this planet.

you deserve to lose every penny you have invested in scams like FFGO.

mankind would be better without you and you ilk.

SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:54:44 PM
Good Luck Covering!

Tic Toc


alien42
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:54:55 PM
covering what?


SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:57:41 PM
Do you get paid for PM's also?

Go threaten someone else.

Your continuous slander and misdirection is well documented.

Thanks for the laughs!

Good Luck Covering!

Tic Toc


alien42
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:15:01 PM
yes, i get paid $1 Billion for every post and $1 Million for every PM.

i never threatend you, moron, you are so ignorant and clueless i actually feel sorry for you.

congrats on documenting the facts and truth that i have continually posted for years. if you make some money with a book or something i want to be compensated.

i wish i could find you funny but complete stupidity and naitivity really isn't very funny.

i have never shorted a single stock in my life, not that i wouldn't love to short scams like the ones you peddle.

the FFGO clock has stopped and you are deservedly taking a 100% loss in more than a few scams.


SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:18:44 PM
Nothing about what you do is truthful. But if it helps you sleep well at night, keep it up!

Good Luck Covering!


alien42
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:31:03 PM
i have years of posts with nothing but the truth and facts and have been vindicated time and time again.

you on the other hand pimp scam after scam, absolutely vile and foul you are.

i do hope that someday you come to grips with reality but i doubt that will ever happen.

again, cover what?

you really don't realize that the lies that you and your ilk spread are the only reason i and others will never stop speaking the truth.


SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:35:46 PM
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better!

Thanks for all of your support all of these years.

Strange that as an investor advocate, all you could hope for is that shareholders get screwed for investing.

Really speaks volumes for what your motivations are. They are NEVER to make sure shareholders are returned their investment, or are rewarded.

So...

Like I said

Good Luck Covering!

And for that matter, tell your BOSS good luck, too!

Tic Toc



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Cotton & Western Mining (CWRN)

Moderators:lucky,mydog, Rocket Man, microcaps1, tlc2, Chase Ferguson, 2H2O

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Cotton-&-Western-Mining-CWRN-5865/



microcaps1


Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:23:11 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 72499

Post # of 72506
It sounds like it and it looks like some people have been positioning themselves here -possibly for a long time-in preparation for this -so they can make lots of money off this frenzy.

Whoever has been leaking info to these parties could get in a lot of trouble and the parties involved could be charged w manipulation etc.



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:57:30 PM

Re: Sunnybank post# 72615

Post # of 72653

CWRN - There are many ways for market makers to avoid having to report their short volume AND/OR their short interest on the daily and bimonthly reports.

Even FINRA is aware of the loopholes and warns investors that in OTC stocks, such as CWRN, the daily and bimonthly short data may be under inclusive and under reported.

Trades not reported to FINRA within 90 seconds, would be reported as t-Trades, and would not be required to be reported in the bimonthly short interest numbers if they were short sale trades.

Riskless principle is another possible avenue of shorting and not reporting. One market maker sells or shorts and another market maker shorts to the first market maker in a non-tape trade. The short volume is not reported for the non-tape leg of the trade and the short interest is not required to be reported on the bimonthly reports.

CWRN appears to have been a definite bear raid target in the past, and is definitely being raided the past few days.

Good Luck!


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8 Certain OTC transactions (e.g., riskless principal and agency transactions where one member is acting on behalf of another member) are reported to FINRA in related tape and non-tape reports. Tape reports are submitted to FINRA for public dissemination by the appropriate exclusive Securities Information Processor (“SIP”), while non-tape reports are submitted to FINRA, but are not submitted to the SIP for public dissemination. FINRA will not be including non-tape reports in either the daily short sale volume file or the monthly short sale transaction file. Accordingly, in those instances where the short sale indicator is only included in the related non-tape report, the short sale data published in the daily and monthly files may be under-inclusive. Similarly, the published figures will not include odd lots since these transactions are not disseminated to the consolidated tape.


11 While members generally are required to report trades in equity securities to FINRA within 90 seconds, a firm could improperly delay reporting of short sales until well after the close, which would result in the under-reporting of over-the-counter short sale volume. Delaying the reporting of trades for such a purpose would be considered a violation of the applicable trade reporting rules and Rule 2010 (Standards of Commercial Honor and Principles of Trade).
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http://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/finra/2009/34-60807.pdf



microcaps1

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Wednesday, June 06, 2012 4:59:25 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 72645

Post # of 72650
On hindsight I can see positioning here on this board for this for some time and then a slew of big players show up all of a sudden w intent to defraud -so I cant see any difference between what they do and what they are accusing CWRN of.

I wondered why etmm was engaged in many called an unprecedented campaign of shorting etc against CWRN from perhaps May to Jan 2011 when the regsho short volume figures were 70-90% for months.

Why do they change so rapidly from day to day-what is the real # of days they have to cover -seems like a stupid question but nobody has ever given me an answer.

That-etmms manipulation-is 1 of the reasons why the pps was so undervalued when it was discovered in Jan 2011 and pps rose as much as 85%/day- gapping up every day and even intraday- so those hurt by pps rise alerted otc and otc looks at the rapidly rising charts and assumed there was a massive newsletter promotion
as they told me on the phone because such a pps rise doesnt usually occur without such a promo but there never was any promo at that time and pps is still being affected by that improper ce-so CWRN already being most undervalued stock I could find is even more undervalued.



joev2

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Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:01:04 PM
Re: microcaps1 post# 72642

Post # of 72653
Oh, I see. Those who are short and are looking to bring the price down (because nothing is substantiated) and desire to be profitable through the company's non disclosure status, are hypocritical. Also, those who have an alleged vendetta against Bob for their being skimmed thousands due to misleading or never coming to fruition prs are also hypocritical. After all, they too want to see Bob fall. It's because their hypocrites; not because Bob's behavior is more like a con, than a legitimate ceo.

Meanwhile, Bob traps himself through his own greed in a sting operation and posters who continue to glorify his company in spite of his refusal to release any pertinent info about the business (10q's, 10k's, unplugging the TA etc,) are anything BUT hypocritical. Oh, I guess those select emails should count, lol. The desire to see the stock price rise, the company succeed etc., even though Bob doesn't do what is needed to make that happen in a legitimate way is in no way hypocritical. Gee, thanks for clearing that up.



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Cotton & Western Mining (CWRN)

Moderators:lucky,mydog, Rocket Man, microcaps1, tlc2, Chase Ferguson, 2H2O

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Cotton-&-Western-Mining-CWRN-5865/


SevenTenEleven

Wednesday, June 06, 2012 6:18:26 PM

Re: janice shell post# 72677

Post # of 72692

What?? They wouldn't have to. When short squeezes occur, they're quite obvious. - janice shell

Yes! They are VERY obvious! The distort campaign ramps up and while the squeeze is on, claims of a pump and dump are all the rage.


Those following level 2's and keeping track of the daily short numbers know when a run from a squeeze or one from a promo is in effect.

This one appears to have been heavily shorted in the past, with likely HEAVY covering into the recent dump on news.



SevenTenEleven

Wednesday, June 06, 2012 6:28:13 PM

Re: janice shell post# 72695

Post # of 72696

CWRN - Its really a shame that the well-known demoters are not required to disclose their compensation as the "well-known" promoters are. But hey, those are the rules of the game, aren't they?

What? Pumpadumps are also quite obvious, generally entailing the use of well-known promoters who're being paid by shareholders (usually in some way related to the company) who intend to liquidate very large positions.

MaxShockeR

Wednesday, June 06, 2012 6:35:05 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 72696

Post # of 72698

Best post of the Day .. IMO

Quote:
Its really a shame that the well-known demoters are not required to disclose their compensation as the "well-known" promoters are. But hey, those are the rules of the game, aren't they?

What? Pumpadumps are also quite obvious, generally entailing the use of well-known promoters who're being paid by shareholders (usually in some way related to the company) who intend to liquidate very large positions.


i've always thought the same and suggested to some to try to enforce such laws, which would be difficult, but it should be required ... IMO to have a DISCLAIMER for both up or down paid marketers

$CWRN



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111




SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:34:38 PM

You are not looking out for shareholders or investors, and neither are any of "your kind".

NONE of you EVER fight for shareholders to be compensated. EVER! Very Telling, don't you think?

So who do you represent? Who are you working for, and risking your very freedom to defend?

You are either short, yourself, and know that you are in a tough spot, and getting tougher everyday; or

You are working for a short seller and hoping to assist him/her to cover. Not just on FFGO, but on dozens of stocks that are no bid or revoked.

If you are working for someone, then you should be disclosing to iHub that you are being compensated for your posts.

You sure as sh!t do not work for the SEC or any other law enforcement agency. Otherwise, you, yourself, would be guilty of stock manipulation and tax fraud.

Keep posting on iHub! You are leaving a paper trail for the real law enforcement folks!

Hope you and your friends are able to Cover! $0.003449 to $4.60!

Good Luck!


alien42
Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:19:11 AM

You are not looking out for shareholders or investors, and neither are any of "your kind".

that's absolute BS and i have warned investors of scams long before they are revoked, when there is still time to get out and recoup some of ones investment.


NONE of you EVER fight for shareholders to be compensated. EVER!

when i lost money in the first penny stock scam i invested in, i took full responsibility for that loss and didn't expect to be compensated for my own mistake. why should scam victims like you who continue to ignore reality and continue to spread the con-artists lies be compensated?


So who do you represent? Who are you working for, and risking your very freedom to defend?

i work for no one and am not risking my freedom, in fact i am excercising my freedom.


You are either short, yourself, and know that you are in a tough spot, and getting tougher everyday; or

You are working for a short seller and hoping to assist him/her to cover. Not just on FFGO, but on dozens of stocks that are no bid or revoked.

sorry, but you are 100% long and as i have stated many times, i never had any financial interest in the scam fka FFGO.


