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		<title>By: Fortune Magazine Stonewalls Exposure of Bethany McLean Perfidy &#124; Deep Capture</title>
		<link>http://www.deepcapture.com/spyro-contogouris-and-the-gentle-art-of-hedge-fund-persuasion/comment-page-1/#comment-138320</link>
		<dc:creator>Fortune Magazine Stonewalls Exposure of Bethany McLean Perfidy &#124; Deep Capture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the timing and content of her article. In addition, Bethany&#8217;s  reporting relied heavily upon Spyro Contogouris, a crook, now imprisoned, about whom she tap-danced and spun apologetics while dutifully [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the timing and content of her article. In addition, Bethany&#8217;s  reporting relied heavily upon Spyro Contogouris, a crook, now imprisoned, about whom she tap-danced and spun apologetics while dutifully [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A hedge fund suite for Richard Sauer &#124; Deep Capture</title>
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		<dc:creator>A hedge fund suite for Richard Sauer &#124; Deep Capture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to address only as &#8220;Rob&#8221;), pointing him to one of the anti-Fairfax sites set up by Spyro Contogouris, and attempting to spin Contogouris&#8217; then-recent arrest by on embezzlement charges as a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding all of the collapses with the brokerages, a number of banks are still extremely vulnerable to the credit crisis.

A list of banks and whether they are in trouble or not.  A rating of 50 or higher is bad and over 100, means they will probably fail. If you have money with one, you should move it.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/chris/banks/banks.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding all of the collapses with the brokerages, a number of banks are still extremely vulnerable to the credit crisis.</p>
<p>A list of banks and whether they are in trouble or not.  A rating of 50 or higher is bad and over 100, means they will probably fail. If you have money with one, you should move it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/chris/banks/banks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/chris/banks/banks.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: davidn</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the SEC, failures to Deliver jumped 69.5% from 2005 to 2006, then another 34.6% from 2006 to 2007.  

(a) Securities Failed to Deliver 44,726.5 0.8% 60,181.3 1.0 34.6

The current fails are at least $60.2 billion.  I believe this is based on NYSE fails (FOCUS reports), which excludes OTC and Pink stocks and any trading hidden outside of America or netted x-clearing between partners in crime.

http://www.sec.gov/about/secstats2008.pdf

Dr. DeCosta, what&#039;s even worse is they can net stock as a fungible mass using repo agreements.  I can owe you $1 million worth of Apple and you owe me $1 million worth of crapco and they net to zero.

Both the seller is long, because he agreed to repurchase (a call option) and the buyer is long, because he is the current owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the SEC, failures to Deliver jumped 69.5% from 2005 to 2006, then another 34.6% from 2006 to 2007.  </p>
<p>(a) Securities Failed to Deliver 44,726.5 0.8% 60,181.3 1.0 34.6</p>
<p>The current fails are at least $60.2 billion.  I believe this is based on NYSE fails (FOCUS reports), which excludes OTC and Pink stocks and any trading hidden outside of America or netted x-clearing between partners in crime.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sec.gov/about/secstats2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sec.gov/about/secstats2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>Dr. DeCosta, what&#8217;s even worse is they can net stock as a fungible mass using repo agreements.  I can owe you $1 million worth of Apple and you owe me $1 million worth of crapco and they net to zero.</p>
<p>Both the seller is long, because he agreed to repurchase (a call option) and the buyer is long, because he is the current owner.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Jim DeCosta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Jim DeCosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david n.-to compound your numbers you must realize that the NSCC failures to deliver that are &quot;pre-netted&quot; out of existence by the NSCC&#039;s CNS system aren&#039;t tallied nor are those held where the &quot;trade comparison&quot; was done in an ex-clearing format.  Here&#039;s a snip-it from a paper I did recently on NSCC &quot;pre-netting&quot; and how it obfuscates the severity of our abusive naked short selling issues.

I think it wise to digress for a moment and address some of the idiosyncrasies about “netting” as it relates to our DTCC-administered clearance and settlement system.  “Netting” is a wonderful streamliner in a business as overwhelming as processing the trades done on Wall Street is but it has some limitations.  If one is going to reap the rewards of the enhanced efficiencies and streamlining of processes in our clearance and settlement system associated with “netting” one has to realize that the system is based on the presumption that all DTCC “participants” and their hedge fund “guests” are going to “act in good faith” with their superior knowledge of, access to and visibility of the playing field on Wall Street.  If they don’t then all bets are off as to realizing those enhanced efficiencies without greatly diminishing the integrity of the overall clearance and settlement system.  This has to do with how the DTCC operates.  As we just reviewed the 4 ways to effect “trade comparison” are CNS, non-CNS, trade for trade and ex-clearing.

