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#1476 2012-04-03 08:49:25

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Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

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SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:45:11 AM

Re: lucvuillermoz post# 197504

Post # of 197513

The shorts know the dividend is still in play.

Just ask them.

Oh wait...

Tic Toc



AlanC

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:25:23 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197506

Post # of 197514

Precisely. Don't even need to ask, just observe and it is perfectly clear the shortman has big problems here and no way to escape. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:26:50 AM

Re: AlanC post# 197507

Post # of 197514

Still waiting for proof to support fantasy claims of canceled dividends.

Tic Toc



AlanC

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:26:27 AM

Re: ctrumabll post# 197509

Post # of 197514

FINRA provides the evidence in black and white. Total volume traded for the day and the percentage of the total volume that were short sales. The numbers are staggering. Over 90% and
FINRA admits there numbers are on the low side. UBSS and Credit Suisse fined by regulators for mismarking short trades and calling them long. It is likely that every single share sold in the past two years did not exist. 100% short sales! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!

FINRA short sale numbers for Novemeber 2010 for FFGO!!!

20101101|FFGO|2849999|3849999|0 74%
20101102|FFGO|1750000|1750000|O 100%
20101103|FFGO|7000000|7107200|O 98%
20101104|FFGO|2000000|2000000|O 100%
20101105|FFGO|7999999|10999999|O 73%
20101108|FFGO|15050000|26500000|O 57%
20101110|FFGO|1000000|2898917|O 34%
20101111|FFGO|2419999|2419999|O 100%
20101112|FFGO|3100000|3200000|O 97%
20101116|FFGO|1000000|1340000|O 75%
20101117|FFGO|6000001|10778584|O 56%
20101118|FFGO|2000000|4014600|O 50%
20101122|FFGO|19845000|19845000|O 100%
20101123|FFGO|500000|1000000|O 50%
20101130|FFGO|20385000|21035000|O 97%
Nov. totals: 79,354,998.00 107,739,299.00 74% sold short

Here are the FINRA short sale numbers for December 2010:

20101202|FFGO|999999|999999|O 100%
20101203|FFGO|615000|4585000|O 13%
20101206|FFGO|1100000|1220000|O 90%
20101207|FFGO|700000|3700000|O 19%
20101208|FFGO|750000|1017259|O 74%
20101209|FFGO|2500000|4500000|O 56%
20101210|FFGO|57089999|74194973|O 77%
20101213|FFGO|6000000|10005000|O 59.7%
20101214|FFGO|28900077|31695902|O 91%
20101215|FFGO|5500000|5704441|O 96%
20101216|FFGO|33250000|54755000|O 61%
20101217|FFGO|8890998|9340998|O 95%
20101220|FFGO|5615800|6660800|O 84%
20101221|FFGO|9600000|11200000|O 86%
20101222|FFGO|24577777|31723803|O 77%
20101227|FFGO|154399995|176901620|O 87%
20101228|FFGO|4999999|4999999|O 100%
20101229|FFGO|9382269|9426819|O 100%
20101230|FFGO|7000000|7010000|O 100%
20101231|FFGO|4081168|8192303|0 50%
Dec. totals: 361,453,081.00 457,833,916.00 79%


2010 short sale totals: 440,808,079. out of a total volume of 565,573,215 or 78% shares sold short. Note well the SEC only started publishing FINRA's daily short sale numbers in Nov. of 2010.


January 2011

20110103|FFGO|20000000|22953402|O 87%
20110104|FFGO|9100000|9400000|O 96.8%
20110105|FFGO|8250000|13250000|O 62.3%
20110106|FFGO|11000000|11220000|O 98%
20110107|FFGO|9999999|9999999|O 100%
20110110|FFGO|400000|900000|O 44%
20110111|FFGO|1500000|2000000|O 75%
20110112|FFGO|1400000|1400000|O 100%
20110113|FFGO|1300000|1800000|O 72%
20110114|FFGO|23859999|38587151|O 61%
20110118|FFGO|3000400|3400400|O 88%
20110120|FFGO|7499999|8099999|O 92.5%
20110124|FFGO|1800000|1800000|O 100%
20110125|FFGO|800000|800000|O 100%
20110126|FFGO|10000000|10000625|O 99.9%
20110131|FFGO|317800|317800|O 100%


February 2011

20110202|FFGO|20700000|36210000|O 57%
20110203|FFGO|13400000|38601000|O 34.7%
20110209|FFGO|200000|365000|O 54.7%
20110210|FFGO|2900000|3700000|O 78.3%
20110211|FFGO|500000|4970000|O 10%
20110214|FFGO|2000000|2006250|O 99.6%
20110216|FFGO|17700000|27770000|O 63%
20110217|FFGO|525499999|528499999|O 99.4% COLD WINTER DAY
20110218|FFGO|7600000|8725000|O 87.1%
20110222|FFGO|10000000|10526708|O 94.9%
20110223|FFGO|2000000|2700000|O 74%
20110225|FFGO|1000000|1455000|O 68.7%

March 2011

20110301|FFGO|1000000|0|1350000|O 74%
20110303|FFGO|1795000|0|3492848|O 51%
20110304|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20110307|FFGO|1800000|0|1800000|O 100%
20110311|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20110314|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110315|FFGO|3500000|0|4500000|O 77.7%
20110316|FFGO|11500000|0|11500650|O 99.99%
20110317|FFGO|3114000|0|3617357|O 86%
20110318|FFGO|13020000|0|13020000|O 100%
20110324|FFGO|150000|0|701113|O 21%
20110325|FFGO|110000|0|110000|O 100%
20110329|FFGO|1497300|0|1497300|O 100%
20110331|FFGO|1999999|0|3430269|O 58%

April 2011

20110404|FFGO|5891100|0|6651100|O 88.5%
20110405|FFGO|126400|0|126400|O 100%
20110406|FFGO|150000|0|150000|O 100%
20110411|FFGO|456000|0|456000|O 100%
20110413|FFGO|876543|0|876543|O 100%
20110414|FFGO|4100000|0|4741400|O 86.4%
20110415|FFGO|1500000|0|2500000|O 65%
20110420|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20110421|FFGO|1560000|0|1560000|O 100%
20110425|FDTC|4000|0|25000|O 16%
20110426|FFGO|1000000|0|1000162|O 99.9%
20110427|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110428|FFGO|8072700|0|8322700|O 96.9%
20110429|FFGO|30210000|0|30210000|O 100%

May 2011

20110502|FFGO|4476700|0|4476700|O 100%
20110503|FFGO|7338600|0|10788600|O 68%
20110504|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110505|FFGO|1620000|0|2140000|O 75.7%
20110506|FFGO|1500000|0|1505583|O 99.6%
20110509|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110511|FFGO|3000000|0|3040000|O 88.2%
20110512|FFGO|7200000|0|8200000|O 87.8%
20110516|FFGO|8200000|0|8300000|O 98.7%
20110517|FFGO|4099900|0|4199900|O 97.6%
20110518|FFGO|585000|0|585000|O 100%
20110520|FFGO|1000777|0|1000777|O 100%
20110523|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110524|FFGO|500000|0|800000|O 62%
20110525|FFGO|18585000|0|18585000|O 100%
20110527|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110531|FFGO|7628700|0|8031462|O 94.9%

June 2011

20110603|FFGO|400000|0|400000|O 100%
20110606|FFGO|2710000|0|2710000|O 100%
20110607|FFGO|24000000|0|24000000|O 100%
20110608|FFGO|173800|0|173800|O 100%
20110609|FFGO|2500000|0|2500000|O 100%
20110610|FFGO|83100|0|83100|O 100%
20110614|FFGO|1500000|0|1500000|O 100%
20110615|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110616|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110617|FFGO|1105223|0|1355223|O 81.5%
20110621|FFGO|423000|0|423000|O 100%
20110623|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110624|FFGO|3401333|0|3401333|O 100%
20110629|FFGO|8619200|0|8619200|O 100%
20110630|FFGO|200400|0|200400|O 100%

July 2011

20110701|FFGO|5497995|0|5497995|O 100%
20110706|FFGO|400400|0|700400|O 57%
20110711|FFGO|500000|0|1400000|O 35%
20110714|FFGO|1102699|0|1102699|O 100%
20110715|FFGO|300100|0|400100|O 75%
20110718|FFGO|10850000|0|10850000|O 100%
20110719|FFGO|74000000|0|74000000|O 100%
20110720|FFGO|54100000|0|54100000|O 100%
20110722|FFGO|30000000|0|30000000|O 100%
20110725|FFGO|10346500|0|10346500|O 100%
20110727|FFGO|2400100|0|3400100|O 70.5%

August 2011

20110801|FFGO|8900000|0|8900000|O 100%
20110803|FFGO|5550000|0|5550000|O 100%
20110804|FFGO|7000100|0|10325100|O 67%
20110805|FFGO|5573333|0|5723333|O 100%
20110808|FFGO|405800|0|405800|O 100%
20110809|FFGO|3400000|0|3500000|O 97.1%
20110811|FFGO|3279000|0|3279000|O 100%
20110812|FFGO|100100|0|100100|O 100%
20110815|FFGO|14500000|0|14500000|O 100%
20110816|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110817|FFGO|10490000|0|10490000|O 100%
20110818|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20110822|FFGO|467000|0|467000|O 100%
20110823|FFGO|55633600|0|55633600|O 100%
20110824|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20110825|FFGO|750000|0|750000|O 100%
20110829|FFGO|1500000|0|1500000|O 100%
20110831|FFGO|45327062|0|61885560|O 73.2%


September 2011

20110901|FFGO| 777000|0| 832000|O 93.3%
20110902|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20110908|FFGO|1920000|0|1920000|O 100%
20110909|FFGO|2500000|0|2500000|O 100%
20110913|FFGO|5000000|0|5299100|O 94.3%
20110914|FFGO|3000000|0|3000000|O 100%
20110923|FFGO|2000000|0|2320000|O 86.2%
20110928|FFGO|1000600|0|1125600|O 88.8%

Month totals: 20,197,600/20,996,700 96.1%

October 2011

20111003|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20111004|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20111005|FFGO|310000|0|590000|O 52.5%
20111006|FFGO|600000|0|1600000|O 37.5%
20111010|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20111012|FFGO|2010000|0|2390000|O 84.1%
20111013|FFGO|2999999|0|2999999|O 100%
20111014|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20111018|FFGO|8000000|0|11000000|O 72.7%
20111019|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20111026|FFGO|2150000|0|2150000|O 100%


Month totals: 23,659,999/28329,999 83.5%

FFGO YEAR TO DATE

JAN 110,228,197/ 135,899,376
FEB 603,499,999/ 665,528,957
MAR 42,086,299/ 47,619,537
APR 55,046,743/ 57,719,305
MAY 71,734,677/ 77,653,022
JUN 49,116,056/ 49,366,056
JLY 189,497,794/ 191,797,794
AUG 168,375,995/ 188,509,493
SEP 20,197,000/ 20,996,700
OCT 23,659,999/28,329,999
Year to date totals

1,333,442.759/ 1,453,420,239 91.7% SHORT VOLUME for shares sold in 2011

regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20110324.txt
Total short volume since FINRA began publishing records in Nov. 2010:
1,774,250,838 short shares sold out of total volume of 2,018,993,454 or 87.9% of all shares sold were sold short!
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:28:15 AM

Re: AlanC post# 197510

Post # of 197514

Did you know FFGO management has been fighting the naked shorting of its stock for almost 7 years? Did you know that the stock was billions short back in 2006? Did you know that management tried hard to force those short to cover and regulators failed to enforce existing rules and regulations and allowed the naked shorters to continue to sell more non existant shares into the markets? Did you know management used every method available to them to try and thwart the attacks including multiple dividends and even reverse splitting the stock and still the naked shorters continued to sell non existant shares trying to drive FFGO into bankruptcy? Thanks management for being such warriors! Thanks for developing a plan that will insure that your shareholders are compensated for the suffering endured at the hands of the criminal naked shorters. Thanks for your courage and your caring.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!

Thanks to BullFinch for this DD:

Great West Gold, Inc. Continues
To Monitor Short Selling
NEW YORK, May 8, 2006 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) confirms that BUYINS.NET, www.buyins.net, continues its coverage of Great West Gold, Inc. (OTCBB: GWGOE) after releasing the latest short sale data through May 2006. From January 2005 to May 2006 approximately 28.73 billion total aggregate shares of GWGOE have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $22.7 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 2.21 billion shares. The GWGOE SqueezeTrigger price of $0.00079 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in GWGO. A short squeeze started when shares of GWGOE closed above $0.00079. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://www.buyins.net/.
Press Release

Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com

http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/080506_GWG_PR_Buyins_Report.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. – Squeeze Trigger Report
NEW YORK, NY, February 21, 2006, Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB: GWGO) announced on February 16, that www.buyins.net, is initiating coverage of Great West Gold, Inc. (OTCBB: GWGO) after releasing the latest short sale data through February 2006. From January 2005 to February 2006 approximately 20.59 billion total aggregate shares of GWGO have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $12.35 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 1.59 billion shares. The GWGO SqueezeTrigger price of $0.0006 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in GWGO. A short squeeze is expected to begin when shares of GWGO close above $0.0006. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://buyins.net/squeezetrigger.pdf.
Press Release

Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com

http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/210206_GWG_PR_Squeeze_Trigger_Report.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. –
Share Price And Trading Activity
NEW YORK, NY, February 17, 2006, Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB: GWGO) confirms that it has noted that its share price traded at a new low yesterday with in excess of 1 billion shares being traded on that day.
The Company has requested an urgent “Squeeze Trigger” Report from www.buyins.net in respect of the Company’s trading including yesterday and upon receipt of this report, it will be published by the Company.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com

http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/170206_GWG_PR_Trading_Activity.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. – Update On Naked Short Selling
Great West Gold (“GWGO”) Report
NEW YORK, December 27, 2005 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) announced on November 8, 2005 that Great West Gold, Inc. has now subscribed to a service that will “expose” all naked short positions in its stock on a monthly basis. The Company undertook to publish this list on its web site and issue a Press Release disclosing full details contained in that monthly report. Great West Gold, Inc. is now determined to attack those who are involved in the illegal naked short selling of its stock.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com



http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/271205_GWG_PR_Update_on_Short_Selling.pdf


Great West Gold, Inc. – UPDATE ON NAKED SHORT NEW YORK, November 9, 2005 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) announced on November 8, 2005 that Great West Gold, Inc. has now subscribed to a service that will “expose” all naked short positions in its stock on a monthly basis. The Company undertook to publish this list on its web site and issue a Press Release disclosing full details contained in that monthly report. Great West Gold, Inc. is now determined to attack those who are involved in the illegal naked short selling of its stock.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com


http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/091105_GWG_PR_Update_on_Short_Selling.pdf
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:01:35 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197517

Post # of 197521

Claims of there NEVER being a dividend and that NON-EXISTANT dividend being canceled are nothing more than fantasies with no filing or communication from the company to back up such wild claims.

Good Luck!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:41:40 AM

Re: Fire Lane post# 197521

Post # of 197529

you are wrong. the company clearly stated to me that the dividend was cancelled. then they laughed and said they never had any intention of giving a dividend. - Fire Lane

Interesting.

Would love to see the written proof that the company intended on scamming investors.

Claiming that such information exists is nothing more than fantasy until proven otherwise.

Good Luck!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:47:27 AM

Re: alien42 post# 197529

Post # of 197541

surely you jest, scammers like those who ran FFGO would never provide such written proof. - alien42

Claims of material events (i.e. cancelation of dividend process, no intent to distribute dividend, etc.) occurring that have not been reported by the company, in additional filings or investor communications, are backed by nothing but continuous conjecture.

Simply put, claims against what the company has stated regarding the dividend process are nothing but fantasies.

Good Luck!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:05:54 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197531

Post # of 197541

Shorts NEED those clauses to have been exercised!

Still waiting on the written proof that the claims of cancelation of the dividend process are real and not just fantasy.

Shareholders are holding those illegal markers closely.

Time is drawing close for those short to pay up.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:12:39 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197533

Post # of 197542

enough of the fantasy, there was never a significant short position in FFGO.

FFGO shareholders are stuck with worthless revoked shares and no fantasy will change that. - alien42

If there is no short, than those short have nothing to worry about.

Dividend Coming!

Tic Toc




OldBen 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:15:50 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197513

Post # of 197543

In 2009, We passed 600 trillion in bad debt and overleveraged shadow banking and very few saw it and did something about it. It wasn't until Lehman and other banks actually started failing entirely that it was "discovered."

NSS will be no different. It will overwhelm us before legal action is taken against it.

NSS is real. Nothing crazy about it. How many companies will fail until NSS is "discovered." With foresight like yours, it will be very many companies indeed.




SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:16:21 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197535

Post # of 197543

how can something that doesn't exist 'worry'? - alien42

Exactly! If there is no short, than there is no worry.

Irony is, there is PLENTY of WORRY!

Tic Toc





OldBen 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:20:05 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197538

Post # of 197543

You were discussing NSS. NSS is a tool of shadow banking that has yet to be "discovered" like other instruments. FFGO has NSS. Easy as that.




AlanC

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:31:36 PM

Re: OldBen post# 197540

Post # of 197544

OldBen: You nailed it! Once naked shorting is "discovered" I have no doubt the Super 8K announcing our dividends will be filed. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:34:05 PM

Re: AlanC post# 197542

Post # of 197544

FFGO - Filing must be around the corner. Pressure is on.