If you are working for someone, then you should be disclosing to iHub that you are being compensated for your posts.

do i really need to keep repeating myself?


You sure as sh!t do not work for the SEC or any other law enforcement agency. Otherwise, you, yourself, would be guilty of stock manipulation and tax fraud.

apparently i do need to keep repeating myself.


Keep posting on iHub! You are leaving a paper trail for the real law enforcement folks!

i don't plan on going anywhere and i will continue to exercise my freedoms as a law abiding American.


Hope you and your friends are able to Cover! $0.003449 to $4.60!

your ignorance is mind blowing.

as for luck, i would say you'll need it but it's too late for that.

enjoy your 100% loss in the scam fka FFGO, you deserve it.

Good Luck!


SevenTenEleven
Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:21:31 AM

You guys all stick to the same script.

Keep up the good work!

Dividend Coming!

And so are those margin calls!


alien42
Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:24:12 AM
yeah, it's called the truth.

unlike your world of fantasy.
Good Luck!


SevenTenEleven
Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:07:48 AM

I find this part of "the script" very interesting:

when i lost money in the first penny stock scam i invested in, i took full responsibility for that loss and didn't expect to be compensated for my own mistake. why should scam victims like you who continue to ignore reality and continue to spread the con-artists lies be compensated?

So because you lost money, everyone else should? Misery wants company?

No, I doubt that. The simple fact is that is "your" platform to preach from. Hard to argue that logic, since it isn't logical. It is like arguing with an idiot. Not worthy of the time and effort.

The logical individual would think quite differently. The logical victim of a scam would try to help others who may have been scammed. They would help to make sure those scammed were compensated. The logical victim would feel some sort of vindication in others being "made right", even though they themselves were possibly never made right.

Not one of you or your kind EVER believe a shareholder should see a return on his investment. Strange. That is thinking like a short seller, alright!

I have to give credit to the person who created the bashers' handbook. Well thought out. Also, the format of iHub clearly is in your favor. No one could question your position, or your motives in the public realm.

One would have to wonder if you are an admin of the site, or at the very least, a mod squadder.

If you indeed are a victim of a scam, and you are behaving as you do, you clearly have at least two personality disorders, maybe more. You are clearly suffering from a Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder, and you are suffering from a Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

You my friend are the one that needs help. But I guess when the perp walks begin, you and your kind could claim some sort of mental illness or insanity plea.

Maybe it is therapy for you, and your crew, to attack shareholders. Not something a logical person would do, but maybe it works for you.

But...I doubt that is your M.O. and intention.

The way I see it, and the way the IRS is likely seeing it, is that your attempts to scare shareholders to take 100% tax write-off, based upon misdirection, and based upon consistent misinformation, is tax fraud. Just because you and your crew have a few friends at the SEC, doesn't shield you from attempted tax fraud.

I really wish you and your crew luck with the margin calls once they start coming in. Not just for FFGO, but for many other OTC stocks you guys have targeted and illegally counterfeited shares to sell into the market.

Keep attacking shareholders! You days running your scams are coming to an end.

I truly feel sorry for those who have lost a fortune based upon your "goodwill".

Many of us are not compensated to expose your intent to harm others' investments. We are often shareholders with a position in many of the stocks you prey upon. We will continue to expose the truth, as long as we are allowed to post on iHub. It is clear, that part of your intent is to get us banned or limited in our "freedom of speech.

Good Luck Covering!


alien42
Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:19:08 AM

So because you lost money, everyone else should? Misery wants company?

no, but that is exactly what happens when you invest in a scam. the only difference is that i accepted reality and learned a lesson from it, unlike you and your absolute denial of reality. when anyone buys a penny stock they should be fully aware that all of their money could be gone in an instant and that is the nature of the beast.


The logical victim of a scam would try to help others who may have been scammed.

i publicly warned everyone of the FFGO scam before the revocation and that is all i can offer. the result is that naive victims who have no grasp on reality attack those of us who speak the truth and you want to me fight for them? lol.


your complete disconnect from reality is mind blowing, absolutely mind blowing.

there is a reason i asked if you have any mental problems or are on any medication. that is the only valid excuse for your ignorance.



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Cotton & Western Mining (CWRN)

Moderators:lucky,mydog, Rocket Man, microcaps1, tlc2, Chase Ferguson, 2H2O

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Cotton-&-Western-Mining-CWRN-5865/


MaxShockeR

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Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:01:22 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 73012

Post # of 73018
i agree why would only CWRN be targeted when there is a Full list of stocks included in that Litigation ?

Why CWRN ? gotta wonder why the interest would be more here with CWRN ?

hey "Bahamas Short Trading Crew" get off our stock already ... pfffttt ... LOL !!!!

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-108.htm

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2012/lr22389.htm

$CWRN

EDITED


DevilDolphin

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Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:14:05 PM
Re: lucky,mydog post# 73044

Post # of 73054
I don't think he's lookin at 20 years! Thats just outlandishly absurd. As a matter of speaking how do you know the filing is not a sting set up between Bob, SEC and FBI to bust the ring of illigal activities on here! I have read on several other boards where CEO's have threatened to take action against members of certain forums. Maybe ours is so tired of the remarks against his moral character that he reported the activity on here and is sitting back laughing watching from behind the smokescreen. Maybe it took a few years for the FBI to get permission to track certain groups activities ex brokerage accounts for suspicious activity and now those that have disclosed info before release to lead raids are now secretly under investigtion? What new names would you like to call me in pvt message now?



sundown1

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Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:42:30 PM
Re: None

Post # of 73069
why is CWRN the only stock getting all the post and not the other co. that were also served? I think that was the ? being asked. CAN ANYONE answer this ?.


Post Date: 6/7/2012 8:12:41 PM in reply to 76398341 by MaxShockeR
Board: Cotton & Western Mining Reason: Off-Topic
CWRN - Those who short and distort only target companies with a story to tell.

If one were to graph the ups and downs and the pumps and distorts one would see a very tightly correlated pattern.

Tic Toc

Post Date: 6/7/2012 8:19:01 PM in reply to 76398648 by janice shell
Board: Cotton & Western Mining Reason: Off-Topic
CWRN - I disagree. Watching today's movement and the pumps and the distorts, there is a very closely correlated pattern of behavior.


SevenTenEleven

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Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:51:56 PM
Re: Roofer2 post# 73072

Post # of 73075
CWRN - It really makes you wonder when posts are being deleted as Off-Topic that are not off-topic. Not by mods, but by admins.

It is very clear that the pump today can be graphed with the movement up and the distort with movements down.

Someone doesn't want you to know about that.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven

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Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:54:22 PM
Re: janice shell post# 73074

Post # of 73077
I've always stayed away from these types of stocks. - janice shell

Not true. You are here (CWRN) now, aren't you?

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven

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Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:56:19 PM
Re: Roofer2 post# 73078

Post # of 73079
Looks like nothing but information on the charges. Nothing about the business plan or the progress the company is making.

Again, distorts happen as often, if not more than pumps.

Tic Toc



Nostradamus2012

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Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:57:50 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 73077

Post # of 73081
Yeah, She is full of it...
GO CWRN


5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Cotton & Western Mining (CWRN)

Moderators:lucky,mydog, Rocket Man, microcaps1, tlc2, Chase Ferguson, 2H2O

http://investorshub.advfn.com/Cotton-&-Western-Mining-CWRN-5865/


MaxShockeR 

Friday, June 08, 2012 4:05:55 PM

Thanks Finch i tried to register on deepcapture sent an email yesterday will check if i got a response because i wasnt getting any activation after 2-3 attempts.

God i hate BS im a ANTI-BS supporter, freaking bashers with an agenda, they think we are IDIOTS well soon it will turn on them ;-)

anyways i wanted to post my removed post, maybe you can post it on deepcapture ?


Quote:
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Post Date: 6/6/2012 9:20:08 PM in reply to a deleted post by janice shell

Board: Cotton & Western Mining Reason: Off-Topic

LOL @
Quote:
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no one pays anybody to "bash" penny stocks .. 17(b) disclosure applies to everyone. (posted by Janice)
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i respect most of your info that you share BUT that statement above is FALSE .. IMO because they are hidden groups so obviously they would'nt be DISCLOSING their AGENDA and the Rule disclosure would'nt apply

i wonder why there is OFFSHORE entities that can or get caught MANIPULATINGE stocks dodging USA regulations like Offshore MM's, Brokers or unknown 3rd parties etc...

so it's only logical that to do so just like pumping a stock they would need people or a group that demotes a stock so they can create FEAR instead of GREED in return covering their short positions or to BUY LOW and SELL HIGH ?

Also it could be TRUE what you've said above they are not PAID but they could be paying themselves by trading the targeted stock they BASH ? who would be on boards all day without earning $ for a living ? because there is Hired Promoters and there would be good reasons to believe there is also PAID Demoters as some can obviously see Online, we "THE INVESTORS" are not IDIOTS (read below of some recent examples)


-SEC Charges optionsXpress and 5 Individuals Involved in Abusive Naked Short Selling Scheme
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-66.htm

-SEC Charges U.S. Perpetrators in $35 Million International Boiler Room Scheme
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-93.htm

-Goldman et al Engaged in 'Naked Short Selling'
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/accidentally-released-and-incredibly-embarrassing-documents-show-how-goldman-et-al-engaged-in-naked-short-selling-20120515#ixzz1wVYvRH8l

-Goldman, Merrill E-Mails Show Naked Shorting, Filing Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-15/goldman-merrill-e-mails-show-naked-shorting-filing-says.html



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Reasons for Demoting a stock

1-They are employees that are not currently happy with the company.
2-They are x-employees that have quit or maybe fired
3-They are previous employees or employees of a company that is in some form of reorganization
4-They are competitors in some form
5-They have lost money in regards to the investment in company stock
6-They have friends that have lost money investing in the company stock
7-They are short sellers on this particular stock
8-They are related to some type of Market Making firm
9-They are paid by some unknown firm or individual to ruin the image of the company for various reasons
10-They are swing trading the moves of the stock-pumping up and bashing down
11-They are self proclaimed scam busters
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SO im sticking to what i stated below that this type of Dark hidden Market should be enforced and laws should be applied.