Let’s assume that on a certain day a buying market maker “B” has a client that purchases 100 shares of “Acme” from selling market maker “S” in the morning.  Let’s also assume that “S” receives a buy order in the afternoon from a client for 100 shares of Acme which it buys from market maker “B”.  Let’s further assume that both MMs naked short sold into the orders while theoretically acting as a bona fide MM and that both orders resulted in failures to deliver at the NSCC.  In the NSCC’s “Continuous net settlement” (CNS) system there will be no necessary net transfers of securities of Acme at the end of the day between the 2 MMs even though there are 2 FTDs generated which leads to the procreation of 200 readily sellable “securities entitlements”.  The share price of Acme Corporation will be pressured downwards by this extra “supply” of readily sellable “securities entitlements” because they are freely tradeable as if they were legitimate shares of Acme which they are not.  Note the “Disconnect” involving “netting” having nothing to do with the delivery status of that which is being “netted”.  They are two independent variables.  Note also that “good form delivery” is needed for a securities transaction to legally “settle” and that Section 17 A of the ’34 Exchange Act mandates that all securities transactions must “promptly settle”.

At the NSCC this trade involving 2 FTDs but no net transfer of securities necessary (via “balance orders” in non-CNS settlement) at the end of the day still got filed into the “trade settled” category from a CNS point of view even though it didn’t “settle”.  At the broker/dealer level things look wonderful in regards to this transaction but at the client level 2 investors did not get that which they purchased.  This is not to say that an FTD and an FTR (fail to receive) were not generated because they were but they’re held on the books of the 2 MMs and not at the NSCC in its CNS system.  A full 97% of transactions are “netted” via the NSCC.  

The NSCC wants nothing to do with the contents of the books of its “participants” and what they “imply” on their monthly brokerage statements that they are “holding long” for their clients.  Both “bilateral” and “multilateral” continuous netting can provide a wonderful cover up to fraudulent activity.  Any theoretically unconflicted SROs (like the DTCC) that use “netting” and especially “continuous netting” would obviously have meticulously designed controls in place to detect and address delivery failure related abuses (DFRAs).  The obvious control measure of choice would be to buy-in any delivery failures that last longer than the maximum age of a legitimate delivery failure yet this SRO, the NSCC, pleads “powerless” to effect buy-ins of their abusive “participants” that refuse to deliver that which they sell.  Why not?  Because it’s not in the financial interests of their abusive “participants” and the unregulated hedge funds that dispense $11.2 billion annually to the DTCC “participants” willing to be the most “accommodative” to the financial interests of the hedge fund manager.

Even though the DTCC acts as an SRO (“Self-Regulatory Organization”) mandated to create and enforce rules and regulations  associated with the “business conduct of its participants” they don’t particularly care if their “participants” that have 10 million shares of an issuer in its “participant’s share account” at the DTCC implies to its clients that it is holding 18 million shares “long” somewhere.  One might think that that would be a good “control” procedure for an SRO that administers a clearance and settlement system as easy to defraud as one based on “continuous net settlement” wherein the delivery status of shares sold is obfuscated.

In the DTCC-administered clearance and settlement system there are various vantage points that must be kept in mind.  The CNS status of what is owed between 2 “participants” at the end of a trading day is but one vantage point.  The securities contained in the “participants’ NSCC shares account” is another one as is the amount of paper-certificated shares held in the DTC subdivision’s vault system.  The positions held within the b/d away from the NSCC is another one as is what the b/d “implies” on its monthly brokerage statements as the “securities being held long” on behalf of the client are.

