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I, and many others I know experienced a similar thing at HSM (hot stock market). Posting evidence of crooks that were known to post on the forum resulted in a membership ban.

Last edited by BillZ (2009-06-20 08:56:13)

What Raging Bull message board is closing in on ONE MILLION posts, after it's former message board of over ONE MILLION posts was shut down by Raging Bull?

These millions of messages are regarding a subpenny pinkie which was revoked several years ago.  So, why is it one of the most active stock discussion issues?  Actually, there's good reason for shareholders to be gathering there to find out about it, because there's something like 50,000 of them that took there certificates and held onto them through revocation.  Think about it.  This was an unprecedented move.  They were that convinced that they had been naked shorted and their holding onto those certificates through revocation would have to help prove it.  But, since that time, the only verifiable information seems to indicate that most were victims of a pump and dump scam, although other than some unenforced civil judgments there's little true legal evidence in that regard either.  There have been no arrest warrants issued for the perpetrators, if indeed, that's what they were.

If there were only sobbing shareholders gathered there to comfort each other over possibly being scammed, I would understand.  However, you merely need to visit this board to see that those shareholders are being viciously attacked by a virtual army of foul-mouthed, venom-spewers claiming to have never had a financial interest in the issue.

What the RagingBull.com board I'm talking about?  It's CMKI.  That board shows as Cmark International or something like that.  The board was "hijacked" because it was close to the stock symbol CMKX, and Raging Bull shut that board of more than one million posts down.  Why?  Anyway, just visit that board and take a gander at the typical posts.  You'll find people like reality.bytes, factanonverba & greedy_malone (same guy),  JUMBOJET,  JENYLI (same guy), et al.

It's a very active board if you want to see some people pounding negativity over a long-revoked subpenny pinkie that obviously has more going on behind the curtains that the bashers want you to think.  Otherwise, you wouldn't have had people like Robert Maheu, D. Roger Glenn, Donald Stocklein, et al., involved.  If it were the huge scam they appear to make it appear back in 2004 or 2005, why is it now 2009 with NO ARREST WARRANTS?  Why did the former CEO, Urban Casavant, thumb his nose at his nose at the court judgment with impunity?  Why did the judge just say, "Well, OK, then?"  There's a bunch of unanswered questions.

But, the main unanswered question is, "Why is there an army of people claiming to be financially disinterested investing so much of their lives pounding the shareholders on that RagingBull.com CMKI board when it's been revoked for so many years and supposedly no longer a threat to anyone?"

Any insight into this strange phenomenon is appreciated.

This is an interesting post on Raging Bull's CMKI board this morning by Hans, a good fighter against naked shorting.  He also has determined that a couple of the posters I have mentioned are very shady characters to say the least.  Here's his post:

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By: hanssolong
01 Jul 2009, 03:35 AM EDT
Rating: post rating 0     Msg. 845422 of 845446
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The short and distort gang are here everyday and I learned 1 thing today Jumbo and The Cynic are deep into this.These characters are connected to the Ihub "sharks".Don't count on Matt keeping quiet like Madoff did.

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I also mentioned Matt Brown before.  He's the operator of IHUB (InvestorsHub.com) who was recently indicted on 4 different pump and dumps.  Pump and dumps are supposedly the targets of these "volunteer amateur investigators", yet it's being revealed that they are closely tied to some of the miscreants which are their supposed enemies.  I hope Matt Brown, just like Hartley Bernstein did, rats on his comrades for a reduced sentence.  You can bet these rats are worried about that, too, as they know there is no honor among thieves.

Do the IHUB scam connections never cease? LOL!

(1) There's IHUB CMKX Board Moderator Janice Shell posing as an anti-pump-and-dump "fraudbuster" after pleading for leniency for Tony "Nine Fingers" Elgindy at his sentencing (pages 40 & 48) .  She now says people misinterpret what she was doing.  Like how?  If you are at a convict's sentencing and you're providing complimentary testimony, then it's obvious you're doing it to mitigate the sentence on the defendant.

(2) Then there's IHUB co-owner and/or operator Matthew Brown, obviously close to his CMKX Board Moderator (Janice Shell) since they have appeared as co-defendants in yet another lawsuit (this one out of Canada), who was recently indicted for running, not one, but FOUR different pump and dumps. (Wait a minute!  Didn't I just say that his buddy, Janice, was an anti-pump-and-dump fraudbuster?)