Quote:
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i've always thought the same and suggested to some to try to enforce such laws, which would be difficult, but it should be required ... IMO to have a DISCLAIMER for both up or down paid marketers
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$CWRN
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BTW thanks

have a nice weekend

cheers...max



SevenTenEleven

Friday, June 08, 2012 6:28:19 AM

Post Date: 6/7/2012 9:56:19 PM in reply to a deleted post by Roofer2

Board: Cotton & Western Mining Reason: Off-Topic

Looks like nothing but information on the charges. Nothing about the business plan or the progress the company is making.

Again, distorts happen as often, if not more than pumps.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven

Friday, June 08, 2012 6:04:35 PM

Re: janice shell post# 73284

Post # of 73286

What? If a PR is issued, it will be flagged and posted by IHub. As always. - janice shell

And it will be accompanied by a distort campaign and posted on iHub AS ALWAYS!

Good Luck!


SevenTenEleven


Friday, June 08, 2012 6:08:22 PM

Re: janice shell post# 73287

Post # of 73289

Are you saying people will deliberately distort the content of the PR? I really don't think so. - janice shell

Seriously? I think my wine just shot out of my nose from laughing so hard!

CWRN is a target of a distort campaign. The recent SEC filing is giving plenty of ammunition at this point. Anything positive to come out about the company will be used to distort.

Will be here to make note of each and every distort attempt.

It should be FUN!

Good Luck!

Could it get any better than this "spin"?


janice shell

Friday, June 08, 2012 6:18:15 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 73298

Post # of 73306

Then is the argument that longs never distort anything?



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

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keepin12   

Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:46:37 PM

Re: None

Post # of 201715

My account when logging in states 'your account change today' * %162,500 * gain. FFGO is only shares I have in this account.... lol Getting betr by the day !



tatoo1   

Friday, June 08, 2012 12:26:15 AM

Re: stoprun post# 201645

Post # of 201715

Yes. And thought it quite strange. So I contacted TDA today. Asked them about it. The Apex Client Services could not explain it. They mentioned something about real time quotes. But I told them I need it removed. They said they would have to get a higher technician to look into it. And to give them a week and half at most.



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 5:52:13 AM

Re: stoprun post# 201645

Post # of 201715

ETRADE does not have a value as a line item for FFGO, but the a value of $0.0001 per share is built into the overall account value.



stoprun   

Friday, June 08, 2012 7:53:28 AM

Re: tatoo1 post# 201649

Post # of 201715

When I talked to a broker at TDA approx. one week ago, he had no explanation as to why that was showing up on my account that way, but did offer to remove "FFGO" from my account (twice), which I told him no and that is the last thing I wanted to happen. I just keep watching my account daily to make sure they do no try and remove FFGO. Strange things happenning, but sure is getting very interesting. GLTA!!!!



paunch13   

Friday, June 08, 2012 9:01:58 AM

Re: stoprun post# 201652

Post # of 201715

Stoprun
Things are starting to change and when that is done shorty will have no place to hide and when the SEC is forced to stop protecting him it will be all over for shorty and he may have to pay back maybe 1 % of what he has seolen from the shareholders
John



AlanC

Friday, June 08, 2012 9:06:43 AM

Re: paunch13 post# 201653

Post # of 201715

The shorts are in major trouble here, we know it and they know it.
Looking forward to payday. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



paunch13   

Friday, June 08, 2012 9:10:53 AM

Re: AlanC post# 201654

Post # of 201716

AlanC
It will be the best day for the market when shorty is made to pay and we will have a much better market to trade in after that and just think of all the tax money that has been lost to all the naked shorts
John



AlanC

Friday, June 08, 2012 9:18:52 AM

Re: paunch13 post# 201656

Post # of 201716

John: No question the criminal activity of selling non existant shares has cost not only investors their savings but all taxpayers trillions of dollars. Surprising in a way that the IRS has not stepped up to the plate on this but I think the alphabets as a group are about to lower the hammer on the shortman as he is largely responsible for the financial crisis being experienced worldwide.
Our regulators and politicians also contributed mightily to the mess we are in because they looked the other way rather than having the courage to stop the fraud. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



tatoo1 

Friday, June 08, 2012 9:28:58 AM

Re: stoprun post# 201652

Post # of 201716

Wow. They didn't ask me about FFGO. But after inquiring about another stock that was in the n/a section and no longer trading. They said they could remove it for me. I told them no.



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 9:52:25 AM

Re: AlanC post# 201657

Post # of 201716

I will see what Etrade has to say about FFGO today.



carolina_rn   

Friday, June 08, 2012 10:06:53 AM

Re: stoprun post# 201645

Post # of 201716

Yes TDA has been doing the same for my 49,350,000 shares, Shows a green 4935.00 number but the balance is not changed



AlanC

Friday, June 08, 2012 10:29:30 AM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 201716

You have part of it correct, the naked short sellers are evil. They and those that aid and abet them deserve long jail sentences imho.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 12:23:18 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 201622

Post # of 201716

Simple, what is left for other deserving NSS victims and probably even a full FFGO payout?? The DTCC. The DTCC is supposed to backstop the brokers, clearinghouses, etc. much like the FDIC backstops checking and savings accounts at your local bank.

If $4 is the amount per share they have stolen then it is not a penalty at all. If it is $3, or $2 or 10 cents. The size of the price per share does not make it a penalty. You must believe that $4 per share far exceeds a simple repayment of funds and includes an extravagant repayment. That may be true. Or it may not be true.

I don't believe that everything is NSS. I do believe that the government data and behavior clearly points to NSS in FFGO. When you uncover "some" that you can see, it may be like an iceberg hiding much more below the surface that could really surprise you.

Greed has a clear stopping point. I will try to keep this as short as possible because it is a much longer conversation. It gets even longer when we are talking about individuals versus groups and institutions and laws. The CDO's and CDS's were a miscarriage of democracy in my view to grow from prime mortgages to subprime mortgages from more "reasonable" prime home "leverage" to huge subprime "overleveraged" home mortgages without a simple majority of people understanding and approving of this to happen. Let me put this a simpler way. Greed does not institutionalize a crime that steals from many other parties uninvolved in the transaction. Sacrifice is much more dangerous than greed, and it is more to blame for creating a "subprime" mortgage structure. I am not referring to the abuse of greed. These are concepts and definitions that are much longer conversation and would really change one's way of thinking if they really understood them. Sorry, I don't have the time.

Transparency. I would like to know the truth. I don't care about a secret shorty sting operation or such. Ofcourse, FFGO and NMGL should be more transparent in their operations after promising to provide cash dividends after the sale of gold mines. Failure to deliver that promise should provide another argument that transparency should be required. I am certainly not one of the Longs cheering over a Form 15. Sadly, I am so deprived of communication from the companies that I even look at this filing to not file as a positive that atleast the companies are still out there doing something and that there is still a chance of a dividend, however small that chance might be.

As far as DD being credible. The DD may be credible, but, the timing is way off. When your DD involves government action to become successful, then you have to assess your investment strategy. For me, FFGO is a grand slam type of proposition that could take a long while to happen if at all. As such, it occupies a very small part of my portfolio. I use more than half to score "singles" or "doubles" and small part to go for "triples" and "homers" and a small part to go for the FFGO type grand slam homer. (there's a peek LOL--I have got some men on base this year for sure--LOL.) Sometimes, the DD may be flawed. Sometimes, there is a conspiracy that may take years to unravel because the DD is spot on.

I, too, spend extra time on your posts. LOL.



AlanC

Friday, June 08, 2012 12:41:56 PM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 201716

Sure, they attack what they think are easy pickings to line their pockets. They miscalculated badly though in FFGO's situation as they fell hook line and sinker for the 5 trillion share bait. Paying the dividends on all the non existant shares they sold is going to take a large bite out of their profits to be sure, then again, they may just look at it as a cost of doing business and you can't win them all. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 1:38:39 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201673

Post # of 201716

The data exists and you and I have discussed it before. I already know that you do not believe in Short Volume, FINRA, REG SHO, etc. etc. There have tens of dozens of posts that you and I, Rocket Man and so many others have been a part of. You believe they are misunderstood data by us fantasy believing longs. No use going over it again.



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 1:46:23 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201676

Post # of 201716

are you referring the FINRA daily short volume which you both mis-understand and mis-represent? - alien42

Do you mean the data that is under reported and under inclusive? The same data that two bona fide market makers working in cahoots could game the reporting system, and leave a HUGE naked short position floating out there. A HUGE naked short position that would not "technically" have to be reported to FINRA bimonthly or on the FTD list?

It is likely that the short position is much much larger than many of us have calculated based upon the daily numbers. NITE acting on behalf of one or more naked short selling market makers may be exactly how the system has been gamed for FFGO and for many other OTC stocks.

One I am following is likely short 10 times the float! 10 TIMES THE FLOAT! AND YET NOTHING REPORTED!

AGAIN, FFGO is likely 200B or more NSS'd!

AT $4.60 per share, that is going to cause a lot of market makers a lot of BK's!

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:05:26 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201678

Post # of 201716

Well if the stock was naked short sold from $4 to No Bid and they have illegally short sold 5T shares, somehow, then the settlement would be $20T.

Sure hope the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury were buying shares at $0.0001!