NMGL NMGL NMGL

GO FFGO!


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:35:51 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197541

Post # of 197544

Plenty of proof of NSS in OTC stocks as of late.

Will be interesting to see how short market makers and brokers are for FFGO.

How much ex-clearing and self-clearing has allowed these IOU's to multiple and corrupt the markets?

Tic Toc


5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

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#1477 2012-04-03 14:33:26

Bull Finch
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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

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paunch13   

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:42:41 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197544

Post # of 197567

Seven
I believe that is the main problem for FFGO, The short is so great on FFGO so that when it is proven and made to be taken care of it will change the whole market and that is why it is taking so long to get these divis paid, they haven't yet figured out how to handle this problem without distroying the whole market
John



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:44:53 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197546

Post # of 197567

FFGO was suspended and revoked by the SEC for not filing.

there is absolutely no reason to suspect that FFGO will ever file anyting in the future. - alien42

Company filed multiple Form 8-K's with the SEC stating that they would be filing a future Form 8-K announcing the record date and distribution date of the dividend, which is in process.

Claims that they have not filed anything are not true, since there is proof that the company has filed multiple 8-K's regarding a dividend, which fantasy-landers are claiming was never put in process.

Shorts have been scammed. The evidence continues to build in the OTC.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:46:40 PM

Re: paunch13 post# 197547

Post # of 197567

That could be a possibility. The other possibility is that the FBI, DOJ, IRS, and the SEC aren't done collecting their material information to bring the case to a settlement.




SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:55:01 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197551

Post # of 197567

the fantasy-landers continue to suggest that the dividend is going to occur when reality is it was never even declared. are you disputing this fact? - alien42

The dividend was distributed to WD, where it is currently being held for distribution to shareholders. The process was announced in PR's, emails, and Form 8-K filings with the SEC. Is the fact that the dividend process has proceeded up to the point it has being disputed?

Dividend process still in play until the company says otherwise.

Claims of cancelation and the nonexistence of the dividend process being set forth are not only a fantasies, but there is no legal documentation to support such claims.

Good Luck!



OldBen 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:42:06 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197541

Post # of 197567

I can think of some IHUB sites that NSS is mentioned that trade on the major exchanges. I can think of many penny stocks that have NSS. "Proven" to you probably needs a settlement or FINRA or other press release. Lawsuits are pending for several companies if you DD.

What is the difference between FFGO and bigger companies?? If NSS exists in one it can exist in another. Just harder for the penny stock to crawl out from the NSS pounding and fight the NSS.




OldBen 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:46:57 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197545

Post # of 197567

IMO, evidence has been ignored for years. Suddenly it will be "discovered." If it is not "discovered" then the more criminal element of ignoring it comes into play. That should be rather obvious.



Vianna 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:54:19 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197556

Post # of 197567

"Oh Wait!"

FFGO is revoked and there is

NO NEED FOR A WARNING at FFGO. NO ONE...including innocent inexperienced Newbies... can buy it!

fyi in case someone did not read the Memo

TIC TOC

V



waveegravy   

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:08:49 PM

Re: None

Post # of 1020

not much left at 0.069
next stop 0.10,
oooweeeeee

GNCC Capital, Inc. (GNCP)



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:35:36 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 255

Post # of 257

Sorry! But the fact that brokers are allowing orders to be placed is proof that he stock is able to trade.

Good Luck!

Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:48:44 AM

Re: alien42 post# 9352

Post # of 9368

why are the only stocks discussed on this board old scams and not current stocks? - alien42

There is a reason NSS'ing market makers and IOU holding brokers continue to focus on attacking companies and shareholders of old and revoked stocks.

Good Luck!




Bull Finch 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:26:32 PM

Re: alien42 post# 9362

Post # of 9369

Check out the Fraudulent Board!

They have that head in the sand mentality concerning NSS that you may be looking for!




AlanC

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:42:12 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9353

Post # of 9368

Every poster has a vested reason for posting. Posters are either long or short or paid to post either promoting stocks for those wanting to sell shares or bashing stocks for those who have already sold shares. Some posters would like us to think they posting for altruistic reasons. Those posters are full of it!




SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:06:21 AM

Re: fourkids_9pets post# 9363

Post # of 9368

Exactly! Those claiming NSS does not exist, after it has been proven time and time again that it does, avoid acknowledging those SEC complaints and news reports.

Those who are illegally naked short selling are about to return capital to those they have stolen from. Either they issue/offer refunds, or they should be forced to cover into the ask to close out their illegal naked short share positions.




SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:19:43 AM

Re: alien42 post# 9362

Post # of 9368

NSS is real. Has been proven!

If the American investor understood how corrupt the retail brokerage system really is, they would pull every penny out of the market.

Naked short selling to create temporary liquidity and an orderly market is one thing. Doing so with intent of manipulating the PPS down so illegal profits can be taken is another.

The short and distort is still alive and well.

Strange that so much attention is paid on stocks that do not trade and/or are revoked.

Must be a motive for doing so.

Tic Toc




janice shell 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:24:52 PM

Re: Whiplash_Investor post# 149878

Post # of 149888

MMs are allowed to short naked in order to provide liquidity. Usually they're careful, because they don't want buyin notices.

Do I think nameless and faceless offshore "hedge funds" are shorting penny stocks naked?

No.

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stoprun   

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:05:27 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197573

Something must be up or close to happening, Puppy is on here day and night posting, that is always a good sign for me. GLTA!!!
GO-----FFGO!!!!!!!



wrenchman 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:05:54 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197564

Post # of 197573

alien42 Member Profile alien42 Member Level

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Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:03:05 PM
Re: Vianna post# 197563
Post # of 197570
there may no longer be a need for a warning, which was sounded for quite some time before FFGO was suspended and revoked by the SEC but there is always a need for the truth and reality as long as the lies of the scammers behind FFGO continue.


Well since you put it that way i think you and your friends should leave i guess!!


globex   

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:12:56 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197573

alien and puppy will never leave the board. They obviously cant admit that they're wrong about FFGO. So if they tell us there account of the happenings over and over, some how they think it will become the truth, thru repetition.



Lebron23   

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:55:54 PM

Re: Vianna post# 197563

Post # of 197575

V, Awesome post!! Board should be ghost town by now....but it seems to actually be heating up!!
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FFGO!!

Dividend is LOCKED AND LOADED!!



Lebron23   

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:59:21 PM

Re: Doubleday post# 197574

Post # of 197576

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No there isn't.
Even if there was, you should be posting on those boards.




OldBen 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:29:30 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197560

Post # of 197583

Who is more conspiracy orientated towards FFGO? Who is more absolute in their thinking and more conspiracy orientated? Whether it is a supposed "scam" conspiracy or a supposed "NSS" conspiracy?

A person who says ALL claims of NSS in penny stocks are scams? A person who says ALL claims of NSS are designed to cover a pump and dump operation? A person who claims that there are NO proven (whatever that means) NSS in penny stocks. A person with omniscient knowledge that claims that there will NEVER EVER be a dividend in FFGO?

A person who claims that NSS exists in some companies across all exchanges to varying degrees by a hard examination of the evidence? A person who can be open to the possibility some level of impropriety in FFGO while at the same time see that this in no way effects the NSS one way or the other.

The absolute knowledge and piety that go with the "scam" belief appear much more conspiracy orientated than the NSS belief.



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

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#1478 2012-04-04 08:58:55

Bull Finch
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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

NSS ~ Counterfeiting Stock ~ MM Games Played

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BigBake1 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:25:46 PM

Re: fourkids_9pets post# 9370

Post # of 9397

Well maybe it is time to update your information, this is not the 80's and Penson is now the #2 Clearing firm with 437 Broker Dealers under their belt since 2010, only Pershing is now above them with their 840+ broker dealers. Confusing NSS not existing in the OTC with Making a Market are two entirely different discussions. I for one know the difference between LEGAL NSS and ILLEGAL NSS and why it must be done legally to ensure liquidity.

But that part I am sure you and I will disagree upon, but one things is for certain the information you have is old and no longer applicable in this market. Reading L2 and translating as a form of manipulation is also a lost cause, I can rep several bids on an L2 through direct quoting so the information is only as good as retail using it. It is simply a trading tool, not a detailed monitoring tool.

That is the real problem, the tools are being used for entirely different purposes than from what they were desingned to do.



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:07:57 PM

Re: BigBake1 post# 9371

Post # of 9397

90% shorting day in and day out does not allow for short covering to occur.

Good Luck!



AlanC

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:49:59 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9372

Post # of 9398

No question about it. The shortman's days are numbered. Just imagine a zero tolerance for FTD's. Bust all trades which result in an FTD with all funds including commissions returned and the injured party receiving 10% of the total value of the trade as compensation and it would stop this BS overnight.



OldBen

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:05:30 PM

Re: AlanC post# 9374

Post # of 9399

Zero tolerance for FTD's and Zero MM's would be nice.


fourkids_9pets 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:37:15 PM

Re: fourkids_9pets post# 9339

Post # of 9399

BCIT >> thread of interest >>

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Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:02:16 PM
Re: janice shell post# 149842

Post # of 149914

Big difference. In that case, there was no deception by the short sellers...their sales were marked as short, even though they had no intention of covering. Show me once case with BCIT where a broker has admitted selling short shares to their clients, and informing them of such...never mind having no intention to cover those sales and provide certificates as required by their own small print, UCC, SEC, and IRROC regulations.... My broker has always contended to me that my shares were long, and they were deliverable from the get-go, which simply is not true, as we now know. There is clear deception here on the part of brokers from the beginning...and it continues today. I may give you that they have been grossly incompetent, however, that is not a defence, and does not explain their outrageous behaviour of late...to include the activities of their paid shills.

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SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:34:36 PM

Re: BigBake1 post# 9371

Post # of 9399

Confusing NSS not existing in the OTC with Making a Market are two entirely different discussions. I for one know the difference between LEGAL NSS and ILLEGAL NSS and why it must be done legally to ensure liquidity. - Bigbake1

Naked short selling into buying demand until the buying pressure pullback is not making a liquid market. It is ensuring the one naked short selling of the bottom dropping and allowing him to cover for a profit, guaranteed.

Defending market makers and their illegal and abusive naked short selling is expected. Resources are plentiful when cash is endless.

Good Luck!




SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:29:00 PM

Re: BigBake1 post# 9368

Post # of 9399

So for example I sell 100,000 of XXXX security and yet the other broker only has 20,000 but has in fact located the other remaining 80,000 with two other brokers I am going to show 80% short due to the very first leg not having enough shares to cover. - BigBake1

So your broker sells your 100,000 shares (electronic markers), but only has 20,000 shares to back the sale. So, initially, the broker is 80% unable to prove 100% ownership of your shares.

So he needs to borrow 80,000 shares from another broker to settle the trade so it doesn't show up on the FTD list.

Of course that leg of the transaction is not reported on the daily ticker.

Where is that 80,000 short interest position being reported/recorded while you are holding 80,000 IOU markers not backed by shares?

Remember, only 20,000 shares were held by your broker. You "held" 100,000 shares. Which means your broker was 80,000 short on his books.

Good Luck!




BigBake1 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:48:41 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9378

Post # of 9399

Actually meant to write "I buy 100,000 shares of XXXX security........", but no matter what within seconds or minutes the entire order is complete. Maybe next time post the complete example as it was obvious I was talking about buying shares.


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But trading is not one singular step it is in fact multi legged transactions going between multiple parties to fill orders. In one single transaction there could 4 different brokers involved in a trade to fill it. The very 1st leg of trade is the ONLY recorded transaction for the Daily Reg SHO. So for example I sell 100,000 of XXXX security and yet the other broker only has 20,000 but has in fact located the other remaining 80,000 with two other brokers I am going to show 80% short due to the very first leg not having enough shares to cover.

The other brokers in their leg of the transaction sell their shares and I get a complete 100,000 share order. The daily aggregate gets no adjustment even though there is 100% completion of the transaction. That is why you must move up to the next settlement tool used to track NSS, that would be the FTD report as that is a summary of the end of the day unsettled trades. 


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:06:50 PM

Re: BigBake1 post# 9379

Post # of 9397

Actually meant to write "I buy 100,000 shares of XXXX security........", but no matter what within seconds or minutes the entire order is complete. Maybe next time post the complete example as it was obvious I was talking about buying shares. - BigBake1

OK, I'll bite.

You buy 100,000 shares.

Say, your broker uses NITE and NITE has 20,000 shares to sell. Level 2's show those 20,000 shares being offered by NITE. Order fills, and NITE moves off the ask at your offer price.

UBSS, AUTO, HDSN, etc. are also sitting there at your buy offer price.

AUTO is offering 50,000 shares and UBSS is offering 50,000 shares.

50,000 trade clears UBSS out (they move off the offer), and the remaining 30,000 is filled by AUTO. AUTO's level 2 offer drops to 20,000 shares to reflect their fill.

Because other brokers are selling shares to fill the remainder of your buy order, they must mark their sells as either long sells or as short sells to reflect their sell transaction.

The 80,000 that you bought from two other brokers/market makers are not automatically market short because they came from a market maker other than the one representing your broker.

Good Luck!



BigBake1

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:19:40 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9380

Post # of 9397

Yet those transaction are not part of the initial leg, that is the only recorded leg in the transaction, my broker and initial broker initiating the sell of shares. They must record they were short 80,000 shares, but the 80,000 is being sold to them from other brokers to fill the complete transaction in another leg of a Multi leg transaction. These additional 80,000 shares sells are in fact long sells for complete transaction to the short broker. This is all settled within seconds if not minutes as one complete transaction. The aggregate however does not change since the only recorded leg is the initial leg.

So yes the initial broker records the short position, but the two brokers filling the remaining 80,000 shares do not record their transactions as long sells due to their obligations meeting the short brokers request as per FINRA rules.


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:29:41 PM

Re: BigBake1 post# 9381

Post # of 9397

Yet those transaction are not part of the initial leg, that is the only recorded leg in the transaction, my broker and initial broker initiating the sell of shares. They must record they were short 80,000 shares, but the 80,000 is being sold to them from other brokers to fill the complete transaction in another leg of a Multi leg transaction. These additional 80,000 shares sells are in fact long sells for complete transaction to the short broker. This is all settled within seconds if not minutes as one complete transaction. The aggregate however does not change since the only recorded leg is the initial leg.

So yes the initial broker records the short position, but the two brokers filling the remaining 80,000 shares record their transactions as long sells due to their obligations meeting the short brokers request as per FINRA rules. - BigBake1

That is not how it "always" works. Sorry.

The 80,000 shares, sold to you, are marked long or marked short based upon whether the other two market makers selling were selling shares long or selling shares short. That is the leg of the trade recorded. Recorded is the "nature" of their sell. They either shorted or they sold long.

Your 80,000 buy is not recorded as a separate transaction. Your buy and their sell was one transaction.

Claiming a "hypothetical" situation, where a market maker may be selling "for" another market maker, on select occasions, as the norm, and with absolute certainty, 100% of the time, is inaccurate and misleading.

Good Luck!



BigBake1 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:35:46 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9382

Post # of 9397

That is how it works and I had to edit my last sentence, but i did not say always either, the two brokers do not record their transactions in accordance with FINRA rules. This is not hypothetical as it occurs ever day and was not the only example I provided of why shares are marked short, I provided a second example (conversion warrants..etc ) as there are many examples, it is just one of many reasons as to why shares are recorded short.

Maybe you should read that entire post again and actually read the referenced material which covers the reporting requirements for MMs in such transactions.


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:58:50 PM

Re: BigBake1 post# 9383

Post # of 9397

Maybe you should read that entire post again and actually read the referenced material which covers the reporting requirements for MMs in such transactions. - BigBake1

Claiming that every trade, which is marked short, is a member acting in behalf of another member is misleading and incorrect.

Also, the fact that short sales, included in the non-tape report, are not reported, or published, in the daily and monthly files, and may result in under-inclusive reporting of both sets of short data.

Ignoring these warnings and advisories by FINRA may be representative of intentionally being under-inclusive, in reporting all the fact,s and all possible "market making" scenarios.

How could a market maker short sell and not report on the daily list or the monthly list?

Just have a market maker act in your behalf. He sells short, and then you sell short to him to allow him to cover. It appears as if he has covered. And the remaining short interest position created by the non-tape short sale, does not have to be "published" for your short interest position.

Great system and one that is easily gamed!


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8 Certain OTC transactions (e.g., riskless principal and agency transactions where one member is acting on behalf of another member) are reported to FINRA in related tape and non-tape reports. Tape reports are submitted to FINRA for public dissemination by the appropriate exclusive Securities Information Processor (“SIP”), while non-tape reports are submitted to FINRA, but are not submitted to the SIP for public dissemination. FINRA will not be including non-tape reports in either the daily short sale volume file or the monthly short sale transaction file. Accordingly, in those instances where the short sale indicator is only included in the related non-tape report, the short sale data published in the daily and monthly files may be under-inclusive. Similarly, the published figures will not include odd lots since these transactions are not disseminated to the consolidated tape.
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11 While members generally are required to report trades in equity securities to FINRA within 90 seconds, a firm could improperly delay reporting of short sales until well after the close, which would result in the under-reporting of over-the-counter short sale volume. Delaying the reporting of trades for such a purpose would be considered a violation of the applicable trade reporting rules and Rule 2010 (Standards of Commercial Honor and Principles of Trade).
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http://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/finra/2009/34-60807.pdf



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:21:17 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9384

Post # of 9397

Too funny! Looks like you didn't buy the BS that was baked up to try and dazzle you. lol This is the canned response those trying to justify the FINRA short numbers try to use to confuse and deflect. In fact they often try to make it more believable by attributing it to one Dave Patch. Watch out for those multiple legs, cause they will get ya if you are not careful!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:47:42 AM

Re: AlanC post# 9385

Post # of 9397

AlanC, The attempts to minimize the value of the daily numbers is wide speed. One has to ask themselves, why would there be such an effort put forth?