The reality is that a securities transaction at the NSCC that was “successfully netted” has nothing to do with “good form delivery” and therefore “settlement” of the trade having been achieved.  Imagine how misleading the level of the “FTDs” reported from the NSCC in regards to the Reg SHO “threshold lists” are when delivery failures aren’t necessarily “delivery failures”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david n.-to compound your numbers you must realize that the NSCC failures to deliver that are &#8220;pre-netted&#8221; out of existence by the NSCC&#8217;s CNS system aren&#8217;t tallied nor are those held where the &#8220;trade comparison&#8221; was done in an ex-clearing format.  Here&#8217;s a snip-it from a paper I did recently on NSCC &#8220;pre-netting&#8221; and how it obfuscates the severity of our abusive naked short selling issues.</p>
<p>I think it wise to digress for a moment and address some of the idiosyncrasies about “netting” as it relates to our DTCC-administered clearance and settlement system.  “Netting” is a wonderful streamliner in a business as overwhelming as processing the trades done on Wall Street is but it has some limitations.  If one is going to reap the rewards of the enhanced efficiencies and streamlining of processes in our clearance and settlement system associated with “netting” one has to realize that the system is based on the presumption that all DTCC “participants” and their hedge fund “guests” are going to “act in good faith” with their superior knowledge of, access to and visibility of the playing field on Wall Street.  If they don’t then all bets are off as to realizing those enhanced efficiencies without greatly diminishing the integrity of the overall clearance and settlement system.  This has to do with how the DTCC operates.  As we just reviewed the 4 ways to effect “trade comparison” are CNS, non-CNS, trade for trade and ex-clearing.</p>
<p>Let’s assume that on a certain day a buying market maker “B” has a client that purchases 100 shares of “Acme” from selling market maker “S” in the morning.  Let’s also assume that “S” receives a buy order in the afternoon from a client for 100 shares of Acme which it buys from market maker “B”.  Let’s further assume that both MMs naked short sold into the orders while theoretically acting as a bona fide MM and that both orders resulted in failures to deliver at the NSCC.  In the NSCC’s “Continuous net settlement” (CNS) system there will be no necessary net transfers of securities of Acme at the end of the day between the 2 MMs even though there are 2 FTDs generated which leads to the procreation of 200 readily sellable “securities entitlements”.  The share price of Acme Corporation will be pressured downwards by this extra “supply” of readily sellable “securities entitlements” because they are freely tradeable as if they were legitimate shares of Acme which they are not.  Note the “Disconnect” involving “netting” having nothing to do with the delivery status of that which is being “netted”.  They are two independent variables.  Note also that “good form delivery” is needed for a securities transaction to legally “settle” and that Section 17 A of the ’34 Exchange Act mandates that all securities transactions must “promptly settle”.</p>
<p>At the NSCC this trade involving 2 FTDs but no net transfer of securities necessary (via “balance orders” in non-CNS settlement) at the end of the day still got filed into the “trade settled” category from a CNS point of view even though it didn’t “settle”.  At the broker/dealer level things look wonderful in regards to this transaction but at the client level 2 investors did not get that which they purchased.  This is not to say that an FTD and an FTR (fail to receive) were not generated because they were but they’re held on the books of the 2 MMs and not at the NSCC in its CNS system.  A full 97% of transactions are “netted” via the NSCC.  </p>
<p>The NSCC wants nothing to do with the contents of the books of its “participants” and what they “imply” on their monthly brokerage statements that they are “holding long” for their clients.  Both “bilateral” and “multilateral” continuous netting can provide a wonderful cover up to fraudulent activity.  Any theoretically unconflicted SROs (like the DTCC) that use “netting” and especially “continuous netting” would obviously have meticulously designed controls in place to detect and address delivery failure related abuses (DFRAs).  The obvious control measure of choice would be to buy-in any delivery failures that last longer than the maximum age of a legitimate delivery failure yet this SRO, the NSCC, pleads “powerless” to effect buy-ins of their abusive “participants” that refuse to deliver that which they sell.  Why not?  Because it’s not in the financial interests of their abusive “participants” and the unregulated hedge funds that dispense $11.2 billion annually to the DTCC “participants” willing to be the most “accommodative” to the financial interests of the hedge fund manager.</p>
<p>Even though the DTCC acts as an SRO (“Self-Regulatory Organization”) mandated to create and enforce rules and regulations  associated with the “business conduct of its participants” they don’t particularly care if their “participants” that have 10 million shares of an issuer in its “participant’s share account” at the DTCC implies to its clients that it is holding 18 million shares “long” somewhere.  One might think that that would be a good “control” procedure for an SRO that administers a clearance and settlement system as easy to defraud as one based on “continuous net settlement” wherein the delivery status of shares sold is obfuscated.</p>
<p>In the DTCC-administered clearance and settlement system there are various vantage points that must be kept in mind.  The CNS status of what is owed between 2 “participants” at the end of a trading day is but one vantage point.  The securities contained in the “participants’ NSCC shares account” is another one as is the amount of paper-certificated shares held in the DTC subdivision’s vault system.  The positions held within the b/d away from the NSCC is another one as is what the b/d “implies” on its monthly brokerage statements as the “securities being held long” on behalf of the client are.</p>
<p>The reality is that a securities transaction at the NSCC that was “successfully netted” has nothing to do with “good form delivery” and therefore “settlement” of the trade having been achieved.  Imagine how misleading the level of the “FTDs” reported from the NSCC in regards to the Reg SHO “threshold lists” are when delivery failures aren’t necessarily “delivery failures”.</p>
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		<title>By: davidn</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transcript of SHO rule making, Sept. 15 2006

http://www.sec.gov/about/economic/shopilottrans091506.pdf

The word &quot;grandfather&quot; didn&#039;t come up once, nor did the phrase &quot;comment letter&quot;.  100% of the people speaking supported naked shorting.