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:10:48 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201680

Post # of 201716

aren't you excited about all the billionaires that the share printing pump and dump scam fka FFGO is going to make?

i know i am. - alien42

Anyone who has ever invested in the market and has lost on a bet, would be more than happy for shareholders to be rewarded on a play!

I know I will be happy for each and every shareholder who comes into good fortune from a payout of $0.003449 to $4.60.

Good Luck!



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:28:53 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201682

Post # of 201716

never in the history of the entire world, has such a return occured, not once. - alien42

Yet we have watched many OTC companies go from $5 or more down to no bid as the result of illegal naked short selling.

FFGO was naked short sold, likely by a number of bonafide market makers routing trades through NITE et al. Naked short sold from well above $4 per share down to no bid. They call that a cellar box!

It appears that there are a number of folks int he business of cellar boxing mining companies with proven gold reserves int he ground.

What is interesting, IMO, is that the huge naked short positions these companies have been straddled with have become an asset far larger than the value of gold in the ground.

How much gold is int the ground for the preferred shares WD is holding for shareholders? 20MM ounces last I heard!

20MM X $1600 = $32,000,000,000 (32 BILLION DOLLARS) Minus of course the estimated cost of mining for the gold!

Our preferreds are about 20-25% of that. $6.4B-$8B value! Minus of course the estimated cost of mining for the gold.

75B shares goes into $6.4B-$8B ... $0.0853-$0.1067! Minus of course the estimated cost of mining for the gold.

That is the CASH value of our preferreds. Minus of course the estimated cost of mining for the gold.

Good Luck!



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:31:07 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201684

Post # of 201716

I knew you would try to circumnavigate my last post by arguing semantics because some of the data is private and some government. Private or public. We use whatever trading data we can get our hands on to cut through the underreported un-transparent data that exists especially in penny stocks. Of course, to you, I misunderstand all data whether from private or public sources. So, again this is conversation for me goes nowhere. It is a conversation we have discussed before.



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:34:59 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201686

Post # of 201716

What I did not include in that post and those calculations was the value of the NSS to the company and it's shareholders based upon the $0.0833-$0.1067 estimated value of the dividend per FFGO common share.

Multiply those per share estimates by 200B naked short sold shares, or more, and WOW! The company and its shareholders hit the JACKPOT!

$16.66B to $21.34B cash distribution, above and beyond the cash distributed to common shareholders!

DTCC is going to make sure they get their money from the interested parties involved.

Tic Toc



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:43:37 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201685

Post # of 201716

What is interesting, IMO, is that the huge naked short positions these companies have been straddled with have become an asset far larger than the value of gold in the ground

So very true. Many companies need equity from shares to help them get through binary events. For example, a biotech company might do a secondary offering to raise cash to pass their new drug they spent a billion dollars producing through the FDA. FFGO may have needed a wad of cash to help defray the cost of mining the gold. NSS deprived them of that opportunity.

Anytime, the numbers are worked out as you have done, they point to huge huge returns!!!



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:48:23 PM

Re: OldBen post# 201690

Post # of 201716

When you look at the FINRA bimonthly reports, and according to the company, there are NO REPORTED shorts. So when the company goes to announce the dividend, and all of a sudden billions of unreported naked short shares are realized, post-cash distribution, the DTCC will be on a man-hunt to some pretty exotic tropical tax haven islands.

Tic Toc



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 2:57:45 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201692

Post # of 201716

Just so we are crystal clear. All transactions whether it is brokers, brokerage houses, clearinghouses, FINRA, REG SHO, SEC, DTCC, etc. all ultimately overseen by the GOVERNMENT. They are responsible for the data. When there is 90% short volume, or fail to delivers, or underreported or unreported data. It is "their" data to oversee. They are responsible. Yet, we have so many unresolved data that you say I misunderstand.



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 3:16:46 PM

Re: OldBen post# 201696

Post # of 201716

It is interesting that one of the options on the whistle blower form for the SEC, is naked short selling.

Wonder how many folks have filled out the form and submitted it for FFGO?

Tic Toc



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 3:32:22 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201698

Post # of 201716

"Putting a price in gold" by Central Bankers. If that was a wide spread effect that goes beyond settling oil and foreign accounts, it would go far above $2000. If we are talking currency replacement, we might be looking at $60,000+ It could happen in the future. I don't see it happening "by this Fall."

In the meantime.....



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 3:34:22 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201700

Post # of 201716

I looked at the form. It should be something everyone gets, all shareholders. One lucky shareholder might get much more. Though, that one shareholder would get the ball rolling for all other shareholders.



paunch13   

Friday, June 08, 2012 3:35:44 PM

Re: OldBen post# 201702

Post # of 201716

Old Ben
As long as our government holds down the price of gold it will take something strong to move gold up that much
John



OldBen 

Friday, June 08, 2012 3:50:45 PM

Re: alien42 post# 201705

Post # of 201716

If NMGL wont talk to us or we don't get preferred A & B's by the end of the year, it is unlikely we will get a cash dividend if they can't give us the Preferred A & B's as a marker in the mean time.

The key word was "unlikely" which I bolded. I cannot say "never" as you do.



diamondguru-one 

Friday, June 08, 2012 5:24:41 PM

Re: None

Post # of 201716

actually, "YES" is the correct word

FFGO will "GIVE" a divvy from NMGL or FFGO

NMGL will legally issue divvies to FFGO to True shareholders

I would be more than happy to debate what I stated any time with anyone here...Goooo FFGO

"3400%" PLUS !!!! tic toc



AlanC

Friday, June 08, 2012 6:17:22 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7677

Post # of 7682

No need for you to apologize but your constant checking is appreciated. Not a big or expensive deal to bring this paperwork current but we do agree when that happens it is telling both the longs and the shorts that big news is coming so please do keep checking. Go NMGL!!!



Texan77   

Friday, June 08, 2012 7:51:21 PM

Re: lucvuillermoz post# 7679

Post # of 7682

being of foriegn decent you should know grey areas exsist think about it


think of a maze where the center is visable but only one path with many wrong turns and ffgo nmgl has the map to get there lol hows that for explain nmgl ffgo divi




Texan77   

Friday, June 08, 2012 9:02:36 PM

Re: JammingJAY post# 7684

Post # of 7687

nmgl qualified for form 15 already fact



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E


Stay one step ahead of the Hyenas!

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Rocket Man 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 1:04:55 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 201715

Post # of 201733

Go Gold.. $1,050.. That is in the filings of FFGO..



AlanC

Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:23:42 AM

Re: AlanC post# 200595

Post # of 201733

Did you know FFGO management has been fighting the naked shorting of its stock for almost 7 years? Did you know that the stock was billions short back in 2006? Did you know that management tried hard to force those short to cover and regulators failed to enforce existing rules and regulations and allowed the naked shorters to continue to sell more non existant shares into the markets? Did you know management used every method available to them to try and thwart the attacks including multiple dividends and even reverse splitting the stock and still the naked shorters continued to sell non existant shares trying to drive FFGO into bankruptcy? Thanks management for being such warriors! Thanks for developing a plan that will insure that your shareholders are compensated for the suffering endured at the hands of the criminal naked shorters. Thanks for your courage and your caring.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!

Thanks to BullFinch for this DD:

Great West Gold, Inc. Continues
To Monitor Short Selling
NEW YORK, May 8, 2006 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) confirms that BUYINS.NET, www.buyins.net, continues its coverage of Great West Gold, Inc. (OTCBB: GWGOE) after releasing the latest short sale data through May 2006. From January 2005 to May 2006 approximately 28.73 billion total aggregate shares of GWGOE have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $22.7 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 2.21 billion shares. The GWGOE SqueezeTrigger price of $0.00079 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in GWGO. A short squeeze started when shares of GWGOE closed above $0.00079. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://www.buyins.net/.
Press Release

Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com

http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/080506_GWG_PR_Buyins_Report.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. – Squeeze Trigger Report
NEW YORK, NY, February 21, 2006, Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB: GWGO) announced on February 16, that www.buyins.net, is initiating coverage of Great West Gold, Inc. (OTCBB: GWGO) after releasing the latest short sale data through February 2006. From January 2005 to February 2006 approximately 20.59 billion total aggregate shares of GWGO have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $12.35 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 1.59 billion shares. The GWGO SqueezeTrigger price of $0.0006 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in GWGO. A short squeeze is expected to begin when shares of GWGO close above $0.0006. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://buyins.net/squeezetrigger.pdf.
Press Release

Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com

http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/210206_GWG_PR_Squeeze_Trigger_Report.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. –
Share Price And Trading Activity
NEW YORK, NY, February 17, 2006, Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB: GWGO) confirms that it has noted that its share price traded at a new low yesterday with in excess of 1 billion shares being traded on that day.
The Company has requested an urgent “Squeeze Trigger” Report from www.buyins.net in respect of the Company’s trading including yesterday and upon receipt of this report, it will be published by the Company.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com

http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/170206_GWG_PR_Trading_Activity.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. – Update On Naked Short Selling
Great West Gold (“GWGO”) Report
NEW YORK, December 27, 2005 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) announced on November 8, 2005 that Great West Gold, Inc. has now subscribed to a service that will “expose” all naked short positions in its stock on a monthly basis. The Company undertook to publish this list on its web site and issue a Press Release disclosing full details contained in that monthly report. Great West Gold, Inc. is now determined to attack those who are involved in the illegal naked short selling of its stock.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com



http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/271205_GWG_PR_Update_on_Short_Selling.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. – UPDATE ON NAKED SHORT NEW YORK, November 9, 2005 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) announced on November 8, 2005 that Great West Gold, Inc. has now subscribed to a service that will “expose” all naked short positions in its stock on a monthly basis. The Company undertook to publish this list on its web site and issue a Press Release disclosing full details contained in that monthly report. Great West Gold, Inc. is now determined to attack those who are involved in the illegal naked short selling of its stock.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com


http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/091105_GWG_PR_Update_on_Short_Selling.pdf
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:25:42 AM

Re: AlanC post# 200598

Post # of 201733

FINRA provides the evidence in black and white. Total volume traded for the day and the percentage of the total volume that were short sales. The numbers are staggering. Over 90% and
FINRA admits there numbers are on the low side. UBSS and Credit Suisse fined by regulators for mismarking short trades and calling them long. It is likely that every single share sold in the past two years did not exist. 100% short sales! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!