There are partial and possible truths twisted into the picture being painted by those attempting to play down the impact of 100% shorting, day in and day out.

It does't help with the SEC, DOJ, FBI, DTCC, and FINRA looking the other way.



BigBake1 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:53:36 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9384

Post # of 9397

Once again I did not claim every trade was, I stated some of the common occurrences and gave two examples, Multi legged transactions and new share issuance. There are many more reasons trades get marked short but the at the end of the day all of them or nearly all of them are covered as reports by the FTD reports.

Why would there be double tape reporting? The initial transaction is the only recorded transaction, 100,000 to the trading tape and 80,000 to the Daily Reg SHO report. The other trades for cover are not reported in their legs of the transaction because the trading tape is already recording a 100,000 share trade and the Daily Reg SHO does not show the legs after the initial trade transaction in accordance with FINRA.

As far as the rest of your post, no kidding it outlines the rules, warnings and advisories for failure to report no different than full reporting companies for their failure to report on time or not at all. Is there some flexibility in penalty? Certainly, we have all witnessed companies failing to post their quarterlies on time, even after an extension and yet not earn an "E" or suspension in trading. I am certain some MMs have failed to report in 90 seconds but like anything we do not know the exact reason behind the failure to report on time.

The fact still stand, the Daily Reg SHO is a tool that tracks the initial leg of a transaction and does not get mitigated as the trade is covered in the multiple legs after. It also cannot differentiate a long position trade being marked short due to risk exposure. To draw any conclusion of NSS on this data is way premature and for those that draw short positions from such data is pure ignorance of what the report actually is disclosing.

Could there be better process? Sure, there is always room for improvement.



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:09:31 AM

Re: fourkids_9pets post# 9392

Post # of 9397

I agree. The easiest way to short, and never report is to have a market maker short on your behalf, then you short to them to allow them to "reset" cover. This is possibly done off-tape, and results in the appearance of the initial trade being settled with shares. The initial short sale is then not required to be reported on the monthly report, and neither is the off-tape trade that leave a short position open. What a beautiful loophole FINRA and the SEC keeps open for abusive naked short sellers in the OTC.

Tic Toc




SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:11:59 AM

Re: jeffn post# 9393

Post # of 9397


Of course a no bid OTC stock could be shorted. Market makers do it all the time. It has been reported, not only by investors, but by the SEC in complaints filed against market makers and brokers who have been caught abusing the system.

Let the abusive shorts continue to do what they do. As investors and shareholders get more and more educated, there will be more consorted efforts to force short squeezes and buyins.

Good Luck!



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:36:54 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9389

Post # of 9397

Seven/Ten/Eleven: Every day increasing numbers of IHUB members are able to see through the landscape some have been working so hard to paint. With increasing numbers of educated investors the job of those trying to spread fear,doubt and uncertainty becomes much more difficult.
The shortman has had years to steal investors funds while regulators looked the other way. Those days are coming to an end. The pendulum is finally starting to swing back but it has a long way to go. When the Overstock discovery is released by the Judge the public will be enraged and when that happens we will see real change including the prosecutions we have been waiting for. Better days ahead for those who for years have been trying to clean up our markets.



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

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Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1479 2012-04-04 10:25:04

Bull Finch
Member
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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

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OldBen 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:29:30 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197560

Post # of 197604

Who is more conspiracy orientated towards FFGO? Who is more absolute in their thinking and more conspiracy orientated? Whether it is a supposed "scam" conspiracy or a supposed "NSS" conspiracy?

A person who says ALL claims of NSS in penny stocks are scams? A person who says ALL claims of NSS are designed to cover a pump and dump operation? A person who claims that there are NO proven (whatever that means) NSS in penny stocks. A person with omniscient knowledge that claims that there will NEVER EVER be a dividend in FFGO?

A person who claims that NSS exists in some companies across all exchanges to varying degrees by a hard examination of the evidence? A person who can be open to the possibility some level of impropriety in FFGO while at the same time see that this in no way effects the NSS one way or the other.

The absolute knowledge and piety that go with the "scam" belief appear much more conspiracy orientated than the NSS belief.



Jackroch 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:28:28 PM

Re: underdog150 post# 197578

Post # of 197604


Really?


Quote:
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Alan, please explain how these daily short numbers from yesterday
have almost every OTC/Pink listed as short:
http://regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20120402.txt
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You really think this is almost every OTC/Pink stock?



OldBen 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:42:53 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197585

Post # of 197604

There are pump and dumps and NSS. They both exist. Pump and dumps are more numerous and obvious in penny stocks than larger stocks. There is a lot of evidence of NSS in penny stocks. NSSing Penny stocks provide easier marks to prey upon who have less resources to repel the attack.



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:35:28 AM

Re: underdog150 post# 197578

Post # of 197604

underdog: You asked about thousands of stocks showing up short on the FINRA daily short list and yet not show up on the SHO list. The answer is simple, unlike FFGO they don't show up being over 50% of total volume day after day after day, month after month after month and year after year after year. This is what makes FFGO so unique, as over 90% of the total volume was reported by FINRA as short. Mind you FINRA has admitted their numbers if anything are understated and in fact recently fined both Credit Suisse and UBSS millions of dollars for mismarking thousands of trades as long trades when in fact they were short. Considering those facts it is very likely that all shares sold since FINRA began documenting short sales were in fact short. Every single share sold did not exist. That is why this thread is so active. Lots of money at stake here. Here are those numbers once again:

FINRA provides the evidence in black and white. Total volume traded for the day and the percentage of the total volume that were short sales. The numbers are staggering. Over 90% and
FINRA admits there numbers are on the low side. UBSS and Credit Suisse fined by regulators for mismarking short trades and calling them long. It is likely that every single share sold in the past two years did not exist. 100% short sales! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!

1,333,442.759/ 1,453,420,239 91.7% SHORT VOLUME for shares sold in 2011

regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20110324.txt
Total short volume since FINRA began publishing records in Nov. 2010:
1,774,250,838 short shares sold out of total volume of 2,018,993,454 or 87.9% of all shares sold were sold short!
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:44:42 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197590

Post # of 197604

As a shareholder I don't feel like management is hiding. They are following the plan they laid out to the letter. I can appreciate that those who are unable to escape their plan may be frustrated because there is no easy out for them but they will just have to suck it up.
I can appreciate that it is easier for us longs to wait because we know we are going to have a nice payday coming but that was the plan from the beginning and nothing has changed.
1 million shares =$3,449.00
10 million $34,449.00
100 million $344,490.00
1 billion $3,449,000.00

Yes I think we have a few shareholders that own a billion shares..
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3,400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:06:36 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 257

Post # of 258

He did not say was trading he said is able to trade. Comprende? When it trades you will know! Go SJCH!!!



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1480 2012-04-04 15:06:14

Bull Finch
Member
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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

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North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

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Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)

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Lebron23   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:41:19 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197620

Good Morning FFGO'ers!! I read the FAQ's again yesterday and am looking forward to a very large dividend in 2012!
I'm pleased to have acquired the number of shares I did before Dec. 2011.



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:55:41 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 197612

Post # of 197620

DIVIDEND IS STILL IN PLAY!

Claims that it has been canceled are nothing more than fantasies!

Good Luck!




Lebron23   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:04:17 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 7358

Post # of 7375

It did trade this morning. 350 shares. Not much. But it did trade.



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:02:57 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 7356

Post # of 7375

How does that work!

You said NMGL is revoked but yet it still trades!

Some thing is not correct here, I mean if the stock trades then it can't be revoked.

Why would you say NMGL was revoked when it isn't?

Were you just wrong about NMGL being revoked, or what?



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:13:39 PM

Re: Fire Lane post# 7348

Post # of 7375

Good News NMGL IS NOT OUT OF BUSINESS!


"NMGL ANNOUNCEMENT!, NMGL IS OUT OF BUSINESS"~Fire Lane



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:22:02 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 7361

Post # of 7375

NMGL - When they finally file with SEC, it will be interesting to watch the story develop!

Tic Toc



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:29:15 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7362

Post # of 7375

Today’s trade must be a wake up call!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:30:15 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 7363

Post # of 7375

NMGL - Will we see a filing this month?

Sure seems like there is concern for what management isn't revealing to those short.




Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:32:46 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7362

Post # of 7375

They've been telling us NMGL has been Revoked

I don't think I can believe them anymore!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:34:47 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 7365

Post # of 7375

NMGL - Wow! Fantasy claims of NMGL being revoked?

Funny, it sure doesn't look like that to me.

Oh well...

Guess it pays to do one's own DD and not listen to claims that have nothing to back them up.

Tic Toc



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:36:54 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7366

Post # of 7375

What other Fantasy claims have they told us?



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:39:07 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 7367

Post # of 7375

My favorite fantasy claim is that the dividend, regardless of all of the 8-K SEC filings, was never meant to be distributed to shareholders. A close second is that Lumb has confirmed this via some magical communication.

Still waiting for the physical proof of both claims.



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:43:25 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7368

Post # of 7375

Good luck on getting that fantasy physical proof of both claims!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:47:35 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 7369

Post # of 7375

I guess in fantasy land, no proof is needed to dispute what a company has filed with the SEC or has stated and provided to shareholders in communications.

Too bad shareholders and investors looking to sell long positions are required to have hard facts and documented proof to support any claims they make.

Tic Toc




Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:55:12 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7370

Post # of 7375

I guess in fantasy land, the fantasy is easier to swallow then truth for some!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:56:27 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 7371

Post # of 7375

I wouldn't want to be short on any of the sisters.

The principles have carefully protected shareholder interests. The principles are the largest shareholders. The rest of us are just going along for the ride!

Tic Toc



layton   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:00:03 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7372

Post # of 7375

I was short $4.00 to $1.00 It was a nice payday



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:23:44 PM

Re: layton post# 7373

Post # of 7375

Good thing you covered before the 8k!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:35:36 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 255

Post # of 263

Sorry! But the fact that brokers are allowing orders to be placed is proof that he stock is able to trade.

Good Luck!



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:06:36 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 257

Post # of 263

He did not say was trading he said is able to trade. Comprende? When it trades you will know! Go SJCH!!!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:55:01 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 259

Post # of 263

SJCH is a non trading stock - puppydotcom

SJCH is a tradable stock. Put a bid in and it sat open until I canceled it. Apparently no sellers willing to part with shares at the price I was offering.

Good Luck!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:19:33 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 261

Post # of 263

waiting for a filing from Mr Lumb telling me this is a trading stock..

until then

no trades will ever be made - puppydotcom

Waiting for a filing from NMGL or FFGO stating the dividend process was canceled.

until then...

no proof to support fantasy claims.

Dividend is still in play!

Good Luck!



stoprun   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:11:14 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197625

Shorties are sounding "Pathetic", div must be getting close.
Tic Toc, Tic Toc!!!!!



paunch13   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:16:57 PM

Re: stoprun post# 197625

Post # of 197626

STOPRUN,
I think you are right and I have heard some rumbling and it is not good news for shorty, It is now just a matter of time
John



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:53:50 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197630

FFGO - Dividend process must be back in play and may be ready to move forward.

Looking forward to 3449% ROI on dividend and possibly an additional 103.47% ROI on interest.

Tic Toc


Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:54:07 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7372

Post # of 7376

Fortress Financial Group, Inc. - Shareholder Update

August 27, 2010

"The Company is further aware of some very specious deliberations which have been propagated through chat rooms regarding the possibility that there have been no such efforts and there is no such exit forthcoming. At this time we would like to set the record straight by saying that such undue speculation is completely false and we would advise shareholders to ignore those who propagate unfounded nonsense. Quite simply, there is nothing more important to this Company than the successful conclusion of a highly profitable result from what has been a very difficult and time consuming labor to meet all the necessary requirements to effect this result. Furthermore, the Company and its majority shareholders have as much interest in obtaining this result as the smallest shareholder does. To imply that something else is the case is simply untruthful and misinformed."

Sincerely yours;



Peter J. Bezzano

CHAIRMAN



diamondguru-one   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:08:38 PM

Re: ctrumabll post# 197632

Post # of 197633

thanks for all your TRUE support on FFGO...your a real trooper thanks !!!! goooooo SUPER 8k filing !!!!



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Last edited by Bull Finch (2012-04-04 16:09:56)

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#1481 2012-04-04 20:53:35

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

Moderators:AlanC, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Texan77, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16265


Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)

Moderators:kazorchian, SevenTenEleven, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=24215



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:10:19 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197621

Post # of 197649

Fortress Financial Group, Inc. - Shareholder Update

August 27, 2010

"The Company is further aware of some very specious deliberations which have been propagated through chat rooms regarding the possibility that there have been no such efforts and there is no such exit forthcoming. At this time we would like to set the record straight by saying that such undue speculation is completely false and we would advise shareholders to ignore those who propagate unfounded nonsense. Quite simply, there is nothing more important to this Company than the successful conclusion of a highly profitable result from what has been a very difficult and time consuming labor to meet all the necessary requirements to effect this result. Furthermore, the Company and its majority shareholders have as much interest in obtaining this result as the smallest shareholder does. To imply that something else is the case is simply untruthful and misinformed."

Sincerely yours;



Peter J. Bezzano

CHAIRMAN



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:49:50 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197634

Post # of 197649

Mr. Bezzano certainly had things pegged. We are fortunate indeed that he designed and implemented a plan which rewards shareholders and costs the shortman significant financial pain. No escape for the shortman until after he has paid up! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:57:50 PM

Re: AlanC post# 197647

Post # of 197649

The unreported short man!

Read my posts from last NITE on how shorts could reset and never have to report.

How many shares are short for FFGO and not reported due to loopholes in the system?



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:08:30 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 7365

Post # of 7380

Understand BullFinch they want it to be revoked so badly that they think their wishes have become reality! lol Go NMGL!!!



AlanC

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:01:04 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 9408

Post # of 9416

We will need more jails for all the criminals that should be locked up!



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:35:22 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197653

Post # of 197654

waiting for the record date to be announced by the revoked, dissolved and abandoned FFGO and waiting for the super duper
extraordinary 8k from the abandoned NMGL stating the divvy is still on .. - puppydotcom

It is coming! Those short have no way out with retail not taking write downs.

Tic Toc




Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:17:35 PM

Re: AlanC post# 7380

Post # of 7385

I Hope they know Fantasy is not Reality!

But at this point they are lost, and they know it!


"Understand BullFinch they want it to be revoked so badly that they think their wishes have become reality! lol Go NMGL!!!"~AlanC



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:20:31 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7378

Post # of 7385

Here's the Key point "simply untruthful and misinformed."


Fortress Financial Group, Inc. - Shareholder Update

August 27, 2010

"The Company is further aware of some very specious deliberations which have been propagated through chat rooms regarding the possibility that there have been no such efforts and there is no such exit forthcoming. At this time we would like to set the record straight by saying that such undue speculation is completely false and we would advise shareholders to ignore those who propagate unfounded nonsense. Quite simply, there is nothing more important to this Company than the successful conclusion of a highly profitable result from what has been a very difficult and time consuming labor to meet all the necessary requirements to effect this result. Furthermore, the Company and its majority shareholders have as much interest in obtaining this result as the smallest shareholder does. To imply that something else is the case is simply untruthful and misinformed."

Sincerely yours;



Peter J. Bezzano

CHAIRMAN




Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:32:39 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7378

Post # of 7386

You've Played Poker haven’t you?

You never give your hand away in advance!


RoadLessTraveled
Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:20:25 PM
Re: AlanC post# 197647
Post # of 197650

Mr. Bezzano certainly had things pegged. We are fortunate indeed that he designed and implemented a plan which rewards shareholders and costs the shortman significant financial pain.

Alan, would you kindly explain what plan you are referring to?

If it's the dividend distribution, I would say that might cause shortman as much grief as when earlier dividends had been announced...which apparently was zero...grief, I mean.

If it's some kind of other plan to trap shortman, could you please provide a link to it? This is the only reference I can find (directly from the FFGO website...my link below) regarding Naked Shorting and it says nothing about any plan:

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ALLEGATIONS OF NAKED SHORT SELLING OF YOUR COMPANY’S STOCK:

Your Company’s Management is very aware of the numerous allegations of Naked Short Selling, a common complaint from “Penny Stock Bosses”. Despite numerous requests from our stockholders for your Company’s Management to address this issue, we take the view that these allegations of Naked Short Selling are unfounded and that there is absolutely no proof of Naked Short Selling in your Company’s stock.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


TIA

Reference: http://www.fortfinancegroup.com/faq.html



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:34:12 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7378

Post # of 7386

It goes back to that

Hook, Line and Sinker Thing!

The Shortman Really isn't too Smart!



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:35:25 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7378

Post # of 7386

Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:38:16 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197652

Post # of 197655

hey, maybe shorty ran off with the divvy? - puppydotcom

Shorty ran off with the spoon.

And he will need it to help dig himself out of this one.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:46:18 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7386

Post # of 7391

Filings coming!