&quot;But it seems to me that the optimal thing for the market maker to do might be instead of holding a large inventory when somebody comes with a buy to sell to them, you know, if somebody comes to the buy, just short it, just borrow it. It lowers your inventory cost.&quot;

(SEC study)
&quot;First of all, it was rather surprising to see how large a percentage of sell orders are short sell orders. As you can see there&#039;s roughly 23 percent of all sell orders are short sell orders, a surprisingly large percentage.&quot;

&quot;We also found out that short sell orders were much more likely to be canceled or to simply go unfilled and expire than regular sell orders.  The reason for that is because of the uptick rule.&quot;

- there are usually more buys than sells when you look at market depth. Unless the price rises unnaturally, the only way to match it is to increase ask depth by 30% (naked shorting)

- allowing prices to rise by reducing shorting will lower average investment returns

- a higher price encourages companies to raise money and then waste it

- &quot;If you look at the history of enforcement actions at the SEC, the number of actions to deal with pump and dumps vastly, vastly exceeds the number associated with bear raids. Bear raids are very uncommon.&quot;

- shorting protects investors from paying too much &quot;How many traders complained about being sold very high priced stocks in the late 1990s, and then after that lost a lot of money? I think huge numbers of small investors felt in retrospect like they got ripped off.&quot;

- &quot;So I agree with Larry that the short sellers are the big ally of the SEC in its efforts to protect small investors from schemes that would, essentially, be manipulative.&quot;

- &quot;the locate rule is an effort to throw a little bit of sand into the gears that would otherwise smoothly allow a market for borrowing and lending securities to operate.&quot;

- And one of the proposals that I understand is up for discussion is whether buy-ins should be more strictly enforced to eliminate short positions on which traders have failed.
If you more aggressively force traders to liquidate their short positions, you make it easier for someone to corner the market and squeeze the shorts in the stock market. This would have the bad effect of making the schemes that Larry talked about, the pump and dump schemes, easier to execute and would, I think, therefore, be kind of a bad idea.  So rather than have a forced buy-in for short positions that have been failed on for a long period of time I would recommend as an alternative just a series of escalating modest penalties&quot;

- the cost of naked shorting falls to zero when interest rates are at zero as the only cost is borrowing to cover the margin on the fail

- &quot;Short sellers are very important parts of our capital markets. Short sellers get pessimistic information into prices. We don&#039;t want just the optimists to have a vote. We want to have pessimists also to express their view.&quot;

- &quot;I would characterize short sellers as an oppressed minority.&quot;

- &quot;why we were worried about downward price manipulation but were not worried about upward price manipulation. So it seems an odd, sort of, asymmetrical rule.&quot;

- &quot;I think banning trade, which is, essentially, what the uptick rule does, is rarely a good idea&quot;

- &quot;I was getting progressively more sad and more sad going through this discussion here. And I kept thinking poor uptick rule. I mean, it has been with us for 70 years now. Anybody to stand up in defense of the uptick rule?  Well, it&#039;s not going to be me. Of course, the other challenge I have I&#039;m the last here, and so how can I make it different and interesting.&quot;

- &quot;short sellers are already handicapped, a lot of restrictions.&quot;

- the retail investor &quot;facing the lions and debating whether the ethics of eating someone that&#039;s there to be eaten.&quot;

- &quot;the smallest stocks right now aren&#039;t subject to the tick test, and you don&#039;t see a lot of people clamoring for it. Of course, those are the ones that are most subject to the pump and dump.&quot;

- the commissioners get spam emails telling them to buy stock, but they can&#039;t go after the spammers at they have a right to express their opinion from eastern Europe.  Naked shorting needs to be allowed to protect unsophisticated investors from paying too much for these scams.

- retail investors are often confused

- &quot;But if they were going to be threatened with a buy-in on their 100 percent of the flow, that would eliminate their ability to protect the small investors from exorbitant prices.&quot;

- &quot;What I&#039;m worried about is, you know, you publish stock ABC. It has a lot of short interest, and the CEO of stock ABC, who is a evil pump and dump guy, sees that and uses that information to somehow manipulate the securities lending market.&quot;

- &quot;Ken Lay&#039;s defense was that Enron was a victim of a bear raid. I didn&#039;t buy it. The jury didn&#039;t buy it. I don&#039;t know if anybody bought it. But the bear raid is the story that a CEO tells when the market is voting against him.&quot;

- &quot;I think bear raids probably occur hardly ever&quot;

- &quot;who is going to complain about being able to buy depressed stocks at really cheap prices and earning a great return on that?&quot;

- &quot;So after September 11th there was a massive manhunt for the alleged -- Osama bin Laden was allegedly short selling airline stocks on September 10th. So there was quite a search for nefarious short sellers after that,&quot;

- &quot;The example of Osama bin Laden is insider trading, not a bear raid. Let&#039;s make sure we have the distinction right.&quot;