FINRA short sale numbers for Novemeber 2010 for FFGO!!!

20101101|FFGO|2849999|3849999|0 74%
20101102|FFGO|1750000|1750000|O 100%
20101103|FFGO|7000000|7107200|O 98%
20101104|FFGO|2000000|2000000|O 100%
20101105|FFGO|7999999|10999999|O 73%
20101108|FFGO|15050000|26500000|O 57%
20101110|FFGO|1000000|2898917|O 34%
20101111|FFGO|2419999|2419999|O 100%
20101112|FFGO|3100000|3200000|O 97%
20101116|FFGO|1000000|1340000|O 75%
20101117|FFGO|6000001|10778584|O 56%
20101118|FFGO|2000000|4014600|O 50%
20101122|FFGO|19845000|19845000|O 100%
20101123|FFGO|500000|1000000|O 50%
20101130|FFGO|20385000|21035000|O 97%
Nov. totals: 79,354,998.00 107,739,299.00 74% sold short

Here are the FINRA short sale numbers for December 2010:

20101202|FFGO|999999|999999|O 100%
20101203|FFGO|615000|4585000|O 13%
20101206|FFGO|1100000|1220000|O 90%
20101207|FFGO|700000|3700000|O 19%
20101208|FFGO|750000|1017259|O 74%
20101209|FFGO|2500000|4500000|O 56%
20101210|FFGO|57089999|74194973|O 77%
20101213|FFGO|6000000|10005000|O 59.7%
20101214|FFGO|28900077|31695902|O 91%
20101215|FFGO|5500000|5704441|O 96%
20101216|FFGO|33250000|54755000|O 61%
20101217|FFGO|8890998|9340998|O 95%
20101220|FFGO|5615800|6660800|O 84%
20101221|FFGO|9600000|11200000|O 86%
20101222|FFGO|24577777|31723803|O 77%
20101227|FFGO|154399995|176901620|O 87%
20101228|FFGO|4999999|4999999|O 100%
20101229|FFGO|9382269|9426819|O 100%
20101230|FFGO|7000000|7010000|O 100%
20101231|FFGO|4081168|8192303|0 50%
Dec. totals: 361,453,081.00 457,833,916.00 79%


2010 short sale totals: 440,808,079. out of a total volume of 565,573,215 or 78% shares sold short. Note well the SEC only started publishing FINRA's daily short sale numbers in Nov. of 2010.


January 2011

20110103|FFGO|20000000|22953402|O 87%
20110104|FFGO|9100000|9400000|O 96.8%
20110105|FFGO|8250000|13250000|O 62.3%
20110106|FFGO|11000000|11220000|O 98%
20110107|FFGO|9999999|9999999|O 100%
20110110|FFGO|400000|900000|O 44%
20110111|FFGO|1500000|2000000|O 75%
20110112|FFGO|1400000|1400000|O 100%
20110113|FFGO|1300000|1800000|O 72%
20110114|FFGO|23859999|38587151|O 61%
20110118|FFGO|3000400|3400400|O 88%
20110120|FFGO|7499999|8099999|O 92.5%
20110124|FFGO|1800000|1800000|O 100%
20110125|FFGO|800000|800000|O 100%
20110126|FFGO|10000000|10000625|O 99.9%
20110131|FFGO|317800|317800|O 100%


February 2011

20110202|FFGO|20700000|36210000|O 57%
20110203|FFGO|13400000|38601000|O 34.7%
20110209|FFGO|200000|365000|O 54.7%
20110210|FFGO|2900000|3700000|O 78.3%
20110211|FFGO|500000|4970000|O 10%
20110214|FFGO|2000000|2006250|O 99.6%
20110216|FFGO|17700000|27770000|O 63%
20110217|FFGO|525499999|528499999|O 99.4% COLD WINTER DAY
20110218|FFGO|7600000|8725000|O 87.1%
20110222|FFGO|10000000|10526708|O 94.9%
20110223|FFGO|2000000|2700000|O 74%
20110225|FFGO|1000000|1455000|O 68.7%

March 2011

20110301|FFGO|1000000|0|1350000|O 74%
20110303|FFGO|1795000|0|3492848|O 51%
20110304|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20110307|FFGO|1800000|0|1800000|O 100%
20110311|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20110314|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110315|FFGO|3500000|0|4500000|O 77.7%
20110316|FFGO|11500000|0|11500650|O 99.99%
20110317|FFGO|3114000|0|3617357|O 86%
20110318|FFGO|13020000|0|13020000|O 100%
20110324|FFGO|150000|0|701113|O 21%
20110325|FFGO|110000|0|110000|O 100%
20110329|FFGO|1497300|0|1497300|O 100%
20110331|FFGO|1999999|0|3430269|O 58%

April 2011

20110404|FFGO|5891100|0|6651100|O 88.5%
20110405|FFGO|126400|0|126400|O 100%
20110406|FFGO|150000|0|150000|O 100%
20110411|FFGO|456000|0|456000|O 100%
20110413|FFGO|876543|0|876543|O 100%
20110414|FFGO|4100000|0|4741400|O 86.4%
20110415|FFGO|1500000|0|2500000|O 65%
20110420|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20110421|FFGO|1560000|0|1560000|O 100%
20110425|FDTC|4000|0|25000|O 16%
20110426|FFGO|1000000|0|1000162|O 99.9%
20110427|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110428|FFGO|8072700|0|8322700|O 96.9%
20110429|FFGO|30210000|0|30210000|O 100%

May 2011

20110502|FFGO|4476700|0|4476700|O 100%
20110503|FFGO|7338600|0|10788600|O 68%
20110504|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110505|FFGO|1620000|0|2140000|O 75.7%
20110506|FFGO|1500000|0|1505583|O 99.6%
20110509|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110511|FFGO|3000000|0|3040000|O 88.2%
20110512|FFGO|7200000|0|8200000|O 87.8%
20110516|FFGO|8200000|0|8300000|O 98.7%
20110517|FFGO|4099900|0|4199900|O 97.6%
20110518|FFGO|585000|0|585000|O 100%
20110520|FFGO|1000777|0|1000777|O 100%
20110523|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110524|FFGO|500000|0|800000|O 62%
20110525|FFGO|18585000|0|18585000|O 100%
20110527|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110531|FFGO|7628700|0|8031462|O 94.9%

June 2011

20110603|FFGO|400000|0|400000|O 100%
20110606|FFGO|2710000|0|2710000|O 100%
20110607|FFGO|24000000|0|24000000|O 100%
20110608|FFGO|173800|0|173800|O 100%
20110609|FFGO|2500000|0|2500000|O 100%
20110610|FFGO|83100|0|83100|O 100%
20110614|FFGO|1500000|0|1500000|O 100%
20110615|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110616|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110617|FFGO|1105223|0|1355223|O 81.5%
20110621|FFGO|423000|0|423000|O 100%
20110623|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110624|FFGO|3401333|0|3401333|O 100%
20110629|FFGO|8619200|0|8619200|O 100%
20110630|FFGO|200400|0|200400|O 100%

July 2011

20110701|FFGO|5497995|0|5497995|O 100%
20110706|FFGO|400400|0|700400|O 57%
20110711|FFGO|500000|0|1400000|O 35%
20110714|FFGO|1102699|0|1102699|O 100%
20110715|FFGO|300100|0|400100|O 75%
20110718|FFGO|10850000|0|10850000|O 100%
20110719|FFGO|74000000|0|74000000|O 100%
20110720|FFGO|54100000|0|54100000|O 100%
20110722|FFGO|30000000|0|30000000|O 100%
20110725|FFGO|10346500|0|10346500|O 100%
20110727|FFGO|2400100|0|3400100|O 70.5%

August 2011

20110801|FFGO|8900000|0|8900000|O 100%
20110803|FFGO|5550000|0|5550000|O 100%
20110804|FFGO|7000100|0|10325100|O 67%
20110805|FFGO|5573333|0|5723333|O 100%
20110808|FFGO|405800|0|405800|O 100%
20110809|FFGO|3400000|0|3500000|O 97.1%
20110811|FFGO|3279000|0|3279000|O 100%
20110812|FFGO|100100|0|100100|O 100%
20110815|FFGO|14500000|0|14500000|O 100%
20110816|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110817|FFGO|10490000|0|10490000|O 100%
20110818|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20110822|FFGO|467000|0|467000|O 100%
20110823|FFGO|55633600|0|55633600|O 100%
20110824|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20110825|FFGO|750000|0|750000|O 100%
20110829|FFGO|1500000|0|1500000|O 100%
20110831|FFGO|45327062|0|61885560|O 73.2%


September 2011

20110901|FFGO| 777000|0| 832000|O 93.3%
20110902|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20110908|FFGO|1920000|0|1920000|O 100%
20110909|FFGO|2500000|0|2500000|O 100%
20110913|FFGO|5000000|0|5299100|O 94.3%
20110914|FFGO|3000000|0|3000000|O 100%
20110923|FFGO|2000000|0|2320000|O 86.2%
20110928|FFGO|1000600|0|1125600|O 88.8%

Month totals: 20,197,600/20,996,700 96.1%

October 2011

20111003|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20111004|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20111005|FFGO|310000|0|590000|O 52.5%
20111006|FFGO|600000|0|1600000|O 37.5%
20111010|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20111012|FFGO|2010000|0|2390000|O 84.1%
20111013|FFGO|2999999|0|2999999|O 100%
20111014|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20111018|FFGO|8000000|0|11000000|O 72.7%
20111019|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20111026|FFGO|2150000|0|2150000|O 100%


Month totals: 23,659,999/28329,999 83.5%

FFGO YEAR TO DATE

JAN 110,228,197/ 135,899,376
FEB 603,499,999/ 665,528,957
MAR 42,086,299/ 47,619,537
APR 55,046,743/ 57,719,305
MAY 71,734,677/ 77,653,022
JUN 49,116,056/ 49,366,056
JLY 189,497,794/ 191,797,794
AUG 168,375,995/ 188,509,493
SEP 20,197,000/ 20,996,700
OCT 23,659,999/28,329,999
Year to date totals

1,333,442.759/ 1,453,420,239 91.7% SHORT VOLUME for shares sold in 2011

regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20110324.txt
Total short volume since FINRA began publishing records in Nov. 2010:
1,774,250,838 short shares sold out of total volume of 2,018,993,454 or 87.9% of all shares sold were sold short!
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!




SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:34:44 AM

Re: AlanC post# 201721

Post # of 201733

AlanC, I am still waiting for one document to prove that the dividend process has in fact been canceled by the parties involved. We have discussed and have proven that revocation and/or dissolution does not cancel the dividend process for a Wyoming Incorporated business that has "earmarked" assets for distribution to shareholders. All business that needs to be wrapped up, is allowed to be wrapped up. No new business is allowed to occur under WY SOS Statutes. FFGO filed 8-K's with the SEC, clearly outlining the initiation of the distribution of assets to shareholder long before revocation and/or dissolution.

Wish I could have added more prior to revocation!

Those illegally depositing markers in my brokerage account could close them out for $4.60 per share. The will be no criminal charges if they meet those expectations.



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:52:57 AM

Re: indebt2 post# 201723

Post # of 201733

It has taken longer than most are comfortable with for the process to be completed. That is very understandable. But for $0.003449 PLUS in ROI, per share, 2 years is worth the wait, IMO.

Good Luck!



AlanC

Saturday, June 09, 2012 10:06:17 AM

Re: indebt2 post# 201723

Post # of 201733

I keep waiting for a huge roundup of the folks who have stolen trillion from tens of thousands of investors. To not recognize what is happening in our markets you would have to be deaf dumb and blind imho and yet we have not seen any short squeezes in years. In fact CEO's have been threatened by regulators that should they do anything that might cause one they would be prosecuted. Seems it is ok to manipulate the price downward but better not do anything to cause it go up when their is a huge short position. Hopefully we will se a market wide end to this nonsense and no SEC Chairman will have to ask "how much fraud are you willing to accept for liquidity?" I do think we are waiting for the day when we will see, read and hear about a roundup of many, they have tons of evidence.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



tatoo1   

Saturday, June 09, 2012 12:58:44 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 201724

Post # of 201733

I'm with you on that. And the .0034 is the minimum.



tatoo1   

Saturday, June 09, 2012 1:31:34 PM

Re: paunch13 post# 201704

Post # of 201733

Paunch, how about all the trillions of printed dollars in circulation. Remember we started this gold bull at $260 gold. And the government couldn't keep it there. And now all the Central Banks are buying. Sounds like an explosion coming real soon.




SevenTenEleven 

Friday, June 08, 2012 10:17:29 PM

Re: Texan77 post# 7685

Post # of 7695

Dividend Coming!

Shorts can't stop it!

Tic Toc



AlanC

Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:19:09 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7688

Post # of 7695

I agree! Management has not disappeared despite what those who own no shares say. Had they disappeared they would not have filed and that is an indisputable fact no matter how they try to spin it.
Dividends will hurt the shortman badly, fact! Go NMGL!!!



AlanC

Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:21:47 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7689

Post # of 7695

Exactly, a measly $2,350. to bring current. In the meantime the shortman is kept in the dark! Now you know why some folks check for filing updates daily, heck, they may even be checking hourly. lol
Go NMGL!!!



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:29:28 AM

Re: AlanC post# 7690

Post # of 7695

NMGL - Management is about to teach those short a very costly lesson. Since there are claims that no shorts exist, when the dividend is set, FINRA should have no complaints filed against the company to stop the process. Shareholders would not be filing a complaint against a dividend distribution, and neither should non existing shorts.

If shorts do file a complaint to block the dividend, and it is later discovered that there was a MASSIVE naked short interest position HIDDEN in brokerage accounts, then either those committing the crime pay what shareholders are asking for their shares, and/or all of those knowledgeable and responsible for the illegal acts go to prison for their treason and tax fraud crimes against American Investors.




SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 2:32:22 PM

Re: tatoo1 post# 201733

Post # of 201734

Those a tad short in the mining sector are about to face a grim reality. Those short FFGO, will wish they hadn't attacked this group of investors and businessmen.

Tic Toc



Dhoraji   

Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:13:02 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 201729

Post # of 201737

Yes, Sec and FINRA are in constant touch with them through various brokers.



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:14:38 PM

Re: Dhoraji post# 201735

Post # of 201737

Yes, Sec and FINRA are in constant touch with them through various brokers. - Dhoraji

Those brokers have no excuses! They, or their market makers, sold counterfeit inventory into the system, and failed to report it. They broke the law TWICE! Now they will be paying dearly for their crimes.

NITE acting in behalf of a majority of the bona fide market makers responsible for all of the illegal markers in our accounts has some explaining to do to the DOJ, FINRA, and the SEC.

The pleas for write downs continue!

Tic Toc



Texan77   

Saturday, June 09, 2012 4:52:37 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7692

Post # of 7697

The counterfeiting of money is one of the oldest crimes in history. At some periods in early history, it was even considered treasonous and was punishable by death.

my point nss is treason ffgo air shares are treason old laws are there


http://www.iaei.org/magazine/2004/05/counterfeiting-a-crime-that-affects-us-all/


Under the Homeland Security Department, counterfeiting has been an added responsibility and focus area.


Where does one go to file a complaint against government agencies for the crimes of racketeering, conspiracy to commit fraud, and aiding and abetting in the counterfeiting U.S. currency and the crimes are of such an extent as to constitute the high crime of treason against the country they exist to serve and the American people for whom they were supposed to work to protect? The agencies I'm complaining about are the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury.

http://www.channelingreality.com/Digital_Treason
/digital_counterfeiting.htm



Then WillyLoman posted the link to the Deep Capture website where a long expose written by Mark Mitchell is posted. The expose is a story about naked short selling, mob involvement in Wall Street and the theft of billions of dollars from shareholders by hedge fund operators using a strategy media "News" coverage, fraudulent stock analysis, naked short selling, SEC passive complicity and the destruction of hundreds if not thousands of companies.


http://www.channelingreality.com/Digital_Treason/digital_counterfeiting.htm



Texan77   

Saturday, June 09, 2012 5:09:46 PM

Re: None

Post # of 7697

more treason here http://www.deepcapture.com/the-story-of-deep-capture-by-mark-mitchell/

ffgo nss exaplained in simple detail here; http://www.deepcapture.com/category/4-the-crime-naked-shorts-other-insincere-ious/


ffgo and nmgl are in a war and they are the good guys HELLO!



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E


Stay one step ahead of the Hyenas!

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Cotton & Western Mining (CWRN)

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Post Date: 6/9/2012 2:22:57 PM in reply to 76447563 by Rocket Man
Board: Cotton & Western Mining Reason: Off-Topic
I guess guilty until proven innocent is the new legal system? Sounds to me as if folks with friends at the SEC may be feeling too confident about how this will play out. Tic Toc



janice shell 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:34:32 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 73440

Post # of 73636

No matter what you prove that the company has or is doing, the shorts will reset and refocus.

The playing field is slanted in their favor.

Hardly. You should try shorting sometime. Get some practical experience. Learn just how uneven the playing field is.

The DOJ is watching closely, IMO.

No doubt they're expecting Bob to surrender himself soon.



SevenTenEleven


Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:39:00 PM

Re: janice shell post# 73528

Post # of 73529

Hardly. You should try shorting sometime. Get some practical experience. Learn just how uneven the playing field is. - janice shell

The playing field is uneven. But there are some that attempt to level that playing field. In fact, not only level it, but also slant it in the short sellers' direction.

How short are those manipulative market makers in CWRN?

It is very likely one or more bona fide market makers are working through a surrogate market maker to game the FINRA reporting system.

Looking forward to what the DOJ has in store.



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:42:49 PM

Re: janice shell post# 73530

Post # of 73636

Not short enough to create significant fails to deliver. - janice shell

Internal clearing helps avoid those pesky little FTD's.




Rocket Man 

Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:36:43 AM

Re: janice shell post# 73584

Post # of 73636

To bad, fact are facts Janice shell.. CWRN is Shipping today.


Quote:
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janice shell

Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:32:50 AM

Re: Rocket Man post# 73582

Post # of 73586
On the contrary, that's been YOUR topic all evening.

I doubt that shipping from Ensenada "today" is a reality. Commercial ports don't work weekends. At least they didn't back when I spent six weeks on a freighter. You don't make port by late Friday afternoon, you wait till Monday morning. And even if you're already there, you don't load or off-load.
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~ 



ironman

Sunday, June 10, 2012 3:49:32 AM

Re: janice shell post# 73571

Post # of 73601

hey janice,could youcompare the severity of bob and cwrn's case to others. i know you followed the ihub case with ceo matt brown. how many years in prison did he get and did they shut down ihub?thanks ironman



Deleted? hmmmm....