Shorty can't cover unless retail shareholders write their shares down. Only way they will write their shares down is if they "believe" they are worthless.

Writing those assets down based upon misinformation may be something that the US Treasury Department would be high interested in.

Tic Toc



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:50:45 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7386

Post # of 7391

SevenTenEleven Version

From the Album "Little Criminals" (How appropriate!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvgLkuEtkA

The real short man's anthem!



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:57:28 PM

Re: None

Post # of 7391

To my Email hacker friend!

Keep trying we almost got you!



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:01:15 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7389

Post # of 7391

If you've been here as long as I have, it would be obvious to you also!



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:11:31 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 7392

Post # of 7393

I'm sorry but the learning curve is over with, if you haven't figured it out yet, I guess your coming up a bit Short!




Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:18:35 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 264

Post # of 265

So tell us, why has SJCH been reactivated?

After 4 years, tell us!



waveegravy   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:01:47 PM

Re: None

Post # of 1021

It was very quiet today for GNCP

A number of big board stocks sure got clobbered today, and still we see GNCP thin at this level with no real size in site.  We may have to reach up to find a decent position by the looks of things. News would be nice right about now.



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:30:40 PM

Re: Fire Lane post# 7348

Post # of 7394

Just in case you didn't hear,  NMGL IS NOT OUT OF BUSINESS!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:58:50 PM

Re: BigBake1 post# 9383


Post # of 9419

Maybe you should read that entire post again and actually read the referenced material which covers the reporting requirements for MMs in such transactions. - BigBake1

Claiming that every trade, which is marked short, is a member acting in behalf of another member is misleading and incorrect.

Also, the fact that short sales, included in the non-tape report, are not reported, or published, in the daily and monthly files, and may result in under-inclusive reporting of both sets of short data.

Ignoring these warnings and advisories by FINRA may be representative of intentionally being under-inclusive, in reporting all the fact,s and all possible "market making" scenarios.

How could a market maker short sell and not report on the daily list or the monthly list?

Just have a market maker act in your behalf. He sells short, and then you sell short to him to allow him to cover. It appears as if he has covered. And the remaining short interest position created by the non-tape short sale, does not have to be "published" for your short interest position.

Great system and one that is easily gamed!


Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
8 Certain OTC transactions (e.g., riskless principal and agency transactions where one member is acting on behalf of another member) are reported to FINRA in related tape and non-tape reports. Tape reports are submitted to FINRA for public dissemination by the appropriate exclusive Securities Information Processor (“SIP”), while non-tape reports are submitted to FINRA, but are not submitted to the SIP for public dissemination. FINRA will not be including non-tape reports in either the daily short sale volume file or the monthly short sale transaction file. Accordingly, in those instances where the short sale indicator is only included in the related non-tape report, the short sale data published in the daily and monthly files may be under-inclusive. Similarly, the published figures will not include odd lots since these transactions are not disseminated to the consolidated tape.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11 While members generally are required to report trades in equity securities to FINRA within 90 seconds, a firm could improperly delay reporting of short sales until well after the close, which would result in the under-reporting of over-the-counter short sale volume. Delaying the reporting of trades for such a purpose would be considered a violation of the applicable trade reporting rules and Rule 2010 (Standards of Commercial Honor and Principles of Trade).
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/finra/2009/34-60807.pdf


Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:05:07 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 266

Post # of 272

That's not what I asked you!

Why all of a sudden, after FOUR YEARS (4) is SJCH Reactivated!



cadillac107   

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:17:13 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 264

Post # of 272

There's no telling what one may uncover in the pink sheets. For example, thee are many small banks and transportation companies that prefer to remain unlisted. Many of these companies are very tightly held, and rarely does their stock become available to buy. Do to their inactivity, often times the spread between the bid and ask prices are very large. Some times one occasionally encounters a stock where there is only a bid price, and no offer price. This probably indicates that their is a buyer around trying to accumulate stock, and when ever shares become available, the market maker that is working with him, purchases the shares as soon as they become available for his account. If you should ever decide to accumulate a company like this, you could approach a broker dealer and ask if they could begin to make a market in the issue for you, as you hope to acquire a substantial position in the company. GLTU, and happy hunting.




Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:20:19 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 266

Post # of 272

I asked you WHY and you can't, or you don't want too!

You want to talk about what's next, and then you will want to talk about what is next after that!

What I want to know is after FOUR YEARS (4) why all of a Sudden, why now, is SJCH Reactivated!



Bull Finch 

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:46:03 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 270

Post # of 272

You say, "simple mistake by FINRA"

With that said I would think they would of deleted, or corrected that mistake by now, SJCH was Reactivated 02/29/2012. There are those who have a higher stake in all of this that would of pushed for that deletion the next day. But yet it is still here, looking at us daily waiting for that first trade, 8k, PR, or whatever action it will take to move it.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72735878

Strange how the web site Domain Name doesn't expire until 09/01/2012, and why was it updated 08/24/2011.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73907266


Domain Name:stjcapital.com
Record last updated at 2011-08-24 17:14:28
Record created on 9/1/2004
Record expired on 09/01/2012



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1482 2012-04-05 09:15:54

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

Moderators:AlanC, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Texan77, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16265


Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)

Moderators:kazorchian, SevenTenEleven, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=24215



laodiekanzhang   

Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:11:19 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197657

Post # of 197682

you know:

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LIQUIDATION DIVIDEND of .003427/share. Please make sure to review the PRs below AND also
MAKE SURE TO READ THE FAQs update on their website as of 9/8//10. The Company is now dormant and SILENT until they complete a list of items specified in the FAQs section. All shareholders are waiting for the Record Date for the NMGL Preferred A and B shares. For a recap, refer to the sticky note "TO SUM UP FFGO."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:07:14 AM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 197683

Exactly! Just the fact that the FFGO board is one of the more active IHUB boards proves that FFGO is far from gone. Nothing has changed, those who own shares continue to believe the liquidation dividend promised by the company will in fact be paid with most of the funds being paid by those that owe shares while those that owe shares continue to try and convince those who own shares that is not going to happen. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!




AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:10:02 AM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 197683

Molson: This is anything but done. The shortman is fighting numerous battles in this war BCIT and FFGO are but two of many. He is growing weaker and the army of those who own shares is growing stronger as it fully comprehends what it will take to defeat the shortman. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:42:22 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197657

Post # of 197683

Even the SEC warns investors of anonymous posters!

the SEC advises shareholders of unknown parties posting emails and
unverifiable opinions - puppydotcom


Fortress Financial Group, Inc. - Shareholder Update

August 27, 2010

"The Company is further aware of some very specious deliberations which have been propagated through chat rooms regarding the possibility that there have been no such efforts and there is no such exit forthcoming. At this time we would like to set the record straight by saying that such undue speculation is completely false and we would advise shareholders to ignore those who propagate unfounded nonsense. Quite simply, there is nothing more important to this Company than the successful conclusion of a highly profitable result from what has been a very difficult and time consuming labor to meet all the necessary requirements to effect this result. Furthermore, the Company and its majority shareholders have as much interest in obtaining this result as the smallest shareholder does. To imply that something else is the case is simply untruthful and misinformed."

Sincerely yours;



Peter J. Bezzano

CHAIRMAN


AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 8:16:57 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197664

Post # of 197683

Thanks for refreshing the comments made by our chairman some time ago.
Those words of wisdom to ignore the claims made by anonymous posters on the message boards are important. Many many untrue claims have been and are being made here daily. To reread that statement made by the Chairman of the company we invested in long ago is time well spent. Thanks for the post. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



paunch13   

Thursday, April 05, 2012 8:32:14 AM

Re: AlanC post# 197665

Post # of 197684

AlanC
Anyone can say just about anything without proof and cause some to believe them but without any proof it means nothing. I believe this will be all over the moment they announce the pay date and it has been a long time but where are we going to go,
John



AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:38:32 AM

Re: ohlaws post# 197673

Post # of 197684

Let me ask you, do you expect the shorts to admit they have shorted billions of shares and that is why they are here 24/7 trying to convince those who own shares that they were ripped off? Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:49:07 AM

Re: ohlaws post# 197678

Post # of 197684

The dividend was announced as a liquidating dividend paid at the rate of .00349 per share. In the same announcement it stated that the record and payment date would be forthcoming in a Super 8K filing once all conditions to the sale had been met. While the company could not state how long that would take the company was confidant that shareholders would be pleased once accomplished.
The company was correct, this shareholder will be very pleased.
1 million shares = $3,449.00
10 million =$34,449.00
100 million =$344,490.00
1 billion =$3,444,900.00

Receipt of the dividend is going to make this shareholder very very happy! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3,400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 8:53:20 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 7397

Post # of 7399


Love that post, thanks 7/10/11! Go NMGL!!!




AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:02:59 AM

Re: Bull Finch post# 265

Post # of 274

Could it be to cause those short nightmares? If so it seems to have accomplished its goal. Go SJCH!!!



Bull Finch 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:53:09 AM

Re: AlanC post# 274

Post # of 275

Not the Good Old Days for The Shortman!

A hard pill to swallow for The Shortman, knowing that the End is near.

The End is Near for The Shortman!

Mass Arrests of 10,000 Global Cabal Members - 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKhTUU35X4&featu


http://www.scoop.it/t/hidden-financial-system/p/1539310485/new-updated-list-resignations-total-760

Your White Knight guys are saying 760 Resignations.

http://thankyouwhiteknights.blogspot.com/2012/04/760-mass-resignations-now.html



Lebron23   

Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:49:01 AM

Re: ctrumabll post# 197674

Post # of 197688

The only one on a Death Bed is Shorty!!!!
And, it's not going to take 40 years to get him.
This silent period that management has imposed is to operate unencumbered and deliver the dividend.
In my opinion, management knew the dividend could take some time and that was the reason they issued the extensive Q & A posting to their website. Why else go through the effort of issuing the Q & A information?
Looking forward to the Super 8-K and dividend from NMGL/FFGO!!!!!!!!!!




AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:50:59 AM

Re: Bull Finch post# 275

Post # of 276

I agree that the shortman's days are numbered but it is truly the best thing that could happen for America and the world. For America to allow these criminals to operate with impunity is devastating to its reputation. Think of the good that will result from the death of the shortman's criminal operation. Trillions of dollars stolen and hidden untaxed offshore will return to honest investors hands. Those investors will stimulate the economy, create jobs, help those who could use a helping hand and willingly pay taxes. Think of the benefits to the companies that have been abused by these criminals? Granted we will see some folks go from riches to rags and no doubt quite a few will be prosecuted but that is what makes America the greatest country on this planet. Good always prevails over evil although good at times is frustratingly slow in arriving. Finally, we are close to seeing what good is able to accomplish, we have seen way too much evil. Go SJCH!!!



Lebron23   

Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:00:54 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197689

Post # of 197696

NMGL/FFGO Mega Dividend Locked & Loaded!!



Lebron23   

Thursday, April 05, 2012 12:02:25 PM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 197697

Evidence of NSS vis-a-vis FFGO has been thoroughly documented by posters to the board for over two years now.



puppydotcom 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 1:22:04 PM

Re: overachiever post# 273

Post # of 278

105 shares @ .25 each...a whopping $26.25 total!

that was me, I NSS it back then

lol




RoadLessTraveled   

Thursday, April 05, 2012 1:36:10 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 277

Post # of 278

that was me, I NSS it back then

puppy, you're such a liar! All this time, you have been claiming that you can't short because you haven't found a broker willing to do it reasonably for you. Now you finally slip up and admit it?

BUSTED!!!!

(Note to iHub powers: I am being facetious)


 
5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1483 2012-04-05 09:31:10

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Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Bancorp International Group Inc (fka BCIT)

Moderators:weebie, allezlOM, f1fans, camper9, AlexI, CarltonH

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3879




mastaflash

Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:41:27 PM

Re: janice shell post# 149989

Post # of 150017

You love scams. Scams are $ to you, because you know how to find them, dd them, and then sell that info to those who can profit. If I could short pennies, I'd follow you around like a puppy dog...and I would gladly pay for heads up info. I have used your 'skills' to avoid trouble...your appearance on a board is a sell signal for me...and I thank you for that....it's all cool...by why pretend you are anti-scam, when in fact you love everything about them and would be out of pocket if they ever ceased to be? Not sure what your angle is here, but 'interesting story' of course has nothing to do with it, imo.


5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1484 2012-04-05 18:47:35

Bull Finch
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Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

DHS Holding Co. (DHSM)

Moderators:Admiral Lagrange, SevenTenEleven, goodolboy, Trading4cash, rekcusdoo

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=7860



bigred1 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:33:11 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24324

Post # of 24341

Here we go , toss another turd in the pool., your good at that. I don't think you are scaring any one thou.Good luck with that.



bigred1 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:30:06 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24322

Post # of 24347

7- when does the short list come out for the day? Should be interesting.



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:31:53 PM

Re: bigred1 post# 24325

Post # of 24348

DHSM - SHort Volume for April 5th - 0.3%

20120405|DHSM|600|0|195522|O



janice shell 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:34:09 PM

Re: bigred1 post# 24327

Post # of 24348

I'm merely saying what would be the case if the action you described took place.

Guess you were wrong about that short volume.



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:35:00 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24324

Post # of 24349

DHSM - Closed at $1.02. Someone bought 195K shares today at $0.40. Cleared out all offers at $0.42 and $0.45. There was nothing between the $0.40's and $1.02. I would expect a move from $1.02 to $2 to be just as quick.



neophyte184 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:36:33 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24324

Post # of 24349

How's about 190K shares picked up at an average of 40 cents a share.

You don't find someone picking up $76,000.00 worth of DHSM as indicative of something significant brewing when the average daily shares traded over the past few weeks is roughly 10K shares?!!

I really don't care what information they are trading on, the point is something is GOING to happen! LOL

If I were you, I would grab some first thing Monday...That is what I plan to do.

GLTY,

Neo



janice shell 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:36:55 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24329

Post # of 24349

Look again:

http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=trades&symbol=DHSM

Really hard to say whether the trades at 0.40 were buys or sells. But they were at the bid.



janice shell 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:38:31 PM

Re: neophyte184 post# 24330

Post # of 24350

And if those trades were sells? I can think of far better reasons to sell this stock than to buy it.

Probably insiders can, too.



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:41:34 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24331

Post # of 24350

SOMEONE BOUGHT nearly 200K shares. I am assuming the bid was $0.40 when the trades were going off. Nearly $80K in "interest" demonstrated today for this stock.

This will return to $2 fairly quickly , IMO. Back to levels from which shorts manipulated if down from.

From $2, it is anyone's guess of how high it can go.

Will depend upon a number of factors.

Good Luck!



janice shell 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:43:01 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24333

Post # of 24350

You would be correct. The trades went off at 0.40. The bid was 0.40. So I really don't see why you assume they were buys.



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:53:01 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24334

Post # of 24350

You would be correct. The trades went off at 0.40. The bid was 0.40. So I really don't see why you assume they were buys. - janice shell

Hmmmm??? Let me think for a second...

I got it!

Someone bought nearly 200K shares at $0.40 today!

If they didn't buy nearly 200K, the person selling would not have sold at $0.40!

Let you in on a little secret...

There are two sides to every trade, a buy and a sell.

Trades that go off at the bid, are tracked as "sells" and trades that go off at the ask are tracked as "buys".

A bid is an offer to "buy" and an ask is an offer to "sell".

More important to me as a shareholder is the bid strength (the offer levels to BUY shares). I could care less if the trades were all reported as "sells", as long as the bid continues to strengthen and move up.

If on Monday this moves to a bid of $2, and all of the trades were marked as sells, I wouldn't give a rat's @$$!

Market makers who like to naked short sell hate when bids stack! They love it when buyers hit the ask and they are able to naked short sell to them. Then "they" are able to cover at the bid when the buying pressure stops because "they" have flooded the market with more inventory than demand.

Stack those bids!

Good Luck!



janice shell 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:10:08 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24335

Post # of 24350

Christ on a crutch.



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:13:09 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24336

Post # of 24350

That is what I would expect.

Bid strength is key to a stock moving up.

Bid EQUALS BUYING STRENGTH!

Good Luck!



janice shell 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:14:16 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24337

Post # of 24350

LOLOL!! When the spread is 0.40 x 1.02?? What you've got is serious illiquidity.




SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:16:03 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24338

Post # of 24350

Let those short worry about illiquidity!

Good Luck!



neophyte184 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:50:12 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24332

Post # of 24350

But every sell is a buy, you know that! That's quite a departure from the normal trading volume. If you don't see that as a buy signal, I can't help that.

GLTY,

Neo



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:55:41 PM

Re: neophyte184 post# 24340

Post # of 24350

DHSM - Monday should be interesting. Have a feeling someone is going to chew into the ask to get as much as possible ahead of Pink Current status.

It will not take much to chew through the sells (which will be reported as BUYS...LOL) and get the PPS back up to $2 where the manipulative shorts marched it down from.



Bull Finch 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:09:22 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24338

Post # of 24350

It's always something isn't it!



Bull Finch 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:10:41 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24338

Post # of 24350

How could you allow this to happen,

I thought you had things under control here!



Bull Finch 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:11:38 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24338

Post # of 24350

This will not look good on your résumé!



Bull Finch 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:17:24 PM

Re: None

Post # of 24350

Looks like the Kingpins Kingdom is Crumbling!



neophyte184 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:22:41 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24341

Post # of 24350

I'm with ya Seven. Monday could get very interesting....I'm thinking a nice PR for the week ahead with who knows what kind of news?! Valuation, pink current...the sky's the limit....