- &quot;Maybe we should have transparency where everybody&#039;s Social Security number is posted on the internet. That would be a form of transparency most of us probably wouldn&#039;t like.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transcript of SHO rule making, Sept. 15 2006</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sec.gov/about/economic/shopilottrans091506.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sec.gov/about/economic/shopilottrans091506.pdf</a></p>
<p>The word &#8220;grandfather&#8221; didn&#8217;t come up once, nor did the phrase &#8220;comment letter&#8221;.  100% of the people speaking supported naked shorting.</p>
<p>&#8220;But it seems to me that the optimal thing for the market maker to do might be instead of holding a large inventory when somebody comes with a buy to sell to them, you know, if somebody comes to the buy, just short it, just borrow it. It lowers your inventory cost.&#8221;</p>
<p>(SEC study)<br />
&#8220;First of all, it was rather surprising to see how large a percentage of sell orders are short sell orders. As you can see there&#8217;s roughly 23 percent of all sell orders are short sell orders, a surprisingly large percentage.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We also found out that short sell orders were much more likely to be canceled or to simply go unfilled and expire than regular sell orders.  The reason for that is because of the uptick rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>- there are usually more buys than sells when you look at market depth. Unless the price rises unnaturally, the only way to match it is to increase ask depth by 30% (naked shorting)</p>
<p>- allowing prices to rise by reducing shorting will lower average investment returns</p>
<p>- a higher price encourages companies to raise money and then waste it</p>
<p>- &#8220;If you look at the history of enforcement actions at the SEC, the number of actions to deal with pump and dumps vastly, vastly exceeds the number associated with bear raids. Bear raids are very uncommon.&#8221;</p>
<p>- shorting protects investors from paying too much &#8220;How many traders complained about being sold very high priced stocks in the late 1990s, and then after that lost a lot of money? I think huge numbers of small investors felt in retrospect like they got ripped off.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;So I agree with Larry that the short sellers are the big ally of the SEC in its efforts to protect small investors from schemes that would, essentially, be manipulative.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;the locate rule is an effort to throw a little bit of sand into the gears that would otherwise smoothly allow a market for borrowing and lending securities to operate.&#8221;</p>
<p>- And one of the proposals that I understand is up for discussion is whether buy-ins should be more strictly enforced to eliminate short positions on which traders have failed.<br />
If you more aggressively force traders to liquidate their short positions, you make it easier for someone to corner the market and squeeze the shorts in the stock market. This would have the bad effect of making the schemes that Larry talked about, the pump and dump schemes, easier to execute and would, I think, therefore, be kind of a bad idea.  So rather than have a forced buy-in for short positions that have been failed on for a long period of time I would recommend as an alternative just a series of escalating modest penalties&#8221;</p>
<p>- the cost of naked shorting falls to zero when interest rates are at zero as the only cost is borrowing to cover the margin on the fail</p>
<p>- &#8220;Short sellers are very important parts of our capital markets. Short sellers get pessimistic information into prices. We don&#8217;t want just the optimists to have a vote. We want to have pessimists also to express their view.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;I would characterize short sellers as an oppressed minority.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;why we were worried about downward price manipulation but were not worried about upward price manipulation. So it seems an odd, sort of, asymmetrical rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;I think banning trade, which is, essentially, what the uptick rule does, is rarely a good idea&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;I was getting progressively more sad and more sad going through this discussion here. And I kept thinking poor uptick rule. I mean, it has been with us for 70 years now. Anybody to stand up in defense of the uptick rule?  Well, it&#8217;s not going to be me. Of course, the other challenge I have I&#8217;m the last here, and so how can I make it different and interesting.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;short sellers are already handicapped, a lot of restrictions.&#8221;</p>
<p>- the retail investor &#8220;facing the lions and debating whether the ethics of eating someone that&#8217;s there to be eaten.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;the smallest stocks right now aren&#8217;t subject to the tick test, and you don&#8217;t see a lot of people clamoring for it. Of course, those are the ones that are most subject to the pump and dump.&#8221;</p>
<p>- the commissioners get spam emails telling them to buy stock, but they can&#8217;t go after the spammers at they have a right to express their opinion from eastern Europe.  Naked shorting needs to be allowed to protect unsophisticated investors from paying too much for these scams.</p>
<p>- retail investors are often confused</p>
<p>- &#8220;But if they were going to be threatened with a buy-in on their 100 percent of the flow, that would eliminate their ability to protect the small investors from exorbitant prices.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;What I&#8217;m worried about is, you know, you publish stock ABC. It has a lot of short interest, and the CEO of stock ABC, who is a evil pump and dump guy, sees that and uses that information to somehow manipulate the securities lending market.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;Ken Lay&#8217;s defense was that Enron was a victim of a bear raid. I didn&#8217;t buy it. The jury didn&#8217;t buy it. I don&#8217;t know if anybody bought it. But the bear raid is the story that a CEO tells when the market is voting against him.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;I think bear raids probably occur hardly ever&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;who is going to complain about being able to buy depressed stocks at really cheap prices and earning a great return on that?&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;So after September 11th there was a massive manhunt for the alleged &#8212; Osama bin Laden was allegedly short selling airline stocks on September 10th. So there was quite a search for nefarious short sellers after that,&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;The example of Osama bin Laden is insider trading, not a bear raid. Let&#8217;s make sure we have the distinction right.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;Maybe we should have transparency where everybody&#8217;s Social Security number is posted on the internet. That would be a form of transparency most of us probably wouldn&#8217;t like.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: davidn</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transcript of DTCC and other industry arguments against letting beneficial shareholders vote their shares.