(3) Someone just emailed me a link to a post on IHUB.  I noticed very large ad (obviously a source of income for them) for a teeth-whitening product called Dazzlewhite Pro Teeth.  So, I thought, what the heck, I'll check it out to find out if it's something I'd buy or invest in.  It leads you to their site, which then tries to sell you two products which need to be used in tandem.  The ad says it's free, but you pay only S/H, etc. Then, I did a Google search, and what's one of the first things I see?  This:

Dazzlewhite Pro Teeth Complaints - Scam, theives, liars
Review all Dazzlewhite Pro Teeth complaints
Dazzlewhite Pro Teeth
Posted: 2009-05-26 by           Honest hard-working American    
   
Scam, theives, liars
Complaint Rating: 98 % with 145 votes
Company information:
Anderson, South Carolina
United States

I am a 57 year old college educated female that has had a p/c for 12 years, but I feel like an idiot right now. I was reading a news article (CNN) and noticed to the side a story from a "mom" that lives in a town 30 miles from me about fantastic inexpensive teeth-whitening. Her piece was very "down-to-earth" and believable. You order just 2 free trials and pay a very small shipping fee to get snow white teeth. I fell for the SCAM, entered my credit card info, had second thoughts, and clicked on my bank account. In less than one minute, the $1.95 shipping plus $59.95 had been taken from me. I called my bank and was told the charges were pending and nothing could be done until the charges went thru. I called Dazzlewhite and the thief said I would have to return the product, get a tracking number (which requires paying EXTRA postage) before I could CANCEL or get a REFUND!!! All of this took place in less than TEN MINUTES. You also have a deadline to get it back to them or you'll still be charged!

What kind of country is this??? DO NOT ORDER THE FREE TRIAL FROM THESE CROOKS!!! If this product was so good, they would not stoop to scamming and stealing from honest folks. NEVER AGAIN will I fall for such CONS on the internet!!! If you order this stuff, you will be sorry and like me...feel like a fool!!


OK, it's POSSIBLE they didn't know.  But, then again, what are the odds with their track record?

Mina Mar Group Wins Slander Lawsuit Against the Investors Hub

TORONTO, Jan. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ - Mina Mar Group Inc. www.minamargroup.com/ (MMG) and Mina Mar Marketing Group www.minamargroup.net/ (MMMG) inform the public that the courts ruled in the favour of Mina Mar Group in slander lawsuit against Investors Hub.

Mr. Justice Belobaba, Ontario Superior Court Of Justice awarded judgment in favor of Mina Mar Group, and awarded $75,000 in general damages, $10,000 in punitive damages and $20,000 for the trial costs to the company.

This was never about the money but rather principle. These stock bashers should not be allowed to destroy other peoples reputations and businesses with slanderous and malicious posts on the Internet

The court ruling can be seen on this link http://www.minamargroup.com/stock_bashers.php

Mina Mar Group wishes to quote some key declarations of the court:

    "4... THIS COURT ORDERS that all negative, defamatory and libellous
postings, made by Posters and members of Investors Hub.Com Inc web site are
untrue and are and were made without any foundation nor basis for any of their
content

    5... THE COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants, Robert Zumbrunnen, Matt Brown
and InvestorsHub.com Inc. apologize and publicly retract the libelous
statements made against the Plaintiffs and that they shall send their signed
retraction to the Plaintiffs and publish the same on the web site,
InvestorsHub.com

    6. THIS COURT ORDERS that Robert Zumbrunnen, Matt Brown and
InvestorsHub.com Inc. provide the names and addresses of the following of its
members and posters:
    Stratey, itlogic, Jim Bishop, Janice Shell, Universal Trader, Rtso,
Livingstyle, Soyelpato, AccipiterO, strongtower, snow, peraire, and Fast Flyer
03, Strongtower, 1 summer, AccipiterQ, bob41, Buckley, soyelpato, greedy
malone, rolltide, marine-1, firelane, (and any other poster who makes
negative, libelous or defamatory statements against the Plaintiffs)
anonymously named John Doe (the foregoing collectively known as "The
Posters"). ..."

Mina Mar Group recently introduced the "Get the Facts Right" statement to our clients, which we remind all of our clients' shareholders to review before taking any advice from a stock board chat room. Most advisors have hidden agendas and prey on the unsuspecting.