Can't wait!



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:29:32 PM

Re: neophyte184 post# 24346

Post # of 24350

Valuation, Pink Current, financials, and sales projections, IMO. These are the items the company should be informing investors about.



neophyte184

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:31:46 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24347

Post # of 24350

Yes, the excitement will build as to market share in the new sector. Let the games begin!



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:32:52 PM

Re: neophyte184 post# 24348

Post # of 24350

Company has been very wise in being quiet, IMO. They control their own destiny. Us small time investors are just along for the ride.



neophyte184 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:34:42 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24349

Post # of 24351

This isn't their first rodeo...They know how to makes us long investors smile quite wide in the end. Allegiance has its benefits.



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1485 2012-04-05 22:16:10

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Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111




GNCC Capital, Inc. (GNCP)

Moderators:SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Bull Finch, vladimirr

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3731


diamondguru-one   

Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:58:21 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197701

Post # of 197718

naaah, just company's laying people off.....tic toc



OldBen 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:41:37 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197704

Post # of 197718

Because you have a "uk" (United Kingdom??) in your avitar, we should believe that you speak with Lumb??



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 8:38:44 PM

Re: uk peter1 post# 197708

Post # of 197718

Dont speak to Lumb!! He replied to my Emails!
You believe facts....fact is they done NOTHING!!
Fact is THEY DO NOT WANT my Bouse/Copperstone div shares!

You draw your own facts then from that!!?

To me means we all hucked!! Sadly!!

Group together ...get FBI involved!! - uk peter1

Lumb is not an officer or executive of FFGO. Doesn't matter what is claimed he says.

BTW, company warned investors not to believe claims not supported by the company.

Good Luck!



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:44:50 PM

Re: diamondguru-one post# 197705

Post # of 197718

Even the SEC warns investors of anonymous posters!

the SEC advises shareholders of unknown parties posting emails and
unverifiable opinions - puppydotcom


Fortress Financial Group, Inc. - Shareholder Update

August 27, 2010

"The Company is further aware of some very specious deliberations which have been propagated through chat rooms regarding the possibility that there have been no such efforts and there is no such exit forthcoming. At this time we would like to set the record straight by saying that such undue speculation is completely false and we would advise shareholders to ignore those who propagate unfounded nonsense. Quite simply, there is nothing more important to this Company than the successful conclusion of a highly profitable result from what has been a very difficult and time consuming labor to meet all the necessary requirements to effect this result. Furthermore, the Company and its majority shareholders have as much interest in obtaining this result as the smallest shareholder does. To imply that something else is the case is simply untruthful and misinformed."

Sincerely yours;



Peter J. Bezzano

CHAIRMAN



AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:55:18 PM

Re: digger1 post# 1024

Post # of 1031

FINRA short sales reported today for GNCP

20120405|GNCP|124800|0|192400|O

64.9% of total volume today was short sales.
Go GNCP!!!



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:58:46 PM

Re: AlanC post# 1026

Post # of 1031

GNCP - WOW! Shorts just keep digging! Pretty soon they will either be to China, or strike gold!

Tic Toc



AlanC

Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:11:32 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1027

Post # of 1031

I think the shortman's days are numbered. So many companies are now turning the tables on the shortman he is going to get nailed badly. Once the first one nails him then it will be one after another and the rats will be jumping ship and trying to make deals to avoid prison time.
Gotta give the devil his due though he had a good run. Go GNCP!!!



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:43:00 PM

Re: AlanC post# 1028

Post # of 1031

Would love to see Gary Wendt in charge of cleaning up the naked short selling that has plagued the equity markets for at least the past 15 years. IF NOT MORE!

GNCP is seeing volume and there isn't a single investor awareness campaign going on.

I guess the principles send smoke signals to investors. lol!

Days are numbered for those manipulating with naked short selling.



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:59:39 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 1030

Post # of 1032

shorts alway short bad stocks .. whats so strange about that? - puppydotcom

Shorts shorting multiples of what is available to short is the problem.

GNCP is steadily moving up.

Tic Toc



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1486 2012-04-06 09:36:02

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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



wrenchman 

Friday, April 06, 2012 10:00:47 AM

Re: None

Post # of 197736

I believe a and b are done as in these filings look at whose name is on them same as FFGO and was not always that way.I found this a while ago it used to say Stephen Lumb i seen his name there and that was about a year or so ago.So the Solicitor(Pete Bezzano)is already in control of the deal and has possession of Bouse and S.Copperstone ,whith that said the rest should be no problem we just have to wait.Minions do not come to me with the delinquent status as that is nothing but a few dollars and couple forms,Over and out!!!!


https://wyobiz.wy.gov/Business/FilingDetails.aspx?FilingNum=2008-000549096

https://wyobiz.wy.gov/Business/FilingDetails.aspx?FilingNum=2008-000549092


This Dividend will not be declared until NMGL has (a) acquired the balance of the Bouse Gold, Inc. shares of common stock giving them 100% ownership of Bouse Gold, Inc. through the issue of additional NMGL Preferred Series “A” shares (b) acquired the balance of the South Copperstone, Inc. shares of common stock giving them 100% ownership of South Copperstone, Inc. through the issue of additional NMGL Preferred Series “B” shares (c) audited both Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. (d) NMGL will be required to file a “Super Form 8-K with SEC upon their obtaining control of both Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. (e) filed a Registration Statement with the SEC in respect of the NMGL Preferred Series “A” and Series “B” shares (f) such Registration Statement has become effective (g) obtained a CUSIP Number and a Trading Symbol for both the NMGL Preferred Series “A” and the Series “B” shares and (h) admitted the NMGL Preferred Series “A” and Series “B” shares for trading on a recognized exchange.



SevenTenEleven 

Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:44:50 PM

Re: diamondguru-one post# 197705

Post # of 197736

Even the SEC warns investors of anonymous posters!

the SEC advises shareholders of unknown parties posting emails and
unverifiable opinions - puppydotcom


Fortress Financial Group, Inc. - Shareholder Update

August 27, 2010

"The Company is further aware of some very specious deliberations which have been propagated through chat rooms regarding the possibility that there have been no such efforts and there is no such exit forthcoming. At this time we would like to set the record straight by saying that such undue speculation is completely false and we would advise shareholders to ignore those who propagate unfounded nonsense. Quite simply, there is nothing more important to this Company than the successful conclusion of a highly profitable result from what has been a very difficult and time consuming labor to meet all the necessary requirements to effect this result. Furthermore, the Company and its majority shareholders have as much interest in obtaining this result as the smallest shareholder does. To imply that something else is the case is simply untruthful and misinformed."

Sincerely yours;



Peter J. Bezzano

CHAIRMAN



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, April 06, 2012 3:37:27 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 197721

Post # of 197736

Company stated that it was their opinion that there was not a naked short position. Naked short positions are not reported. Also, there are many loopholes in the daily and monthly short reports that allow for possible under reporting or nonreporting.

If the company is referencing the monthly data, not only has the monthly data been possibly underreported, but the monthly data has been MIA for FFGO since the company stated their opinion.

The daily short volume has demonstrated an overly aggressive pattern of short selling.

If there wasn't a large unreported short interest position, market makers and broker dealers responsible for the liability wouldn't be so concerned.

Good Luck!




kazorchian   

Friday, April 06, 2012 8:57:09 AM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 197737

rumblings??? What was rumbled about?



AlanC

Friday, April 06, 2012 9:16:41 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197728

Post # of 197737

I agree all the NSS is coming to an end. The shortman and the regulators are facing exposure on all fronts. Many many companies have designed plans to bury the shortman and several of those are presently in the works. The shortman will no longer be able to count on captured regulators to bail them out of these situations as had been the case in the past. Those regulators now realize their reputations, careers and freedom are in jeopardy. Whistleblowers are stepping up to the plate. Lots of prosecutions coming and a huge transfer of wealth. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Friday, April 06, 2012 9:22:23 AM

Re: uk peter1 post# 197730

Post # of 197737

uk peter1: IMHO the deal is done, you just have to wait like the rest of us for it to unfold. Do you really think anyone is going to give out inside information to you or anyone else. C'mon use your common sense. We are all captured and locked in both longs and shorts and there is no escape until the Super 8K is filed as promised. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 12:02:47 PM

Re: None

Post # of 7403

You are correct

we wanted nothing to do with NSS! But it was thrust upon us by the Criminals. As Shareholders we have no choice but to Defend our interests, our investment, against the Criminals and those that SUPPORT the Criminals!

Look around, you don't have to look very far, many Criminals are being brought before the courts for market manipulation.

I'm glad, I'm on the right side of the Law, the questions is, Who’s Next!


"What about a shareholder who wants nothing to do with a prolonged NSS battle (as is always the case) and just wants a return on his or her money, based on what a company has said? To find out years later (and after the company has been revoked) that FFGO was just "bluffing" about no NSS would be the basis of an open & shut court case."


5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1487 2012-04-06 09:45:33

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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Bancorp International Group Inc (fka BCIT)

Moderators:weebie, allezlOM, f1fans, camper9, AlexI, CarltonH

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3879


NSS ~ Counterfeiting Stock ~ MM Games Played

Moderator:fourkids_9petsAssistants:XenaLives, camper9, SevenTenEleven, ThePennyGuru, dehydratedman

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=18322


AlanC

Friday, April 06, 2012 6:36:26 AM

Re: AlanC post# 9423

Post # of 9427

BCIT Informs Shareholders of Important Action They Must Take in the Next Few Days

BCIT informs Investors to expect a letter from Broadridge in the next few days. This follows the uncovering of major discrepancies between shares declared to Broadridge by Brokers and those believed to have been purchased by Investors.
Email PDF Print .
Carson City, NV (PRWEB) April 06, 2012

BCIT is informing all shareholders that they should be looking for a letter, sent on behalf of BCIT, from Broadridge in the days ahead. The company has just acquired the official NOBO and OBO lists from Broadridge and has authorized this mailing. This request, from Tom Megas, is to assist in Carlton Huxley’s continuing efforts to resolve several issues which they have uncovered through their forensic investigations. Carlton Huxley’s exhaustive efforts have uncovered several major discrepancies in the shares officially registered, and those held by actual shareholders.

The letter will provide a simple, inexpensive way for BCIT shareholders to provide proof of their BCIT holdings. Those shareholders, who have already provided Carlton Huxley with their BCIT share counts and other pertinent information, will not need to do so again.

Helping BCIT, and Carlton Huxley, will help you, the shareholder, see a positive completion to this investigation; but you need to help everyone to achieve this.

BCIT, Tom Megas, and Carlton Huxley thank all shareholders for their continued support through this important phase of the company’s resurgence.

Tom Megas

President & CEO

Bancorp International Group Inc
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9356112.htm

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74123130

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74122770



Iluvbbs   

Friday, April 06, 2012 2:20:44 PM

Re: Mrktman57 post# 150142

Post # of 150148

Quote:
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i'll trade you mine right now for .10 a share. i'll have to give you an IOU for the certs on the condition that you get them when i get them. 8^)
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You might be onto something here. Consider this?? What IS to stop us from offering "blocks" of our shares to the public as IOU's just as the brokers did us, on condition that everyone gets certs when they come available??

I mean, why would it NOT be... considering there are "ticket" type sales (concert, theater, etc) that are sold on public venues like Eb*Y and Craigsl*st well in advance of when the physical "tickets" actually become available. Those are excellent examples of buyer and seller coming together and the buyer PRE-paying the seller for an item that the seller can not deliver till a certain date.

In our case here, brokers sold shares even after the KNOWN supply of shares (TICKETS) was exhausted. They counted on BCIT going belly-up due to supplying SO many shares (tickets) that the limitless supply of "thin-air" shares would drive the bid/ask quotes on a daily/minute to minute basis back to .0001. They COUNTED on this because those of us here who have many years of trading in the penny's have seen it happen time and time again.

If this happened in the concert world, the best analogy I can think of is woodstock 1969 where Michael Lang had 50,000 tickets printed for a 3 day event but 500,000 customers showed up simply because they ALL were under the impression (by sellers, think brokers) that they individually were one of the FIRST 50,000 ticket holders.
Promises were made by ticket sellers (WILL CALL window at ANY event) to buyers who mailed in their untraceable US currency (cash) with the promise their tickets would be available (think BCIT Certs) and upon arrival to the venue quickly realized they had been lied to.

Michael Lang soon realizing the GIG was up, tried to preserve his own @$$ from going to jail for the rest of his life in part due to being sued by 500,000 people, made an announcement that it was now a "free" concert. What else could he do?? The brokers are ALL going to want immunity when the SH*T really hits the fan here.

Michael Lang was sued by thousands of people and they did win judgements against him but as you all know he was "forgiven" for some of his actions IF for no other reason, so much time had pasted (concert time to trial time) that some people let by-gones be by-gones. It was a different time back then. There were no instant communications like there are today. Things in general, were a lot slower and calmer.

What the brokers have done to us, in concert with their puppet-masters, for the past 7 years IS criminal. There were NO mistakes here like "just trying to make a market". The "plan" to TANK the company had worked SO MANY times before during the previous 5 to 10 years of online trading in pennies, it was just "business as usual" when it came to tanking the price of BCIT.

But now, due to the extraordinary efforts of forensic dissection, I honestly believe the brokers and their puppet masters are going to be taken to task. I honestly do not care if this case is the first of many that exposes the incredible level of corruption at work in federal and state agency's.

TRUST in our brokers will never come back to the investing public until more people come on board like CH and TM to stop it. But if enough of them did it might actually set a good course for the rest of our country.

Of course, everything written is JMHO and what I have read for myself.
Best to all, Steve




5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

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#1488 2012-04-06 12:47:44

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Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

Moderators:AlanC, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Texan77, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16265


Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)

Moderators:kazorchian, SevenTenEleven, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=24215



Lebron23   

Friday, April 06, 2012 11:50:20 AM

Re: None

Post # of 197756

Looking forward to the Super 8-K and dividend from NMGL/FFGO!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Good Friday to everyone....have a nice weekend!!



kazorchian   

Friday, April 06, 2012 12:10:54 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 197746

Post # of 197756

Happy Good Friday to you as well. Go FFGO !!



SevenTenEleven 

Friday, April 06, 2012 1:00:55 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 197746

Post # of 197756

Dividend Coming! Those short know their time to close out open short interest is short!

Tic Toc



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 12:02:47 PM

Re: None

Post # of 7403

You are correct

we wanted nothing to do with NSS! But it was thrust upon us by the Criminals. As Shareholders we have no choice but to Defend our interests, our investment, against the Criminals and those that SUPPORT the Criminals!

Look around, you don't have to look very far, many Criminals are being brought before the courts for market manipulation.

I'm glad, I'm on the right side of the Law, the questions is, Who’s Next!


"What about a shareholder who wants nothing to do with a prolonged NSS battle (as is always the case) and just wants a return on his or her money, based on what a company has said? To find out years later (and after the company has been revoked) that FFGO was just "bluffing" about no NSS would be the basis of an open & shut court case." ~RoadLessTraveled




SevenTenEleven 

Friday, April 06, 2012 12:06:15 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 279

Post # of 294

Ha, but back in the old days .. I could NSS all the pennies I wanted. I made a pile of money shorting SJCH


The public traders Naked Shorting Scammy pennies ( NSSP ) is awesome and well worth the wait! - puppydotcom

Illegal naked short selling days for broker/dealers and market makers are coming to an end.

Those holding open NSS and ex-clearing generated FTD's will be settling with shareholders to close out their ill-gotten gains.

Looks as if the principles of all of these mining companies are about to file and distribute dividends.

No need to worry for those claiming that there is no naked short interest. Or is there?

Tic Toc


Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 12:21:58 PM

Re: JammingJAY post# 282

Post # of 294

Is this what you are referring too?

"Did you forget your exchange with Janice Shell on the DD board or just sandbagging?"

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72840168

Lumb Groupies take many shapes, and sizes!


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Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 12:23:07 PM

Re: JammingJAY post# 282

Post # of 294

Or this one?

"Did you forget your exchange with Janice Shell on the DD board or just sandbagging?"

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72852055


enlightened1

PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST moves this company could make. But do not expect instant riches. It will take time and also much is going to happen in the general market over the next months.

First let me say that my son is one of the top corporate lawyers in London and the UK. Though young, he is the legal director of a large international health company. I asked him about 'St James' and he said that it is a smallish but 'clean' company. Nothing 'unsavoury' is known of Bazzano who is also a youngish man (39).

I have more info which I will pass in other posts. Too much at once is overkill.

Why do I say it is one of the best moves? Because the Financial sector is a great one to be in. There is great growth potential in this fledgling area of 'prepaid debit and credit cards'. The US is the most advanced so far in this business (though it is spreading world wide) and confines its own companies, due to the Patriot Act, to its nationals and those with established USA addresses.

The new company acquired will probably be introduced as an ADR (American Depository Receipt) and will be on the OTC. (JMHO)

There will probably also be something in the share exchange/distribution which will reduce the number of shares held by GWGO holders. The danger here is that if this increases the actual price of the share in the new company(this will not be
an increased value to current holders in real terms) that it will be seen as an opportunity for short sellers to enter the market.

I think naked shorting is seeing the end of its 'happy days' as
it is getting a lot of serious attention recently sending a strong message. However, nothing changes overnight.