http://www.sec.gov/news/openmeetings/2007/openmtg_trans052407.pdf

Interesting, Larry called Cede &amp; Co. &quot;CDINCO&quot; and said the DTC was formed in 1973 and NSCC in 1976 in response to a paperwork crisis in the 1960&#039;s and relying on congressional securities act ammendments from 1975.  He compares the DTC to a commercial bank and compares the fractional backing of entitlements with real shares to the fractional backing of bank deposits with real money.  In other words, he thinks that the DTC has the right to fractionally back beneficial ownership even though they have a trust agreement to act as a custodian.

Here&#039;s what he thinks of what brokerages should do with your money:

&quot;That obviously adds tremendous liquidity to the 8 program. You don&#039;t have brokers and banks tying up their 9 capital into trades on a trade for trade basis. They can use 10 that capital to invest in other things&quot;

Chevron suggested that the SEC was set up to protect retail brokerage rights and the whole OBO concept is ridiculous.  Why wouldn&#039;t you register the names of the actual beneficial owners of the property?

Then the brokerage comments.  They send out the number of proxy cards that equal the number of entitlement holders, then hope some of them don&#039;t return the cards.  The ones that return the cards are allocated available votes, pro rata.  In other words, if 200% of the cards come back, you get .5 of a vote instead of the full vote a certificate holder would get.  They talk about &quot;pre-balancing&quot; and &quot;post-balancing&quot;.

The next quote should make you mad:

&quot;That obviously adds tremendous liquidity to the 8 program. You don&#039;t have brokers and banks tying up their 9 capital into trades on a trade for trade basis. They can use 10 that capital to invest in other things&quot;

On average, 31 out of 288 clearing brokerages tried to vote more shares than they actually had.  I would suggest the other ones were smart enough not to try to vote the extra entitlements.  SIFMA set up a prevention system to make sure clearing brokerages tuned down their voting to match what they actually had at the DTC.

- Other markets register beneficial owners names.

- institutions can borrow stock to vote it, without short selling it.  (Keep the borrowed stock long in their account).  Osama Bin Laden could borrow stock and be the largest controlling voter, without actually owning anything.

- professor &quot;OTC derivatives revolution in particular has undermined the integrity of and 
the transparency of this finely wrought system.&quot;

- &quot;our goal is not to have the perfect coupling of shares and economic interests...interfering with the share lending market, which is essential to short sellers and the proper pricing of shares.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transcript of DTCC and other industry arguments against letting beneficial shareholders vote their shares.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sec.gov/news/openmeetings/2007/openmtg_trans052407.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sec.gov/news/openmeetings/2007/openmtg_trans052407.pdf</a></p>
<p>Interesting, Larry called Cede &amp; Co. &#8220;CDINCO&#8221; and said the DTC was formed in 1973 and NSCC in 1976 in response to a paperwork crisis in the 1960&#8242;s and relying on congressional securities act ammendments from 1975.  He compares the DTC to a commercial bank and compares the fractional backing of entitlements with real shares to the fractional backing of bank deposits with real money.  In other words, he thinks that the DTC has the right to fractionally back beneficial ownership even though they have a trust agreement to act as a custodian.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what he thinks of what brokerages should do with your money:</p>
<p>&#8220;That obviously adds tremendous liquidity to the 8 program. You don&#8217;t have brokers and banks tying up their 9 capital into trades on a trade for trade basis. They can use 10 that capital to invest in other things&#8221;</p>
<p>Chevron suggested that the SEC was set up to protect retail brokerage rights and the whole OBO concept is ridiculous.  Why wouldn&#8217;t you register the names of the actual beneficial owners of the property?</p>
<p>Then the brokerage comments.  They send out the number of proxy cards that equal the number of entitlement holders, then hope some of them don&#8217;t return the cards.  The ones that return the cards are allocated available votes, pro rata.  In other words, if 200% of the cards come back, you get .5 of a vote instead of the full vote a certificate holder would get.  They talk about &#8220;pre-balancing&#8221; and &#8220;post-balancing&#8221;.</p>
<p>The next quote should make you mad:</p>
<p>&#8220;That obviously adds tremendous liquidity to the 8 program. You don&#8217;t have brokers and banks tying up their 9 capital into trades on a trade for trade basis. They can use 10 that capital to invest in other things&#8221;</p>
<p>On average, 31 out of 288 clearing brokerages tried to vote more shares than they actually had.  I would suggest the other ones were smart enough not to try to vote the extra entitlements.  SIFMA set up a prevention system to make sure clearing brokerages tuned down their voting to match what they actually had at the DTC.</p>
<p>- Other markets register beneficial owners names.</p>
<p>- institutions can borrow stock to vote it, without short selling it.  (Keep the borrowed stock long in their account).  Osama Bin Laden could borrow stock and be the largest controlling voter, without actually owning anything.</p>
<p>- professor &#8220;OTC derivatives revolution in particular has undermined the integrity of and<br />
the transparency of this finely wrought system.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;our goal is not to have the perfect coupling of shares and economic interests&#8230;interfering with the share lending market, which is essential to short sellers and the proper pricing of shares.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: clearthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>clearthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm couild it be that the SEC is being less than &quot;honest&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm couild it be that the SEC is being less than &#8220;honest&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: davidn</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally found the 2007 data in a separate file.