Get the Facts Right. The issuer works hard to continue to keep our shareholders informed, and news is updated frequently via Press Releases, Pink Sheet http://www.pinksheets.com/ filings, and updates to our websites. Other websites not sponsored, or recognized by the Company may provide misleading or disinformation to investors in order to manipulate trading patterns for a given stock. Always look for original content from trusted sources, rather than relying on 'excerpts' or discussion boards that may not give you the whole story. The Securities and Exchange Commission requires financial institutions or brokerage firms to provide their clients with documentation, describing the risks of investing in penny stocks.

Vigorous enforcement of the court order including motions for contempt of court for any non compliance will commence shortly in Florida.

ABOUT Mina Mar Group:

Mina Mar Group (MMG) is a corporate consultancy firm that specializes in small cap or OTC market business services, including public markets in Frankfurt, Germany, and UK. Our focus is on growth companies or emerging markets such as those in South America, Eastern Europe, and Mainland China. We provide our clients with comprehensive advisory, and consulting services regarding mergers and acquisitions, including reverse mergers of private companies into publicly traded entities, and special purpose companies (SPC) offshore. MMG also offers a full suite of related ancillary services subsequent to the successful completion of a reverse merger, including private placements, PIPE offerings and Pink Sheets Adequate Disclosure documentation, various SEC regulatory filings and a broad range of other corporate governance matters. We license our brand name and back office as a white label solution which allows professionals in the industry to tap into the MMG back office to deliver high quality solutions on a private label basis. We also operate a small shareholders' advocacy division which seeks out publicly traded companies in distress or where the minority shareholders' positions are in peril, and assists as a guardian with interim and or turn-around management. Through its wholly owned subsidiary, Mina Mar marketing Group MMMG (www.minamargroup.net), we offer publicly traded companies services such as investor Relations, and investor awareness.

The information contained herein is based on sources which we believe to be reliable but is not guaranteed by us as being accurate and does not purport to be a complete statement or summary of the available data. The owner, publisher, editor and their associates are not responsible for errors and omissions. They may from time to time have a position in the securities mentioned herein and may increase or decrease such positions without notice. Any opinions expressed are subject to change without notice. MMG encourages readers and investors to supplement the information in these reports with independent research and other professional advice. All information on featured companies is provided by the companies profiled, or is available from public sources and MMG makes no representations, warranties or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of the disclosure by the profiled companies or the information contained herein. MMG and its affiliates are not registered investment advisors or broker-dealers. MMG has been advised that the investments in companies profiled are considered to be high risk and use of the information provided is at the investor's sole risk. MMG also advises that the purchase of such high risk securities may result in the loss of some or all of the investment. Investors should not rely solely on the information presented. Rather, investors should use the information provided by the profiled companies as a starting point for doing additional independent research on the profiled companies in order to allow the investor to form his or her own opinion regarding investing in the profiled companies. Factual statements made by the profiled companies are made as of the date stated and are subject to change without notice. Investing in micro-cap securities is highly speculative and carries an extremely high degree of risk. It is possible that an investor's entire investment may be lost or impaired due to the speculative nature of the companies profiled. MMG makes no recommendation that the securities of the companies profiled should be purchased, sold or held by individuals or entities that learn of the profiled companies through MMG. MMG owners may or may not hold positions in the companies that are profiled. The information contained herein contains forward-looking information within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1993 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 including statements regarding expected continual growth of the company and the value of its securities. In accordance with the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 it is hereby noted that statements contained herein that look forward in time which include everything other than historical information, involve risk and uncertainties that may affect the company's actual results of operation. Factors that could cause actual results to differ include the size and growth of the market for the company's products, the company's ability to fund its capital requirements in the near term and in the long term, pricing pressures, unforeseen and/or unexpected circumstances in happenings, pricing pressures, etc. Investing in securities is speculative and carries risk. Past performance does not guarantee future results.

CONTACT: www.minamargroup.net/helpdesk

SOURCE Mina Mar Group

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases … 23462.html

Yesterday (02/17/2010), Matt Brown, the founder of InvestorHub.com (IHUB) message board entered a "Plea Agreement" in which he plead guilty to securities fraud.  Here's story from Orange County Business News:

O.C. Stock Board Founder Pleads Guilty to Fraud
February 17th, 2010, 2:07 pm · 4 Comments · posted by Ronald Campbell

Matthew Brown, founder of Orange County stock board InvestorsHub.com, pleaded guilty today to four counts of stock fraud and money laundering. He faces up to 20 years in prison and a $500,000 fine. Brown entered his plea in U.S. District Court in Delaware.