This sort of business is more in keeping with the main company -
St James Capital Holdings which owns St James Resource Management. Bezzano has had a lot of experience in acquisitions.

It appears, so far, the company has serious ambitions and wants to be focused in what it does best(hence divesting itself of its PM holdings) at the same time concentrating on an area it knows and fits in with its core business.

Bazzano has had no part in GWGO's past business activities, including acquisitions.

So, we have to forget its past, and look with hope to the future.

The King is dead, long live the King (as we Brits say)

Fingers crossed.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=19260593&txt2find=ST.|James|Holding

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72333074



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 1:03:16 PM

Re: JammingJAY post# 290

Post # of 294

You are Quoting janice Here, but nice try!


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72838945


janice shell

Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:33:17 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 22882

Post # of 24189

It does seem to have been a mistake.

Lumb was very surprised to hear of it.

I doubt they'll be able to buy any SJCH at all, even if it continues to be minimally public. Stephen controls the stock.



"This was the post I was referring too...


Quote:
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It does seem to have been a mistake.

Lumb was very surprised to hear of it.

I doubt they'll be able to buy any SJCH at all, even if it continues to be minimally public. Stephen controls the stock.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



By your replies to me I guess it won't matter anyways.

Also I assume you have no idea how the website you referenced came to be.

Carry on."~JammingJay

 


Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 1:23:43 PM

Re: JammingJAY post# 290

Post # of 294

I have heard the so called story!

"Also I assume you have no idea how the website you referenced came to be."~JammingJay

It's heart warming to see janice shell, and Stephen C. Lumb in business together, don't you think?

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72840168




Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 1:28:01 PM

Re: JammingJAY post# 290

Post # of 294

Here's something else you may of missed!


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72840328

Bull Finch

Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:04:41 PM

Re: janice shell post# 22891

Post # of 24189

So what’s up with the dates!

The date Denver54 made that post at CMKX is also the last date you posted at FFGO.

I guess just coincidence, and happenstance!


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56837745

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5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1489 2012-04-06 16:24:29

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Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Bancorp International Group Inc (fka BCIT)

Moderators:weebie, allezlOM, f1fans, camper9, AlexI, CarltonH

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3879

April 6th PR:

BCIT Informs Shareholders of Important Action They Must Take in the Next Few Days

BCIT informs Investors to expect a letter from Broadridge in the next few days. This follows the uncovering of major discrepancies between shares declared to Broadridge by Brokers and those believed to have been purchased by Investors.

Carson City, NV (PRWEB) April 06, 2012

BCIT is informing all shareholders that they should be looking for a letter, sent on behalf of BCIT, from Broadridge in the days ahead. The company has just acquired the official NOBO and OBO lists from Broadridge and has authorized this mailing. This request, from Tom Megas, is to assist in Carlton Huxley’s continuing efforts to resolve several issues which they have uncovered through their forensic investigations. Carlton Huxley’s exhaustive efforts have uncovered several major discrepancies in the shares officially registered, and those held by actual shareholders.

The letter will provide a simple, inexpensive way for BCIT shareholders to provide proof of their BCIT holdings. Those shareholders, who have already provided Carlton Huxley with their BCIT share counts and other pertinent information, will not need to do so again.

Helping BCIT, and Carlton Huxley, will help you, the shareholder, see a positive completion to this investigation; but you need to help everyone to achieve this.

BCIT, Tom Megas, and Carlton Huxley thank all shareholders for their continued support through this important phase of the company’s resurgence.

Tom Megas

President & CEO

Bancorp International Group Inc

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9356112.htm



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:05:29 PM

Re: None

Post # of 150187

OBO, NOBO, HOBO! IF I ONLY GET THE NOBO LIST THAT WILL BE GREAT! I WILL THEN BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY NOBO SHARES WERE SOLD BECAUSE THAT IS THE LIST OF THE SHARES THE BROKERS SOLD! THE OBO'S CAN GO PLAY WITH THE HOBO'S! GREAT WORK CH AND TM! THIS WILL CREATE ABOUT 300 POSTS A DAY AROUND HERE!



mastaflash 

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:14:56 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150150

Post # of 150188

The company has just acquired the official NOBO and OBO lists from Broadridge - We will see who is right.



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:16:24 PM

Re: NI43-101 Or Bust post# 150160

Post # of 150189

This is what is so unique about this naked short position in BCIT. No where in the past has a single entity with CH's investigative prowless been able to get all of the shareholders of a single company who has been wronged by the brokers grouped together as one fighting machine against the brokers. I believe now the brokers are starting to see the pressures against them for all their BS individual reply's to individual shareholders that have now all been accumulated in one spot. Now the brokers are realizing that one answer to one shareholder differs to another shareholder and on and on and on! In the past all they have had to do is to put out some BS about something that sounds good and now they are realizing they may of just opened up a legal issue upon themselves for all the different stories they have put out because of the inexperience of their own customer service people! This will come to a head soon! Either we will start trading unexpectedly or the brokers will offer settlements on an individual basis! JMHO



mastaflash 

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:18:34 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150155

Post # of 150190

There is no OBO list.
Broadridge is not permitted to disclose those shareholders that are objecting beneficial owners. We can, however, provide Issuers with OBO information in reference to the number of shareholders and the total share amount they hold.



mastaflash

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:24:15 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150167

Post # of 150190

lol.....great minds....however, you are missing something...Broadridge can send a letter on behalf of BCIT to ALL shareholders. Those OBOs can then contact the company. Picture complete.



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:24:45 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150166

Post # of 150190

Like I said, I want the NOBO list to see how many shares the brokers sold and then by adding the OBO numbers (I don't need to know who they are) will make a final tally of the total shares sold by the brokers and issued in certificate form! THAT IS ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS THE FINAL TOTAL! IT WILL FINALLY PUT AN END TO ALL THE BS ABOUT BACK AND FORTH TRADING ETC ETC ETC!!



mastaflash 

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:25:58 PM

Re: Sprycel post# 150169

Post # of 150190

Indeed. If the majority of OBOs supply CH with info, picture will be complete.




mastaflash

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:27:27 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150171

Post # of 150190

You are in exact contradiction with what the PR says. A week or two will tell the tale.




mastaflash 

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:29:58 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150171

Post # of 150190

The company cannot communicate directly with OBOs,11 so all communications with OBOs must be made through the relevant intermediary. Over 75 percent of customers holding shares in street name are OBOs,

...I assume Broadridge has their names and addresses, otherwise, how could they be contacted?


http://www.sec.gov/comments/s7-14-10/s71410-22.pdf



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:33:46 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150173

Post # of 150192

What happens if the insiders, like Megas, allow their information to be provided to the shareholders as part of the OBO list? Why would Megas NOT want shareholders to know how many shares he owns in certificate form? I believe he may own the majority of the shares issued! This would really provide some full and fair disclosure.




mastaflash 

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:34:43 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150176

Post # of 150192

CH hasn't screwed up that bad yet, so I doubt they would now. Never the less, they will all be getting letters is the important thing.




timmage 

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:37:18 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150178

Post # of 150192

And this letter does what, exactly? Haven't been keeping up but don't really see the point when Corzine can steal a billion with the click of a mouse.



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:37:52 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150179

Post # of 150192

Ouch, that means the OBO holders own almost all of the issued shares! THEN WHAT THE HECK DO WE OWN???? NAKED SHORTED SHARES?? THE SEC SAYS THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NAKED SHORTED SHARES AS ALL BROKERS NEED TO BE SURE THEY COVER THEIR SHORT POSITIONS IN 3 DAYS OR THEY HAVE AN FTD AND THAT IS ILLEGAL! HOW CAN THIS BE?



janice shell 

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:47:54 PM

Re: Sprycel post# 150177

Post # of 150192

I believe he may own the majority of the shares issued!

Megas is a 44.9% shareholder; Sytner a 33.7% shareholder:

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1076779/000114420408027565/v112087_defr14a.htm

See page 5.



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:53:30 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150183

Post # of 150192

HOW CAN THIS BE? I PERSONALLY OWN MORE THAN THE 21.4% LEFT??? SHOULD I FILE A FORM 4??? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER FORM 4'S THAT SHOULD BE FILED BY OTHER SUPPOSED SHAREHOLDERS? WHAT HAPPENS IF 1000 SHAREHOLDERS FILE FORM 4'S? THIS IS REALLY GOING TO GET EXCITING AROUND HERE! BETWEEN ME, MEGAS AND SYTNER, WE OWN MORE THAN THE COMPANY ISSUED!!! I GUESS BECAUSE MY BROKER, ETURD, TOLD ME IN WRITING I OWN ACTUAL SHARES IN BCIT, THE REST OF THE SHAREHOLDERS OWN NAKED SHORTED SHARES! THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE, THE SEC SAYS THAT IS ILLEGAL FOR BROKERS TO DO THAT!



Chas56789   

Friday, April 06, 2012 4:55:58 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150183

Post # of 150192

janice shell - How much % of the company do the shareholders who hold their shares in brokerage accounts own ? I believe those shareholders account for 1.2 bil shares....How much % of the company do they represent ?

Chas56789



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:00:17 PM

Re: Chas56789 post# 150185

Post # of 150192

I KNOW, I KNOW, PICK ME! SHAREHOLDERS ON THE NOBO LIST OWN ABOUT 1000% OF THE COMPANY! HOW CAN THIS BE? NAKED SHORT SELLING IS ILLEGAL! THE SEC SAID SO!



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:02:34 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150186

Post # of 150192

Well we will just have to wait and see what that letter says that is coming to all the shareholders on the NOBO list! THIS IS GETTING EXCITING! WHO SAID THE SHAREHOLDERS WERE GOING TO GO AWAY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS?


Chas56789   

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:03:42 PM

Re: Sprycel post# 150187

Post # of 150192

Sprycel - You have the correct answer ! The brokers are in Deep crap now ! Especially when they get exposed. If they were smart they would settle up with the company over this long weekend so the shareholders can be given real certed shares !


Chas56789



Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:09:37 PM

Re: Chas56789 post# 150189

Post # of 150192

That was easy! Even Jethro Bowden could do the gazinta to figure that number out! I don't want my certificate, I want the stock trading! The short squeeze will be bigger than Volkswagen!


Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:47:14 PM

Re: None

Post # of 150194

Holy Crap, this place has gone silent since this mornings press release! TO ALL THE BROKERS WHO ARE READING THIS SIGHT OR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED BY THE BROKERS........CHECKMATE!



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:49:58 PM

Re: Sprycel post# 150192

Post # of 150195

Just trying to help Jethro out!

Megas is at 44.9%
Sytner is at 33.7%
Sprycel is at 21.4%
____________________
100%

Well I hope that's it for the Shareholders, because how can you have more then 100%, is that even legal!

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74131548

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74131626




Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:52:44 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 150194

Post # of 150195

I actually own 27.6 of the company which makes it 3 shareholders who own over 100% of the company's official issued and outstanding shares! I just don't know what the other 1000 shareholders own!



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:59:20 PM

Re: Sprycel post# 150195

Post # of 150201

How is this possible!

They've been telling us that there's no such thing as NAKED SHORT SHARES.

They wouldn't LIE to us, would they?



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 6:02:56 PM

Re: carrot_on_stick post# 150196

Post # of 150201

You've been around here for awhile!

How is it possible that 3 shareholders have more then 100% of the Shares, isn't that illegal!



M0NEYMADE 

Friday, April 06, 2012 6:05:17 PM

Re: Sprycel post# 150195

Post # of 150201

,,,,,,,How come I've never seen you here?? 27%????




Sprycel   

Friday, April 06, 2012 6:10:56 PM

Re: M0NEYMADE post# 150199

Post # of 150201

I am on the NOBO list along with 1000 other shareholders! I have always been here! The only difference with me is ETURD told me in writing I own shares in BCIT so the other 999 shareholders own naked shorted shares! In fact, I must own some too because you can own only 100% of the company and for some strange reason, the three shareholders own MORE than 100% of the company!



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 6:14:20 PM

Re: None

Post # of 150201

Can anyone explain it?

How can 3 Shareholders control more then 100% of BCIT Shares, is this that new math they've been talking about!



Iluvbbs   

Friday, April 06, 2012 6:31:34 PM

Re: M0NEYMADE post# 150199

Post # of 150202

Quote:
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,,,,,,,How come I've never seen you here?? 27%????
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Speaking of NOT seeing someone around here before??? What's this, your first visit in years.......

Ever consider Sprycel changed his name from his previous one at some time in the past?? I KNOW who he is, as do a LOT of the regular posters to this board........if you were so concerned and visited this board MORE often, you would too......

Think about it...... and don't you have more important things to be doing like zeroing in another thinly traded stock, buying the hell out of it before telling any of your sheeple, and then selling into your sheeple's buying??

I thought you were TOO important to yourself and your self-promotion to be paying any attention to a little ol' delisted, and non-trading stock like BCIT??

God, in my opinion only, the fact that you are even posting here just tells me that on the first day of when we get back to trading, ALL the EYES of IHUB will be watching the PPS very closely.

Maybe I WILL end up a millionaire after all......who knows??

Thanks for making an appearance Moneymade. That just goes to show me, that BCIT as an entity is even stronger than I gave it credit for.

Steve



2late   

Friday, April 06, 2012 7:34:41 PM

Re: ohbull2000 post# 150112

Post # of 150210

It's very entertaining to hear about everyones alledged % of holdings that combined exceed the outstanding. lololo

I believe everyone here that is entitled is on that NOBO list as holders of the "heard but not seen" 106 stock certificates.

So how many 205's exist from which these holdings of 106's are to be bought from?

I believe only a few here actual hold "PHYSICAL 205" shares from which everyone's positions need to be bought from.

I believe that number is around 44 or so plus insiders.

So how will we get enough 205's to cover the needed 106's to make everyone "real" BCIT shareholders?

This will be so fun to watch play out:)




Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 7:47:32 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150205

Post # of 150210

Yes, but it’s right to inform the New

and remind the Old, even if some feelings are hurt!

"I suggest you read the filing in question with attention. None of this is new to the board."~janice shell

BCIT is not your run of the mill, crimes have been committed against Shareholders. Again those that committed the crimes are now trapped. The question is, will they be held accountable, and if so how?


5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1490 2012-04-06 20:32:10

Bull Finch
Member
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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



Lebron23   

Friday, April 06, 2012 2:49:08 PM

Re: Anvil post# 197751


Post # of 197774

How do you know their website is up-to-date?



Lebron23   

Friday, April 06, 2012 2:49:52 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 197760

Post # of 197774

It's probably like 98% of websites out there...not updated.



Lebron23   

Friday, April 06, 2012 2:52:04 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197701

Post # of 197774

Quote:
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board is not very busy today.. must mean

NO DIVVY COMING
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Board is BUSY on a holiday......interesting...........



paunch13   

Friday, April 06, 2012 3:18:34 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 197762

Post # of 197774

Lebron23
If this board ever gets quite we will know then that they have won and we have lost everything but as lont as there are many still posting here we know everything is going great
John



paunch13   

Friday, April 06, 2012 3:45:59 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197768

Post # of 197774

Puppy
As long as you and the others keep posting every day we know we have it made, so keep on posting and give us the assurance that all is well
John



wrenchman 

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:07:05 PM

Re: Anvil post# 197751

Post # of 197774

umm Bouse Gold Inc and S.Copperstone shares were the remaining percentages of the mines as FFGO was only part of it,now those shares are under Petes' control through Bouse and S Copperstone Inc. so all is to do is add those to the Super8k which will be linked to ST.James then to NMGL,Voila!!!!

WHAT IS THE COMPANY’S STOCKHOLDING IN BOUSE GOLD, INC. AND IN SOUTH COPPERSTONE, INC.?:

The Company holds:

1,030,421,001 shares of South Copperstone, Inc. Common Stock, representing 46.84% of their shares of outstanding Common Stock.

510,923,545 shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. Common Stock, representing 23.22% of their outstanding shares of Common Stock.

NMGL intends to purchase 100% ownership of Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. This is imperative if they are to sell these Gold assets for cash going forward. NMGL has not however provided us with any timeframe as to when they intend to acquire the additional shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. and NMGL will clearly continue to follow their own business plan and will only complete all of these transactions as and when it fits into their own business plan. This NMGL policy very clearly extends as well to their purchasing shares from historic stockholders from 2005 who received shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. and of South Copperstone, Inc.



wrenchman 

Friday, April 06, 2012 5:15:22 PM

Re: Anvil post# 197751

Post # of 197774

This is a better page available projects!!!I dont see Bouse and S. Copperstone on that list do you?

http://mcintyrebaumangroup.com/mcb_projects_gold_silver.htm



stoprun   

Friday, April 06, 2012 8:22:29 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197774

Divy must be getting closer, shorty posting continually on day the market is closed. Got to love it!!!!!
Tic Toc, Tic Toc!!!!!




OldBen 

Friday, April 06, 2012 6:56:55 PM

Re: AlanC post# 9430

Post # of 9434

While main street is suffering through hard times, banks are in a bull market. With Federal interest rates at virtually zero, banks can get money virtually free and lend it out at 4-6% easy. If interest rates were at 5% and banks wanted to make 4-6%, they would have to lend out at 9-11% with less willing buyers. This has to be a great time to be a bank with such low interest rates. The politicians are trying to garner votes by offering token settlements to victims of the housing crisis that banks and politicians created.

The politicians will try to garner votes again as they are forced to recognize NSS. They will offer settlements or forced covers and will have to stop accepting NSS type lobbyist money. IMO.