http://www.sec.gov/about/secstats2007.pdf

According to the SEC, fails to deliver increased 69.5% from 26.4 billion in 2005 to 44 billion in 2006.  How do I reconcile this with the BS they publish on their SHO page?

Note that this is cash value after the stocks have been punished into oblivion (note everything tanks towards the Dec. 31 disclosure date) and excludes all fails hidden in Canada and Germany and assumes the thieves are providing the SEC with accurate records even though it appears no one ever audits their FOCUS reports.

To put the value of fails in perspective, the industry as a whole only had $81.4 billion in cash in 2006.

All the trading for the entire year of 2006 was $48.2 trillion or approximately $192.8 billion per day.  That means the fails we know about equal a little less than 1/3 of the entire value of a typical trading day. 

They claim that complaints against short selling fell from 631 in 2006 to 604 in 2007 and that it is only the 8th most common complaint (implying that since reg. SHO, shorting complaints have slowed down).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally found the 2007 data in a separate file.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sec.gov/about/secstats2007.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sec.gov/about/secstats2007.pdf</a></p>
<p>According to the SEC, fails to deliver increased 69.5% from 26.4 billion in 2005 to 44 billion in 2006.  How do I reconcile this with the BS they publish on their SHO page?</p>
<p>Note that this is cash value after the stocks have been punished into oblivion (note everything tanks towards the Dec. 31 disclosure date) and excludes all fails hidden in Canada and Germany and assumes the thieves are providing the SEC with accurate records even though it appears no one ever audits their FOCUS reports.</p>
<p>To put the value of fails in perspective, the industry as a whole only had $81.4 billion in cash in 2006.</p>
<p>All the trading for the entire year of 2006 was $48.2 trillion or approximately $192.8 billion per day.  That means the fails we know about equal a little less than 1/3 of the entire value of a typical trading day. </p>
<p>They claim that complaints against short selling fell from 631 in 2006 to 604 in 2007 and that it is only the 8th most common complaint (implying that since reg. SHO, shorting complaints have slowed down).</p>
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		<title>By: davidn</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I reconcile the SEC&#039;s claim that fails to deliver and receive combined total only $6 billion, when in 2001 they admitted it was already at $94 billion and climbing rapidly?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.404.gov%2Fabout%2Fannual_report

1995 SEC Annual Report

Securities Failed to Deliver increased 24.7% from 1993 to 1994, totaling $22 billion.  (pg. 147).  Revenues from trading against customers went from $15.7 billion in 1990 to $20.2 billion in 1994.  Clearing firms made 82% of the securities industries revenue even though they only represent less than 10% of brokerages (pg. 144).
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The 2007 annual report no longer provides this detail and their only mention of shorting is to say they did a pilot and found they could remove the bid price test without any threat to the capital markets (ya right).  They commend Annette Nazareth, who is responsible, personally for regulating shorting and clearing brokerages.
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According to the 2002 annual report, pg 172, fails to deliver went from $19.2 billion (.7% of assets) in 2000 to $94 billion (3% of assets) in 2001.