Posted by: SevenTenEleven
In reply to: AlanC who wrote msg# 10021 Date:6/10/2012 9:14:39 AM
Post #10027 of 10035

With what is happening with CWRN, and continues to happen with FFGO & CMKX, it is ever more clear that there is a network of naked short sellers are preying on OTC companies. In these three examples, they are preying on mining companies with proven in-ground resources and revenue potential.

The information provided by FINRA regarding the possible "gaming" of the short interest and short volume reporting, by a market maker, or by a group of market makers, using loopholes in the system is very disturbing.

It has been pointed out ad nauseum that through non-tape trades, the short interest is covered immediately. What those who claim such nonsense are not telling investors, is that it is possible that the first leg of the trade may be closed out by the initial market maker trading on behalf of another market maker, or market makers. But it doesn't 100% mean that the second market maker(s) is(are) issuing real/actual shares to the first market maker. It is very possible, and in many cases likely, that the second market maker is issuing naked short sold shares to the first market maker, representing the second, or third, or forth, etc. Tape trade closed out, but non-tape trade side left wide open!

Why do these naked short sales not show up on the bimonthly short reports? The FTD reports?

The answer lies within the following:


Quote:
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8 Certain OTC transactions (e.g., riskless principal and agency transactions where one member is acting on behalf of another member) are reported to FINRA in related tape and non-tape reports. Tape reports are submitted to FINRA for public dissemination by the appropriate exclusive Securities Information Processor (“SIP”), while non-tape reports are submitted to FINRA, but are not submitted to the SIP for public dissemination. FINRA will not be including non-tape reports in either the daily short sale volume file or the monthly short sale transaction file. Accordingly, in those instances where the short sale indicator is only included in the related non-tape report, the short sale data published in the daily and monthly files may be under-inclusive. Similarly, the published figures will not include odd lots since these transactions are not disseminated to the consolidated tape.


11 While members generally are required to report trades in equity securities to FINRA within 90 seconds, a firm could improperly delay reporting of short sales until well after the close, which would result in the under-reporting of over-the-counter short sale volume. Delaying the reporting of trades for such a purpose would be considered a violation of the applicable trade reporting rules and Rule 2010 (Standards of Commercial Honor and Principles of Trade).
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http://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/finra/2009/34-60807.pdf


Also, why is so much effort spent attacking shareholders and officers of companies that are no bid or revoked?

The logical, and likely answer is:

To wear down the shareholders and to convince them to take 100% tax losses on their investment.

If this "IS" the short sellers' collaborated intention, then not only are RICO charges a likely possibility, but attempted tax fraud may be an angle the US Treasury and the IRS may be evaluating.

Also, someone from inside the SEC and/or FINRA is likely leaking information to the short sellers. We are also made aware that the shorts are constantly and continuously reporting information to the SEC and to FINRA. All one would need to do is track who is taking their calls and their emails, and determine if those same individuals have access to the material information filed by the SEC ahead of SEC action.

SOS of States of Incorporation are another topic all together. Prove to the shorts one thing or the other about them, and they will either ignore the statutes altogether, or try very hard to twist and turn the truth into a false reality.

My personal belief is the shorts are attempting to cause selloffs, and worst case scenarios 100% tax losses. Without being required to disclose their compensation, if they are in fact being compensated by others doing the shorting, is unethical. Those promoting a stock are required to disclose on iHub, yet those demoting a stock are not.

The argument, by the so called investor advocates, that shareholders do not deserve compensation, or justice, when wronged or scammed is also very telling. They clearly write from a script and stick closely to it. How does a shareholder argue with an idiot or with someone crafting what they write? How does a shareholder argue a position when the very medium used to allow for discussion is crafted to assist those, who are not required to disclose their positions or compensation, is structured and "stationed" to support their efforts?

Did Matt Brown take the fall for the "pump and dump" side of the equation to protect the much more lucrative "short and distort" side of the equation?

Tic Toc

Posted by: AlanC
In reply to: SevenTenEleven who wrote msg# 10027 (Removed) Date:6/10/2012 9:28:38 AM
Post #10029 of 10035

You would have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to know what is going on. We know and the regulators know and of course the criminals are running things. They make it both ways on the pump and dumps, one crew, and then even more on the short and distort, another crew.
If that crew is having problems and the potential for loss becomes significant, regulators on the payroll are called and asked to do something to bail them out. They have not failed often but I am aware of several situations now that are about to blow up in their faces and cost them bigtime. I was hopeful Matt Brown would have sung to save his own skin but no doubt he was threatened. Once they have you in their grasp they own you it seems. I know plenty of honest folks work for the alphabets, in fact I know some personally and I keep waiting for a roundup. Justice at times is incredibly slow in arriving.




5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E


Stay one step ahead of the Hyenas!

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Rocket Man

Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:18:50 PM

Re: janice shell post# 73685

Post # of 73698
If it wasn't that, then the pump or market manipulation obviously didn't work. The charts show the past history of the market sentiment and it clearly was not a pump. Go read a few months posts preceding the 03/08/2010 PR, interesting reading. Take notice of the talk about leaks on a pr in advance.. Notice that that there was a noticeable drop in postings by other wise very active admittedly non shareholder leading upto 30 days of the PR, (CWRN goes flat out dark for 10 days interestingly enough), then starts back a week after the PR.. There is a trend flat out, circumstantial maybe. I doubt it though.

There is that word again Always. It is not ever my only view that shorty is always the issue. Seems to be convenient to subtly insinuate I do with out saying it. Always casting the blame away from the possibility of shorting is convenient as well..

I am just suggesting that the data is there and it sure seems worthy of reading folks.. Do the DD people and you decide if it makes sense or not.. Take in the good throw out the bad, I always say.. That's fact..



Rocket Man

Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:23:02 PM

If it wasn't that, then the pump or market manipulation obviously didn't work. The charts show the past history of the market sentiment and it clearly was not a pump. Go read a few months posts preceding the 03/08/2010 PR, interesting reading. Take notice of the talk about leaks on a pr in advance.. Notice that that there was a noticeable drop in postings by other wise very active admittedly non shareholder leading upto 30 days of the PR, (CWRN goes flat out dark for 10 days interestingly enough), then starts back a week after the PR.. There is a trend flat out, circumstantial maybe. I doubt it though.

There is that word again Always. It is not ever my only view that shorty is always the issue. Seems to be convenient to subtly insinuate I do with out saying it. Always casting the blame away from the possibility of shorting is convenient as well..

I am just suggesting that the data is there and it sure seems worthy of reading folks.. Do the DD people and you decide if it makes sense or not.. Take in the good throw out the bad, I always say.. That's fact..


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janice shell

Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:47:57 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 73637

Post # of 73699

lol, are we back to Shorty now? Always a convenient excuse. But sadly, he has nothing to do with the SEC and DOJ cases... Janice Shell
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DevilDolphin

Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:26:25 PM

Re: janice shell post# 73700

Post # of 73706

My sentiments are the exact same on just about everything I have read of your post on CWRN's board, full of doubt and no confidence in your post. And actually I was stationed there for a few years. So wrong again!



sundown1

Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:40:34 PM

Re: None

Post # of 73737

Quote  Brad S

Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:06:33 AM

No, I think she's trying to say that you're a dumbass penny stock investor who'd do well to find someone with a working brain to invest your money for you.

I do not have PM so I can't answer you. May God protect you from others




MaxShockeR   

Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:52:19 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 73741

Post # of 73753

DISCOVER THIS - LOTS OF INFO AND VALIDITY THAT it EXIST & THE MINE IS ON OUR PLANET EARTH (updated)

CWRN "DD" Summary (Nov 2011)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69128558


>> ITMD's OLDER DD compilation (from Sept 2010 till March 2011)


===== MAP VIEWS ===== (for 3D need Google 3D addon for your browser to be able to view)

> Fly Over View of Baja 14 Mine ( CWRN/PanAm - Longitude & Latitude 31.31200,-116.325000 )
- 3D View * East to West
- 3D View * from the North

> "M A P S" & AERIAL MINE PICS of CWRN - PanAm mining concessions (but i guess these are only TONKA TOYS .. LMAO !!)

-PICS ALBUMS 2010-2011 Cotton & Western Mining
http://imgur.com/a/9LmfS

-PICS ALBUMS CWRN and Bao Steel 2012 at the Baja14 mine - Colosso Vein Ensenada (end of 2011 early 2012)
http://imgur.com/a/ROuCg

> Sept/Oct 2011 "VIDEO" Mining & Drilling Operations - http://videobam.com/dinTd


> Monthly "Pics ALBUM" from 9/2010 to 8/2011 w/member visits

* * 3 Members Visits CWRN in 2011 Pics & Vids * *

- Surogateson Visits CWRN/PanAm in DEC 2011
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69664030

- Johnynothumb & Temeku Visits CWRN/PanAm in March 2011
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=60933491

- Temeku Visits CWRN/PanAm in Nov 2010
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=57201838


===== CWRN & PanAM (US) & PanAM (Mex) =====

> SOS Corp COTTON & WESTERN MINING, INC (A/S 6 bil) (Public co)

> Signatory-Page-MOU-Feb-2010-Fremery-Mining-HK (PDF Doc)

> SOS Corp PAN AMERICAN MINERAL VENTURES, LLC (Private co)

> Panamerican Minerals Ventures S.A. de C.V "Mina Guadalupe" in Ensenada,under contract and held in trust for/with CWRN (private company created to comply with Mexican mining laws - Pres. Sharon Vazquez / Vice Pres. Robert L. Cotton )

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Sharon Vazquez -CEO Bob Cottons wife and Pres of sub to conform w Mex law which required co's to form a sub headed by a Mex national-Sharon is a Mex national and degree reportedly in international business from Madrid University and Univ of Mex
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> Mexican Geological Survey: CWRN Mines Listings

http://portaljsp.sgm.gob.mx/SINEM/f4MME/iMinMex0.htm (by tlc2)