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:12:47 AM

Re: None

Post # of 197776

26 on the breakout boards?

Revoked?

Seems to me that someone is very interest in what is going on with a "DEAD" stock!

Tic Toc



varmit   

Friday, April 06, 2012 9:48:47 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 292

Post # of 299

is jammin jay a sneaky janice empty shell ????? why would they post an identical phrase

i beleive they are one unit !!!!!!!! anyone agree >?????


Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 10:54:22 PM

Re: varmit post# 295

Post # of 299

Most Minion lack acumen!

This one is no exception, and has made many public faux pas!



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:02:07 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 297

Post # of 299

There are secret legs of trades that never show up on the daily volume. Right? At least that is what I am reading from those claiming to be on FINRA's speed dial.

SJCH - SEC reactivated because...???

Tic Toc




Bull Finch 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:15:31 AM

Re: JammingJAY post# 290

Post # of 299

That's a good one, this one is better!


JammingJAY

Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:55:29 AM
Re: None
Post # of 1889

What is iHubs position on a user posting whole threads to another site such as this,

http://www.deepcapture.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=646&p=1

My posts here are copyrighted by me, for use on iHub only, although I don't mind parts of what I post posted elsewhere whole threads and comments appear to be a bit overboard to me.

???

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67077824


Churak

Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:57:12 AM
Re: JammingJAY post# 1615
Post # of 1889

My posts here are copyrighted by me

lol...they are? last I saw they were owned by iHub/ADVFN

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67077913


SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:36:36 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 300

Post # of 301

Lumb has NEVER posted here, or on iHub, IMO. Someone was "posing" as Lumb.

Oh...

Since "Lumb" controls "everything", how is he not in control of the SEC reinstating SJCH?

Tic Toc


Bull Finch 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:47:49 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 300

Post # of 302

Ask janice, she said she did already!

"Perhaps if you or another Lumb supporter would like to contact him about the reinstatement, that info could be shared here."~RoadLessTraveled



Bull Finch 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:54:54 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 301

Post # of 305

There appears to be a tangled web here!



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:57:02 AM

Re: Bull Finch post# 303

Post # of 305

Very strange. SEC un-revokes a stock. Main principle "claims" via unverified anonymous claims to have nothing to do with it. AND...

And market makers continue to focus resources on stocks that are at no bid, or revoked.

Very strange.



Bull Finch 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:00:43 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 304

Post # of 305

Must be where the money is hidden!

"Very strange. SEC un-revokes a stock. Main principle "claims" via unverified anonymous claims to have nothing to do with it. AND...

And market makers continue to focus resources on stocks that are at no bid, or revoked.

Very strange."~SevenTenEleven



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:03:29 AM

Re: Bull Finch post# 305

Post # of 306

SJCH is very tradable. Put an order in to buy today, and it went through. No fill since there are no sellers at $0.25.

Remember When Buffet first started BH, people scoffed at taking a company from a textile focused business to what it is today..

Tic Toc




SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:08:01 AM

Re: Bull Finch post# 305

Post # of 308

How much ex-clearing is slipping under FINRA's radar?

There could be shares trading below 100 share lots and not hitting the daily tape. They could be going off at $1K per share for all we know.

FINRA has confirmed that such situations are possible.

Tic Toc




Bull Finch 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:08:58 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 306

Post # of 308

I wonder at what level an order would be filled at?



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:11:41 AM

Re: Bull Finch post# 308

Post # of 309

Well, only >100 share orders show up on level 2's and the daily tape. So there "could" be volume, theoretically.

I may try to play with buy levels next week to see if an order fills.




Bull Finch 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:16:59 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 309

Post # of 311

A completed transaction would answer many questions,

also create many more!




SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:22:27 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 310

Post # of 312

I openly admitted I did not know why it was reinstated...only heard that Lumb had nothing to do with it as has already been posted here. However, since that info cannot be documented, I do not use it. - RoadLessTraveled

Who are you replying to? Certainly not me because I never brought up either of those topics.

I never mentioned nor care if someone posing as Lumb ever posted here.

I also never mentioned anything about Lumb controlling everything. The most control he might have is over SJCH shares. The last relationship he would have is with the SEC so where is that comment coming from? Certainly nothing I just said.

My remarks here have been about my opinion of SJCH's reinstatement being meaningless until they regain Active status with NV SOS. Without it, they cannot conduct any business...period.

However, should that ever happen, then it might demonstrate that Lumb had a hand in this reinstatement. Short of that happening, any reasons can only be the basis of a lot of unfounded speculation. - RoadLessTraveled

Claims that Lumb is controlling FFGO, NMGL, RENS, GNCP, etc are nothing more than unfounded speculation.

Claims that Lumb was posting on iHub year back, is nothing more than unfounded speculation. ANYONE could have been pretending to be Lumb. ANYONE!

IOU's have been issued by the market makers and the brokers have been left holding the bag.

Shareholders will be rewarded soon enough.

Colorful and creative comments will not change the course of action put in place by a very carefully crafted plan.

Good Luck!



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1491 2012-04-07 14:54:00

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

Moderators:AlanC, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Texan77, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16265


Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)

Moderators:kazorchian, SevenTenEleven, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=24215



Texan77   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 3:49:39 AM

Re: Anvil post# 197751

Post # of 197789

bauman will always have royalty rights good try though the deal is for the lease and right to extract gold/pm.




AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:13:56 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197776

Post # of 197789

7/10/11: Petrified of the potential to bankrupt those that are short when dividends delivered to those that own shares. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:16:12 AM

Re: Texan77 post# 197778

Post # of 197789

Texan77: You crush the arguments of those who owe shares. Well done! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



mwab52   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:02:51 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197789

Wow! Seems like some are more concerned about (FFGO) divies then (FFGO) shareholders.Hold onto those shares.(FFGO)



AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 2:57:38 PM

Re: ctrumabll post# 197781

Post # of 197789

We disagree! I look at is as a just compensation to those who own shares while at the same time a warning to never ever naked short a related company again. Go FFGO!!!

Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 3:01:45 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197787

Post # of 197789

Mark this post too! You will be here just as you are now if for some reason the dividend has not been paid by then. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!

10 million shares cost $1,000. and will return $34,449.00!



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 1:22:27 AM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 310

Post # of 317

I openly admitted I did not know why it was reinstated...only heard that Lumb had nothing to do with it as has already been posted here. However, since that info cannot be documented, I do not use it. - RoadLessTraveled

Who are you replying to? Certainly not me because I never brought up either of those topics.

I never mentioned nor care if someone posing as Lumb ever posted here.

I also never mentioned anything about Lumb controlling everything. The most control he might have is over SJCH shares. The last relationship he would have is with the SEC so where is that comment coming from? Certainly nothing I just said.

My remarks here have been about my opinion of SJCH's reinstatement being meaningless until they regain Active status with NV SOS. Without it, they cannot conduct any business...period.

However, should that ever happen, then it might demonstrate that Lumb had a hand in this reinstatement. Short of that happening, any reasons can only be the basis of a lot of unfounded speculation. - RoadLessTraveled

Claims that Lumb is controlling FFGO, NMGL, RENS, GNCP, etc are nothing more than unfounded speculation.

Claims that Lumb was posting on iHub year back, is nothing more than unfounded speculation. ANYONE could have been pretending to be Lumb. ANYONE!

IOU's have been issued by the market makers and the brokers have been left holding the bag.

Shareholders will be rewarded soon enough.

Colorful and creative comments will not change the course of action put in place by a very carefully crafted plan.

Good Luck!




AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:10:05 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 307

Post # of 317

The shortman's world is crumbling. Just take a look around at all the companies who are now fighting back. No more roll over and die, rather just the opposite and the exposure is going to be devastatitng. Regulators who once protected the shortman will be turning against him as they realize the tide has turned. Wait till the Judge unseals the evidence in the O case. SJCH was reactivated for a reason and that reason is bearing down on the shortman like a freight train! Go SJCH!!!



Bull Finch 

Friday, April 06, 2012 1:28:01 PM

Re: JammingJAY post# 290

Post # of 294

Here's something else you may of missed!


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72840328


Bull Finch

Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:04:41 PM

Re: janice shell post# 22891

Post # of 24189

So what’s up with the dates!

The date Denver54 made that post at CMKX is also the last date you posted at FFGO.

I guess just coincidence, and happenstance!


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56837745

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/boardposters.aspx?boardid=3111



AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:40:41 AM

Re: Bull Finch post # 285

Post # of 314

BullFinch: Is that why Janice Shell no longer posts on FFGO or any of the sisters? Go SJCH!!!


5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1492 2012-04-07 20:07:24

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Bancorp International Group Inc (fka BCIT)

Moderators:weebie, allezlOM, f1fans, camper9, AlexI, CarltonH

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3879



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:53:46 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150221

Post # of 150275

Apparently, not everyone is on the NOBO or OBO. Fancy that.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:59:04 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150225

Post # of 150275

There's no reason there should be any change to the NOBO since Megas sued you, given that the stock hasn't traded. Unless some people managed to get their stock written off as worthless, or changed their status from NOBO to OBO.

As previously noted, there is no OBO list.


mastaflash

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:01:51 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150226

Post # of 150275

Broadridge has all the address for those not on the NOBO, so call it what you want. Apparently, some people...quite a few actually, are not on either list, or any list at all...yet they have proof of purchase from their broker. Now, if that doesn't stink to high heaven, what does?



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:03:30 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150227

Post # of 150275

Broadridge has all the address for those not on the NOBO, so call it what you want.

They do? You know that how? Did you call 'em or something? And it's not what "I want", it's what Broadridge says: "There is no OBO list".

Do you understand that OBOs are OBOs because they do not want to be contacted by the company or its agents?




mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:04:13 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150228

Post # of 150275

Your information is faulty.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:06:05 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150229

Post # of 150275

Well, it came directly from the Broadridge site, so complain to them if you must. In the meanwhile, I'll go with what they say.

What point would there be in being an OBO--which, if you've forgotten, mean Objecting Beneficial Owner--if your personal info was made available to the people you don't want it made available to?




NI43-101 Or Bust   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:11:28 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150227

Post # of 150275

LOL.... Masta my friend, Janice sees what is happening, but would be in breach of contract to say otherwise. This is a brilliant plan of attack IMO!



SevenTenEleven 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:38:42 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150230

Post # of 150275

Still waiting for someone to outline how shareholders will benefit from the company's strategy.



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:50:36 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150230

Post # of 150275

What point would there be in being an OBO--which, if you've forgotten, mean Objecting Beneficial Owner--if your personal info was made available to the people you don't want it made available to? - I'm just telling you that BCIT is doing a mailing to OBO and NOBO via Broadridge. There would be little point in lying about that in a PR.


mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:51:22 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150234

Post # of 150276

All street name holders are on the NOBO correct?



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:51:51 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150236

Post # of 150276

Okay. You prefer to believe what was said in the PR to what's said at Broadridge's website (which also happens to be common knowledge).



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:53:28 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150240

Post # of 150276

People who do not request being on the OBO, are not on the OBO, yes?



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:53:51 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150241

Post # of 150276

That makes sense to you? Or is it a Test of Faith or something?



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:54:24 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150242

Post # of 150276

People who do not request OBO status are on the NOBO. Unless they hold certs, in which case they're in the TA's log. (Or should be; I wonder if Pearlasia's there.)



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:56:14 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150244

Post # of 150276

What do you call someone in street name, is not on the OBO, and not on the NOBO?



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:56:55 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150245

Post # of 150276

There is no such category. OBOs also hold in street name. The difference is that the OBOs object to the company having their information.



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:01:19 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150243

Post # of 150277

There have been quite a few 'findings' put forth by CH that flew in the face of what is 'common knowledge'...and proved out to be true, so I would call it more than faith. A website does not always have all the facts.



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:01:55 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150246

Post # of 150277

There is no such category. - There is now. We need a name.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:03:24 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150247

Post # of 150277

I think Broadridge's website makes the question pretty clear. You want to know how many shares are held by OBOs? Fine; they can get the number. Want to know who they are? Forget it.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:04:16 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150248

Post # of 150277

There is no such category. Street name holders are divided into two groups, NOBO and OBO. The rest hold certs.



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:11:34 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150250

Post # of 150277

I'm telling you there are such people. NONNOBO - Neither Objecting Nor Non Objecting Owners



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:22:31 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150252

Post # of 150277

LOLOLOLOL!! Imagining that such a thing exists doesn't make it so.



AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:23:51 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150245

Post # of 150277

I call them victims of fraud by their brokerage firm who took their money and desked their order. Go BCIT!!!



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:24:27 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150253

Post # of 150277

We shall see....they are also known by another name...VoF.




janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:26:49 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150255

Post # of 150277

I imagine you've noticed that Broadridge mentions no such thing at its website. So as far as they're concerned, they don't exist.

Therefore Broadridge would not have their names. Because they don't exist.

Would you like to try again?



mastaflash 


Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:29:55 PM

Re: None

Post # of 150277

Imagine if a broker took money from a client, and never bought any shares of any kind...just took the money, because they knew...or thought they knew, that BCIT was doomed, and they would never have to give the money back, or supply a cert. Such a person would be a NONNOBO. There are some...quite a few actually. Serious business.



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:31:29 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150257

Post # of 150277

Broadridge does not track victims of fraud, I'll give you that. They do know who is holds IOUs in BCIT.



AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:32:03 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150255

Post # of 150277

The results obtained from sending this letter should provide documented proof of fraud which cannot be denied. Bring on the DOJ or the Attorney General's office or both. Time some of these folks spent some time at the crowbar hotel. Go BCIT!!!



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:34:08 PM

Re: AlanC post# 150260

Post # of 150277

Bingo that. Amazed JS did not come to the same conclusion. She believes everything she reads.




AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:34:53 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150258

Post # of 150277

IMHO any brokerage firm that did that should lose its license and the officers and directors of the firm should be prosecuted.
Go BCIT!!!



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:41:30 PM

Re: AlanC post# 150262

Post # of 150277

Perhaps it is just a 'clerical error'.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:41:37 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150258

Post # of 150277

Not to burst your little balloon, but Megas sued 1200 people, and he did it on the basis of a NOBO list.

So I don't think that theory's gonna fly.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:43:04 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150259

Post # of 150277

They do know who the NOBOs are. They don't know who the OBOs are; they only know how much stock they hold.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:44:24 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150261

Post # of 150277

No, dear, I don't believe everything I read. I tend to look for authoritative statements from people who actually know what they're talking about.



AlanC

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:46:03 PM

Re: AlanC post# 150262

Post # of 150277

Between the documentation we longs have provided from saved emails coupled with what Carton Huxley has obtained it will be easy to prove since all firms have known about this situation for years.
A clerical error would have been corrected 7 years ago.
Go BCIT!!!



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:49:49 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150265

Post # of 150277

Rubbish. How would you explain this? Broadridge has contracts with almost all brokerage firms and banks to send investor materials to OBOs, and companies pay the costs for them to do so. - I didn't just fall off a turnip truck...you need a NAME AND ADDRESS to accomplish this most amazing task. BCIT sent letters -VIA BROADRIDGE to ALL OBOs and NOBOs. What would you call people who DON'T get a letter?



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:56:59 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150268

Post # of 150277


As I understand it, nobody's got a letter yet...



mastaflash

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:58:07 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150269

Post # of 150277

Some will not get one. That is the point of the exercise.




janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:58:51 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150270

Post # of 150277

And if that doesn't happen?



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:00:27 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150271

Post # of 150277

Then it doesn't happen...odds are it will. Why do keep trying to dumb it down? This is rocket science, and you understand it very well I suspect.



mastaflash 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:04:28 PM

Re: None

Post # of 150277

With all that has gone on in the markets of a criminal nature since 2008, some would still dare to say that brokers are incapable of screwing their muppets out of cash. Amazing.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:31:36 PM

Re: realwood post# 150274

Post # of 150277

Zealots tend not to understand that kind of reasoning.




Iluvbbs   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:42:52 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150263

Post # of 150277

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps it is just a 'clerical error'.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Is that something like MM's "Just keeping up with demand and making a market"???

LMAO.....

Best to all, Steve



Iluvbbs   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:47:51 PM

Re: mastaflash post# 150268

Post # of 150277

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What would you call people who DON'T get a letter?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Masters of Illusion??

Best, Steve



2late   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 10:10:34 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150264

Post # of 150282

I believe you are speaking without knowledge. Once Megas filed suit years ago all the information pertaining to shareholders was available.

NOBO or OBO makes no difference. That information is contained in the lock box.

Twist all you want, but the OBO is all go.

Don't forget, we are now a private company.

OBO definition no longer applies to BCIT any longer.




janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 10:27:25 PM

Re: 2late post# 150278

Post # of 150282

What lock box? One of those metal things with a cheesy little key?

OBO definition no longer applies to BCIT any longer.

Then why has that been the topic of discussion for the last two days? It certainly wasn't I who brought it up.



nwsun   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 10:56:37 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150265

Post # of 150283

I take it some letter is supposed to be going out? What if a person has a new address... I don't read this blog daily as its usually the same old arguments twisted and contorted in every direction with the same outcome, a stock that is globally locked.. so if I'm mistaken about the letter and its not for BCIT shareholders, that's why...




janice shell

Saturday, April 07, 2012 10:57:22 PM

Re: nwsun post# 150280

Post # of 150283

Yes, apparently the letter is going out to shareholders.