Federal prosecutors charged Brown and six others with a pump-and-dump scheme to hype five lightly traded stocks on InvestorsHub, drive up the price and then sell. In his plea agreement, Brown admitted that investors lost at least $1 million because of his scheme.

Prosecutors said Brown and the others arranged with help from insiders to gain control of millions of shares in the target companies. Then they spread glowing rumors on InvestorsHub and other stock boards, prompting unwitting buyers to rush in. Then they sold.

A key figure in the case, Polish citizen Pawel Dynkowski, also known as “Evo� , remains at large, Assistant U.S. Attorney Shannon Hanson said.

Another defendant,  Gerard D’Amaro of Lighthouse Point., Fla., is scheduled to change his plea from innocent to guilty on March 11, Hanson said.

Since the original indictment of Brown, Dynkowski, D’Amaro and two others last May, a federal grand jury indicted two more alleged participants, Florian Ternes and Richard Bailey. They were insiders at one of the target companies, GH3 International, and allegedly arranged to provide 312 million shares for the scheme.


Here's a link to the story:
http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2010/02/17/o-c-stock-board-founder-pleads-guilty-to-fraud/16849/

Here's a link to his Plea Bargain Agreement:
http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/files/2010/02/Brown-plea-2010-02-171.pdf

Funny that his associate, the infamous "volunteer fraudbuster" Janice Shell, completely overlooked the multiple pump and dumps run right under her nose while concentrating on long-revoked CMKM Diamonds, Inc.  She's very selective on which scammers she targets, and which ones, such as Elgindy and Brown, that she befriends.

what ever happened to fat matt brown, no sentence?

Janice Shell and gang are at it again making sure investors will loose their money.
iHub is her forte.

As the stock SAEI hits another stellar high last week she jumped right in and started screaming scam.
The iHub thread suddenly changed hands overnight naming her as an assistant moderator and the posting rules get tighter every day with many posters being banned from the board.
There are no posts by the Head Moderator Renee, just lots of warnings in the sticky section
I tried to ask the Head Mod if they were invested in SAEI with no response
The SEC halts trading two days later as the stock plummets from ninety cents to ten cents.


A lot of money hit the floor and all reference to Supatcha Resources Inc (SAEI) web site is off limits to post now because this has been posted there: 

NOTICE TO INVESTORS!

SUPATCHA RESOURCES INC. (SAEI) HIJACKED BY BASHERS!

Recent events surrounding the stock and the Investors Hub's SAEI Stock Board have made for a very problematic situation to SAEI.
On Saturday December 11, 2010, Supatcha came under attack by a group led by an individual known as Janice Shell.
This group has worked non-stop day and night to discredit the company and have successfully managed to bring the stock price down, in addition to having the stock suspended be the SEC by spreading false information about the company.
Posters belonging to this group include: overachiever, SRV-90, PLAYER ONE, doberman, Fire Lane, power_forward72, Virtual Drew, Whiplash_Investor, patchman.

Their tactics include: blackmail, smear campaigns, espionage, fraud, harassment, extortion, bribery, rumor-mongering, sabotage,
off-shore money laundering, political cronyism, frivolous lawsuits, witness tampering, biased financial research, false identities,
bogus credit ratings, bribery, libelous blogs, bad science, forgery, wiretapping, counterfeiting, collusion, lying, cheating,
threats and theft.

Their most atrocious trick is to sell “phantom stock.�  By exploiting a glitch in Wall Street’s computerized trading system,
and a loophole in federal regulations, some hedge funds sell virtually unlimited amounts of stock that they have not yet borrowed or purchased.
This is often referred to as “naked short selling.�  Hedge funds use this tactic to flood the market with supply and drive down prices.

We URGE ALL INVESTORS to do a web search on her name and include MMG, IHub, short and Janice Shell in the search parameters.
You will get information such as this:



I hope that someone with more research abilities than I can check this out.
Their shenanigans has caused myself and many others to loose our investment there.

Peace
Sif

I have been looking for this information.Hope it will provides help to others.

Interesting topic. Want to see more on what you guys think about this.

thanks Siforus ur post was really helpful but in my opinion u didnt share knowledge completly there is something missing ur post is not complete yet what u think?????

They openly express their hatred of the site and condemned his "posters, but they are completely timid with respect to directly respond to any messages DeepCapture forum. Do you know why. These criminals who have something to hide. Otherwise they would not be so terrible in this forum . period. Their actions speak louder than words...