> "RENTAS JC ENSENADA" Rental Equip Verification BC TEL:177-76-96 (Real company to rent Tools and Equipement)
http://www.investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=59916269

-Source http://directorios-mexico.blogspot.com/2010/09/maquinaria-para-construccion-ensenada.html


- 1st ever export permit issued in Mexico (by ITMD)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62358151

- EXPORT LICENCE for mexico (Digra Ive)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69800401

good research on how and where to get a Mexican license to export any Minerals including Iron Ore

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I would like to know the last regulations about export of Iron Ore from Mexico in order to understand if a mining company can meet requirements to ship this sort of minerals. It would be helpful if you can help me with dedicated link to such information.....
" " " Please contact to ProMexico office business in your country: www.promexico.gob.mx/en_mx/promexico/OREX this will assist in a personal way. You can consult: http://mim.promexico.gob.mx/wb/mim/inicio/_lang/en where to find information related to the subject.
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- RFC is VALID. Permit is VALID. Here's proof: (by tlc)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73337139

> They got their 2nd EXPORT PERMIT RENEWED FOR 2012 (by Rocketman)
Panamerican Minerals Ventures S.A. de C.V. Iron Ore Export Permit number: 0204C612000177 expires Dec 2012
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72826728


- Equipment Valuation Estimates - June 2012 (posted by Kubi)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76373569


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Estimates - $15 million dollars already from shipped ore, another $30 million minimum seperated and ready to ship at the port and at the mine, $8 million in equipment working hard 6 days a week, minimum 150 million tons of ore at $4 per ton in ground on Baha 14 = $600 million. Puts the value of Baha 14 at approx 650 million. This is a rough and crude current valuation of Baha 14 and I'm sure not even close to actual reserves on estimates. In all actuality CWRN is easily a BILLION dollar market cap when papers get pushed. post # 73654 (posted by DevilDolphion)
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- The possible JV with the largest west coast organic fertilizer distributor OMRI (from Feb 9 2012)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=76418608

- BaoSteel is the company apparently buying CWRN's iron products (by MicroCaps1)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76419216

> Fake Buyout Offer Info Scrutinized (posted by maxshocker)

- BloomBerg News March 2011 CWRN: Shareholders at Option on $0.15 Buyout Tender

> Reported Promo's Yet "NONE were COMPENSATED after Aug 2009" WOW!!! thanks for the CONFIRMATIONS (posted by LuckyMyDog)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=76459119 (is'nt that awesome ? ..LOL)


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My Opinion: So basically some Promo's in 2006 & "only 4 compensated promo's were done in 2009 then after that "NONE were compensated only MENTIONS about CWRN" which does'nt count as a Promo ... but Good Job in providing the FACTS
here's the link to provide Proof since it was'nt mentionned in the post above (enter CWRN by Symbol)
http://stockpromoters.com/View-Stock-Promotions-By-Symbol.aspx
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>> Jun 04 2012 SEC Charges Company Officers and Penny Stock Promoters in Kickback and Market Manipulation Schemes
Docket 1 (June 1 2012) PDF file https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/oabcaWc CASE #: 0:12-cr-60126-WPD
Docket 2 (June 4 2012) PDF file https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/xfcxdg CASE #: 0:12-cv-61072-WJZ

>> April 13 2012 @ 8:30AM Wide Area Deep Drilling Underway


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Cotton & Western Mining, Inc. CWRN , Panamerican Minerals Ventures, S.A. de C.V. Mexico, the operators of the "Guadalupe Iron Mineral Concession," drilled three deep conformation holes 300 meters apart in the center line of the 1,500 meter long Coloso Iron Mineral Vein, (one of four major iron mineral veins located on the concession); the purpose of those drill-holes was to explore the depth of the Coloso Vein, since the original drill program of 68 holes was shallow at 20-meters depth. Drill-hole 69 at 44-meters revealed continuous iron minerals mixed Magnetite and Hematite down to an elevation point of 81-meters above sea level, where the drilling was suspended without punching through the iron minerals as the iron content became lower and the mineral became solid magnetite. Drill-hole 70 at 84-meters depth on the lower elevation of the concession revealed the same mineral structure as drill-hole 69, hitting iron mineral at 4-meters down and continuous to 84-meters where the drilling was suspended at 2-meters above sea level; the third Drill-hole number 71 at 54-meters depth revealed continuous magnetite as well, the drilling was suspended pending simulated concentration testing of the lower grade materials to better understand the percentage of Fe304 (Magnetite Iron Oxide) uplift that could be anticipated if the materials were processed through a series of beneficiations. Results from those analytical studies indicated that the iron minerals can be processed to a Grade-A iron mineral status. Management has been discussing the feasibility of building a concentration plant on site with the corporation of Bao Steel Group of China, provided that there is enough magnetite mineral reserve to justify the investment; therefore, the company has begun a series of new and deeper drilled-holes on a wide-area bases to establish parameters for an accurate calculation of available mineral reserves. The company is continuously mining the near-surface iron minerals which require dry magnetic separation to achieve the clients specifications.

Other noteworthy news: the Company has contracted PowerScreen of California to build a heavy-duty 8ft x 30ft x 0.05mm cylindrical Trommel screening plant capable of screening out the small iron chips accumulated since the project went into production in November 2010. This equipment should be on-site and ready to begin processing a shipload of sinter fines within the next couple weeks. The balance of iron minerals less than 0.05mm in size shall be sold into the organic mineral fertilizer industry.

CWRN Current Share Structure: The Company has stated that it is not currently providing any Market Awareness nor is it involved with the market in any way. The share price of the Company's stock is solely dictated by the market further to that the share structure has not changed since year 2010, nor does the company intend to participate in any trade programs designed to offer company share
-A/S: 6 Bil -Current O/S: 4,361,635,980 Bil -Restricted: 2,056,610,879 Bil -Free Trading Float: 2,305,025,101 Bil
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- Port of Ensenada INFO: VIdeo & Maps
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76461476

- Yonghong Zhao is the president of Baosteel Brasil and Fan Jin (Jin Fan) is a trade resources manager with Baosteel.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=68048100

Cotton & Western Mining, Inc. Houston , Texas U.S.A.
Web: http://www.cottonwestern.com
Robert L. Cotton President & C.E.O.
Office Ph: + 1 713 482 7593
Fx to e-mail: + 1 702 387 2347
Pres. Sharon Vazquez / V.Pres & Dir Robert L. Cotton of Mining Operations PanAmerican Minerals Ventures, S.A. de C.V. Mexico
Home Ph: Ensenada Baja Mex + 52 646 173 3663
Ph: Mobile Mexico: + 52 (1) 646 121 0442 From outside Mex, inside Mex drop the 1
Ph: Mobile U.S.A. : + 1 832 692 3542
E-mail: bobcotton@cottonwestern.com OR cottonwestern@yahoo..com
Investor Relations emilycotton@cottonwestern.com


Just in case "Baja commercial plates do start with 2 letters" not British Columbia ..*sigh*

Proof/Facts/Proof/Facts/Proof/Facts/Proof ... BOOOIIINNNGGG !!!!


$CWRN is still an IRON PRODUCING MINE even the Satellites in our skies shows it



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MaxShockeR              

Saturday, June 09, 2012 10:16:50 PM
Re: None           
Post # 73473

In America, a person is presumed "innocent until proved guilty" not the other way around "guilty until proven innocent"

unless there is a new legal system ? also last i checked it was'nt an OFFSHORE court case ?

.......Quote:ceo is facing a 20 year federal prison term


oh wait it's true some have Court experience here ... *sigh*


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MaxShockeR              

Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:45:54 PM
Re: janice shell post# 73774    
Post # 73788

haha it's more like this .......

......Quote:Janice wrote: Let's see. What you're suggesting is that the DOJ took a position in CWRN in connection with the sting, and then--instead of preserving the evidence==went offshore to short against the long position it already had.
    Resulting in what? A flat position. Sheesh.

Let me Re-Twist that in a proper most logical way, What we can see by viewing a chart with TA & correlating them with Events & Short Raids.

.....Quote:My Version: Let's see. What you're suggesting is that the SHORTERS took a position in CWRN in connection with the sting or bad news or recent PR then used offshore brokerages to short against the long positions ? hell yeah who can't see that.. LMAO!!!!


since we all know SHORTING in the USA at these levels is expensive, i recall $2.50 a share, so using an "OFFSHORE broker" or "Prop Firm" would be most likely for a Shorter since they would'nt need to pay 2.50 a share, that beeing said it can be rewarding when it's well planned in correlation with events such as CWRN SEC Charges the just got slapped, it's very visible for those that know how to look at the charts and data available.

Another example would be News or Events like in the Forex or Futures Markets, an Earthquake in Europe would trigger a FALL in it's value vs the USD making traders Short or sell there positions with the sudden bad news and Panic, in reverse they would jump in EUR/CHF or Gold for safe haven when such a tragedy happens or with other important events such as the Unemployment Rates / Non-Farm Employment Change / Bernanke speeches / Retail Sales / Consumer Credit etc... i could go on and on what affects those markets and our value.

Basically when Good or Bad news hit it will affect the Price of anything thats tradable when it's affected Directly or indirectly within it's sector, as we know in pinkyland it's easier to MANIPULATE since the liquidity is little compared to stocks or Forex, just need to SPICE IT UP with some GANG to Hype to BUY or Scare to SELL (Short) it's NOT IMPOSSIBLE, in fact it's seen and done all the time.

That's my View of the Markets in General i could write a book but tried to keep it as simple as possible not to confuse anyone ... LOL !!!!!

$CWRN Keeping it real

......Quote:In America, a person is presumed "innocent until proved guilty" not the other way around "guilty until proven innocent"