http://www.sec.gov/pdf/annrep02/ar02full.pdf

I can&#039;t help but think that the SEC&#039;s decision to stop including this data and the sudden jump in fails coincides nicely with the dot com crash which made someone trillions, the NYSE divestment of liability in their Euronext IPO and the formation of the DTCC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I reconcile the SEC&#8217;s claim that fails to deliver and receive combined total only $6 billion, when in 2001 they admitted it was already at $94 billion and climbing rapidly?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.404.gov%2Fabout%2Fannual_report" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.404.gov%2Fabout%2Fannual_report</a></p>
<p>1995 SEC Annual Report</p>
<p>Securities Failed to Deliver increased 24.7% from 1993 to 1994, totaling $22 billion.  (pg. 147).  Revenues from trading against customers went from $15.7 billion in 1990 to $20.2 billion in 1994.  Clearing firms made 82% of the securities industries revenue even though they only represent less than 10% of brokerages (pg. 144).<br />
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<p>The 2007 annual report no longer provides this detail and their only mention of shorting is to say they did a pilot and found they could remove the bid price test without any threat to the capital markets (ya right).  They commend Annette Nazareth, who is responsible, personally for regulating shorting and clearing brokerages.<br />
__</p>
<p>According to the 2002 annual report, pg 172, fails to deliver went from $19.2 billion (.7% of assets) in 2000 to $94 billion (3% of assets) in 2001.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sec.gov/pdf/annrep02/ar02full.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sec.gov/pdf/annrep02/ar02full.pdf</a></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that the SEC&#8217;s decision to stop including this data and the sudden jump in fails coincides nicely with the dot com crash which made someone trillions, the NYSE divestment of liability in their Euronext IPO and the formation of the DTCC.</p>
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		<title>By: lenofus</title>
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		<dc:creator>lenofus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do have to say, someone impersonating me means I&#039;m putting a dent in their diseased minds.  Here&#039; s the comment, #22, which will be removed soon.  Thank you, whomever, for validating my mission.

#  lenofus Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 6:45 am

That’s insane. I have re-read this blog and now think you all need to spend more time outdoors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do have to say, someone impersonating me means I&#8217;m putting a dent in their diseased minds.  Here&#8217; s the comment, #22, which will be removed soon.  Thank you, whomever, for validating my mission.</p>
<p>#  lenofus Says:<br />
December 28th, 2008 at 6:45 am</p>
<p>That’s insane. I have re-read this blog and now think you all need to spend more time outdoors.</p>
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		<title>By: Patchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judd, was looking at some recent data on Morgan Stanley that looks interesting.  considering that this is &#039;net&#039; settlement and all it would certainly appear that a bear raid was on WRT Morgan Stanley despite the comment memo&#039;s by the industry who beg to differ.

http://investigatethesec.com/drupal-5.5/?q=node/530</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judd, was looking at some recent data on Morgan Stanley that looks interesting.  considering that this is &#8216;net&#8217; settlement and all it would certainly appear that a bear raid was on WRT Morgan Stanley despite the comment memo&#8217;s by the industry who beg to differ.</p>
<p><a href="http://investigatethesec.com/drupal-5.5/?q=node/530" rel="nofollow">http://investigatethesec.com/drupal-5.5/?q=node/530</a></p>
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		<title>By: jabber</title>
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		<dc:creator>jabber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re:mhelburn

&quot;I stopped by Wiki and noted that overall, Patrick’s bio has been cleaned up and happened onto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercollegiate_Studies_Institute This is an organization that works to stifle discourse as an agenda.&quot;

What&#039;s the point of that lie regarding ISI?</description>
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<p>&#8220;I stopped by Wiki and noted that overall, Patrick’s bio has been cleaned up and happened onto <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercollegiate_Studies_Institute" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercollegiate_Studies_Institute</a> This is an organization that works to stifle discourse as an agenda.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of that lie regarding ISI?</p>
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		<title>By: mhelburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhelburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Feb 25th, 2006, Joe Nocera wrote in &quot;Overstock&#039;s Campaign of Menace&quot;, referring to Rocker/Copper River, &quot;Now, however, the firm has instituted a policy of not talking to the news media.&quot;  http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C00E7D91F3EF936A15751C0A9609C8B63&amp;sec=&amp;spon=&amp;pagewanted=2

This apparently this policy didn&#039;t apply to e-mails because Cohodes corresponded with Bethany McLean on Dec. 7, 2006.  .

Fairfax initiated their lawsuit on July 26, 2006 and even that didn&#039;t stop communication, so it shows that neither public comments or lawsuits has a &quot;chilling&quot; effect Cox  was afraid of if subpoenas were issued by the SEC as the parties had to know that subpoenas would be issued for discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Feb 25th, 2006, Joe Nocera wrote in &#8220;Overstock&#8217;s Campaign of Menace&#8221;, referring to Rocker/Copper River, &#8220;Now, however, the firm has instituted a policy of not talking to the news media.&#8221;  <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C00E7D91F3EF936A15751C0A9609C8B63&#038;sec=&#038;spon=&#038;pagewanted=2" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C00E7D91F3EF936A15751C0A9609C8B63&#038;sec=&#038;spon=&#038;pagewanted=2</a></p>
<p>This apparently this policy didn&#8217;t apply to e-mails because Cohodes corresponded with Bethany McLean on Dec. 7, 2006.  .</p>
<p>Fairfax initiated their lawsuit on July 26, 2006 and even that didn&#8217;t stop communication, so it shows that neither public comments or lawsuits has a &#8220;chilling&#8221; effect Cox  was afraid of if subpoenas were issued by the SEC as the parties had to know that subpoenas would be issued for discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick 

Madoff : chock full of NSS?  Its a racing certainty.

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<p>Madoff : chock full of NSS?  Its a racing certainty.</p>
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