2late   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 11:00:49 PM

Re: 2late post# 150278

Post # of 150283

I wonder if legal and ethical boundaries were crosssed when BCIT tried to send notice in the civil action and due to the large NSS positions brokers were able to obstruct information from service pertaining to positions sold but not noted on the NOBO/OBO.

That is a very interesting question if brokers blocked the ability to serve S/H's by hiding sold positions.



janice shell 

Saturday, April 07, 2012 11:05:14 PM

Re: 2late post# 150282

Post # of 150283

Certainly the purpose of NOBO lists was violated.



poor broke bloke   

Saturday, April 07, 2012 11:08:17 PM

Re: realwood post# 150274

Post # of 150284

LOL!!!



Quote:
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Relax killer, that's taking it way to far. think about that for one moment. That would affect millions of innocent shareholders.
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We wouldn't want to draw the attention to milions of innocent investors, right? We are just worried about 1200- 1500 non-innocent investors who wanted to make a scene.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1493 2012-04-08 11:57:42

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Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111


kazorchian   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 7:00:13 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197794

Post # of 197806

it's all about the gold...when they pay the divy...somebody wants the gold and is going to mine Bouse and SC....I'm really betting within my lifetime there will be mining operations there....



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 11:27:05 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 197796

Post # of 197806

Even the SEC warns investors of anonymous posters!

the SEC advises shareholders of unknown parties posting emails and
unverifiable opinions - puppydotcom


Fortress Financial Group, Inc. - Shareholder Update

August 27, 2010

"The Company is further aware of some very specious deliberations which have been propagated through chat rooms regarding the possibility that there have been no such efforts and there is no such exit forthcoming. At this time we would like to set the record straight by saying that such undue speculation is completely false and we would advise shareholders to ignore those who propagate unfounded nonsense. Quite simply, there is nothing more important to this Company than the successful conclusion of a highly profitable result from what has been a very difficult and time consuming labor to meet all the necessary requirements to effect this result. Furthermore, the Company and its majority shareholders have as much interest in obtaining this result as the smallest shareholder does. To imply that something else is the case is simply untruthful and misinformed."

Sincerely yours;



Peter J. Bezzano

CHAIRMAN



paunch13   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 11:34:16 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197797

Post # of 197806

Seven
We have to be careful of any post because it is getting very close now and some posters will try anything to get you to believe anything bad about FFGO
John



lucvuillermoz   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:01:12 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197806

why some of my messages are deleted when they express some reflection ?




kazorchian   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:21:44 PM

Re: paunch13 post# 197798

Post # of 197807

What you hearing? you have the inside track?



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:33:59 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 197799

Post # of 197807

Are there any known substantial short positions in Fortress shares of common stock?

Not in our opinion as there is not a shred of evidence to substantiate these wild theories. Those who are true believers in supposed “forced covers” and “bear squeezes” are way off base in our opinion. This type of speculation should be treated as pure fantasy on their parts.

The "lack" in evidence lies in the FACT that FINRA bimonthly numbers are under reported and under inclusive for OTC stocks such as FFGO.

Also, FINRA numbers, reported, post-August 2010, were pulled from public view, and have not been posted since August 2010 for FFGO.

Hard to support lack of short interest "opinions" on data that is intentionally missing and removed.

The only thing pointing to an accumulating aggregate short position was the daily short volume numbers, which demonstrated a 90% short volume rate for months on end.

Oh, and illegal naked short positions are not reported to FINRA. That would be admitting to committing a crime.

Good Luck!


SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:36:00 PM

Re: kazorchian post# 197803

Post # of 197807

Filings around the corner.

Very obvious from the history.

Tic Toc



paunch13   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:36:39 PM

Re: kazorchian post# 197803

Post # of 197807

Kazorchain
No, Buit as soon as the company gets their finger out af their back sides and starts to do their job this will all be over
John


SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:52:45 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 197807

Post # of 197808

Who wouldn't want the dividend to be paid out to shareholders?

Claims that the company has changed its position on paying out the dividend is pure speculation and is not supported by verifiable claims provided by the company.

Oh, and the dividend distribution, WAS NOT AN OPINION of THE COMPANY, as is the case with the SHORT INTEREST that is likely lurking.

Good Luck!



kazorchian   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:29:12 PM

Re: wrj post# 31098

Post # of 31112

What have you heard lately?



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:35:22 PM

Re: kazorchian post# 31109

Post # of 31112

Filings coming.

Should be interesting when they happen.

A "regrouping" will be in order.

Tic Toc



kazorchian   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:36:36 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 31110

Post # of 31112

Filing? Really? That's great will be glad to see something here...all the best on this Easter!



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:38:59 PM

Re: kazorchian post# 31111

Post # of 31112

The need for shorts to cover is still very obvious. Their liability and risk is continuing to build. Efforts to cover are not coming to fruition.

Shareholders are holding and not taking write downs.

Filings for one or more of the sisters will cause some serious financial issues for those who have been naked short selling in this sector.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 1:14:39 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 197809

Post # of 197810

FFGO will distribute the dividend once NGML fulfills the 8 conditions for it.

How is that for a claim? - RoadLessTraveled

Such DD is reassuring that the dividend is still in play.

Thanks for the DD!

Good Luck!



wrenchman 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 1:49:35 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197815

Umm,see my previous post but Bouse and S. Copperstone have Pete Bezzano as the CEO/Director on the state filings so if he controls the shares how hard is it to sell them to NMGL/GNCP and that is A and B done and the rest is and or can be done already.



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1494 2012-04-08 20:53:07

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Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



Hunt Gold Corporation (HGLC)

Moderators:SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, CIBOLA

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=11344



lucvuillermoz   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 3:14:48 PM

Re: TomSawyer post# 197814

Post # of 197829

i think there is a relation between ffgo and nmgl

why ffgo have been delisted ?



AlanC

Sunday, April 08, 2012 6:47:16 PM

Re: wrenchman post# 197813

Post # of 197829

wrenchman: Spot on! Texan has proven that that assets not only exist but are worth billions of dollars and Pete Bezzano laid out the process for all of us. SevenTenEleven has posted the proof that nothing can prevent a liquidating dividend from being issued and as you have pointed out the process is under the control of the company and can be easily completed. The company told us they could not tell us exactly when but when it did happen most shareholders would be very pleased. This shareholder will be very very pleased with a return of almost $35.000.00 for every $1,000.00 I have invested.
This is going to make for an awesome payday and it is easy to understand why anyone short is very very concerned. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!



Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 7:50:12 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197829

Bouse & S. Copperstone.. Cold Winter day can not be for gotten.. 02/17/2011..

http://fortfinancegroup.com/

I would bet huge money that Lumb knows the short position is massive and the reason FFGO board is still so active..

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:04:43 PM

Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 197812

Post # of 197829

Texan says Lol on FFGO.. We are all locked in.. The Short and Long of it.. lol I won't sell and sure as hell won't buy.. lol

WESTERN DIVERSIFIED 

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:10:23 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 197825

Post # of 197829

Shorts are trapped. They are trying hoping for write downs that aren't coming.

Tic Toc



Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:19:30 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197826

Post # of 197830

FFGO~ They won't and one of the lead shorts is working the FFGO/NMGL angle as we speak..


Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:27:52 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 197827

Post # of 197830

FFGO - One of the lead shorts is in FFGO BIG-TIME!

Must have millions of dollars AT RISK. OUCH!

Tic Toc



shpan8   

Sunday, April 08, 2012 4:17:25 PM

Re: None

Post # of 31116

Hello Everyone Regarding HGLC:

I wrote an email to SEC asking HGLC's situations,Mr.Robert Greene
(Attorney,tel: 202-551-6331)Response as follows:

"I found information on the SEC website relating to HUNT GOLD, although it goes back to 2009. I would like to discuss it with you and answer your questios,  please give me a call at 202-551-6331."

Im sorry for my English speak is bad, can not call him to discuss, So post here, Please discuss with him if you are interested,
Thanks,Shpan8




Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 9:57:42 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197828

Post # of 197836

FFGO- And a direct line..

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 9:58:37 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 197832

Post # of 197836

FFGO - Will need a direct line to the FED for a bailout.

Tic Toc




Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 9:59:16 PM

Re: Anvil post# 197829

Post # of 197836

I am.. Let me know when it is set up.. Let us all know when.. TIA

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~ 



Rocket Man

Sunday, April 08, 2012 9:59:17 PM

Re: Anvil post# 197829

Post # of 197837

FFGO~ It is all here.. http://fortfinancegroup.com/

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:03:46 PM

Re: indebt2 post# 197830

Post # of 197838

FFGO~ Searchlight~ Fred & Barb? Seems something is keeping the glue form getting dissolved.

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:06:10 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 197836

Post # of 197838

FFGO - Filings would really make life difficult for those short.

Tic Toc




Rocket Man

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:06:46 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197826

Post # of 197839

What and who in FFGO, is the key.. Shorty knows and is trying to kill NMGL, imo.. Pretty sure she knows to be careful..

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~ 



Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:08:13 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197837

Post # of 197839

FFGO~ True, I think times are changing.. FFGO has a huge following..HUGE~~

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



Rocket Man

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:09:41 PM

Re: TomSawyer post# 197815

Post # of 197840

HGLC was one that proves things.. Ask TDa.. Nice~

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~



SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:12:36 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 197838

Post # of 197842

He knows he is trapped. Don't want to chew off the wrong "trading" leg. Should worry about the one that is in the "bear trap".


Rocket Man 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:12:54 PM

Re: TomSawyer post# 197814

Post # of 197843

I see that this point of view in regards to FFGO is very public..

http://fortfinancegroup.com/

Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~


SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:13:32 PM

Re: Rocket Man post# 197839

Post # of 197843

Following? I guess that is one way to describe the interest.

Tic Toc


5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1495 2012-04-09 09:43:11

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Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Bancorp International Group Inc (fka BCIT)

Moderators:weebie, allezlOM, f1fans, camper9, AlexI, CarltonH

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3879


AlanC

Monday, April 09, 2012 9:31:59 AM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 9438

Post # of 9439

Folks that have not been following the BCIT thread may want to check in from time to time as it seems brokerage firms have purposely underreported the number of shares owned on the NOBO/OBO lists and some shareholders are not on either! Imagine that? One firm alone is short 36 million shares that the company has proof are owned by shareholders.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74163354

How much fraud are you willing to accept. I don't think most Americans are willing to accept the kind of fraud present in our markets. We need to see prison sentences for these criminals!




CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 5:42:23 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150283

Post # of 150313

Certainly the purpose of NOBO lists was violated.

By the brokers



weebie 

Friday, April 06, 2012 3:34:58 AM

Re: None

Post # of 150313

April 6th PR:

BCIT Informs Shareholders of Important Action They Must Take in the Next Few Days

BCIT informs Investors to expect a letter from Broadridge in the next few days. This follows the uncovering of major discrepancies between shares declared to Broadridge by Brokers and those believed to have been purchased by Investors.

Carson City, NV (PRWEB) April 06, 2012

BCIT is informing all shareholders that they should be looking for a letter, sent on behalf of BCIT, from Broadridge in the days ahead. The company has just acquired the official NOBO and OBO lists from Broadridge and has authorized this mailing. This request, from Tom Megas, is to assist in Carlton Huxley’s continuing efforts to resolve several issues which they have uncovered through their forensic investigations. Carlton Huxley’s exhaustive efforts have uncovered several major discrepancies in the shares officially registered, and those held by actual shareholders.

The letter will provide a simple, inexpensive way for BCIT shareholders to provide proof of their BCIT holdings. Those shareholders, who have already provided Carlton Huxley with their BCIT share counts and other pertinent information, will not need to do so again.

Helping BCIT, and Carlton Huxley, will help you, the shareholder, see a positive completion to this investigation; but you need to help everyone to achieve this.

BCIT, Tom Megas, and Carlton Huxley thank all shareholders for their continued support through this important phase of the company’s resurgence.

Tom Megas

President & CEO

Bancorp International Group Inc

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9356112.htm



CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 5:32:22 AM

Re: timmage post# 150161

Post # of 150314

Same list you used to sue us, right?

WRONG for several reasons.

1. We never sued anyone :0
2. The current Broadridge list is not the same as previous ones.





CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 5:33:56 AM

Re: None

Post # of 150315

Everyone who bought and still holds a position in BCIT should be on or other of the lists held by Broadridge

But they aren't.



CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 5:38:19 AM

Re: 2late post# 150282

Post # of 150315

If brokers blocked the ability to serve S/H's by hiding sold positions.

Watch this space




CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 5:42:23 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150283

Post # of 150315

Certainly the purpose of NOBO lists was violated.

By the brokers




CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:13:55 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150264

Post # of 150315

Megas sued 1200 people, and he did it on the basis of a NOBO list

Big Deal Janice.
Please explain how in Gods name does that follow on from Mastas comment which says "Imagine if a broker took money from a client, and never bought any shares of any kind...just took the money, because they knew...or thought they knew, that BCIT was doomed, and they would never have to give the money back, or supply a cert. Such a person would be a NONNOBO. There are some...quite a few actually. Serious business."

Investors should either be on the NOBO list or the OBO list. Yet we know that there are are people who are not objecting who are not on the NOBO.

We also know people whose share count for investors on the NOBO is well below the number bought. In fact just from the people we know of the NOBO list is over 36 million light.

We know as fact that TDA are shown on the NOBO as having 89 million when in fact their position is over 117 million.



CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:16:06 AM

Re: mastaflash post# 150245

Post # of 150315

What do you call someone in street name, is not on the OBO, and not on the NOBO

Victim of Crime.



CarltonH 

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18:29 AM

Re: timmage post# 150224

Post # of 150315

If you read the PR you would know what was in the letter.




AlanC

Monday, April 09, 2012 9:10:27 AM

Re: CarltonH post# 150302

Post # of 150315

Hopefully those who purchased shares way back when and are not on either list will come forward and provide proof and testimony exposing those who committed fraud. This should cause numerous investigations and hopefully will result in real change. Will the firms involved be taken over by regulators just as bad banks are?
Will the media finally have no choice but to provide news coverage of the fraud in our markets? Thank you CarltonH and Tom Megas for having the courage and integrity to draw a line in the sand. For far too long too much has been stolen from too many by these criminals! Go BCIT!!!



camper9   

Monday, April 09, 2012 10:01:24 AM

Re: ohbull2000 post# 150293

Post # of 150316

Quote:
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following your thought right: what if "Bob Jones" bought 100K shares of BCIT, which shows on his fine fine brokerage's account, but perhaps doesn't show up officially anywhere else???

Why that would be incredible wouldn't it? Because as everybody knows, the Broadridge NOBO/OBO lists are stated to be at least "98%" accurate, so if "Bob Jones" is not on those two lists with 100K, well... somebody has some explaining to do huh? I sure hope that mailing proceeds so everyone can have things double-checked.
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You mean something along the lines of #3 on this list of Short Selling Strategies: Two Dozen Types of Short Sales.

I wonder how many of those two dozen types of short sales were used on BCIT?



Short Selling Strategies: Two Dozen Types of Short Sales

By William Cate

There are dozens of ways to sell short a stock.

1. Traditional Short Sale: Borrow the stock against a fifty percent margin.

This is the only type of short sale that can be squeezed when the share price moves up because the short seller must add money to their margin account.

2. A Market Maker Short Sale: U. S. Market Makers are not required to make physical delivery of stock certificates when they sell it. They are assumed to be a repository of the company's shares.

3. A Brokerage House Short Sale: This is a decision not to execute a buy order from a client, but show the stock as owned by the client on their monthly brokerage firm account statement.

4. A Clearing House Short Sale: The Clearing House doesn't execute the buy order, but credits it to the brokerage firm client's account.

5. A Naked Short Sale: This is where two brokerage firms agree to trade stock in a company with neither brokerage firm requesting physical delivery of the share certificates.

6. An Insider Short Sale: This is when insiders with restricted stock use it to sell short their company. It's illegal. It was a common practice when the Regulation S Hold Period was 40 days.

7. A Ferrari Short Sale: This is where a bloc of stock is purchased. The stock is converted to derivatives, thus factoring the stock one hundred fold or more. The short sale doesn't occur in the Stock Market, but the derivative owners are holding a short position.

8. The DTC Short Sale: This is when Depository Trust Companies use the stock they hold to sell short that stock.

9. The International Short Sale: Stock's created offshore. The company is listed to trade outside the United States (usually Canada). However the company is trading in the States. The shares are sold into the States. The Short Sale is moved to the Primary Country, where the local brokers can ensure that the short position will be covered by the listed company, if there is ever a successful short squeeze.

10. The Arbitrage Short Sale: LTV - Scattered Securities is an example of this short play. The Court in the LTV reorganization determined the exchange rate for new shares for old shares at three cents. The Market didn't read the Court decision. The old shares traded far higher than the Court Ordered exchange rate. The short sale was done by selling old shares and buying new shares before the Court mandated exchange of share certificates.

11. The Street Stock Short Sale: Sellers who are insiders or who allege to be insiders sell counterfeit stock to buyers outside regular market channels.

12. The MIDI Short Sale: Brokers sell stock at prices well above the actual trading price of the stock. This has been popular with German OTC stocks sold into the Middle East. The gap between the sale price and the trading price is an effective short sale.

13. The Depository Receipt Short Sale: Using counterfeit stock, the seller deposits it into an overseas bank. They then sell Depository Receipts against the counterfeit shares held by the bank. I've seen this done in Asia.

14. The Rockford Short Sale: An investment firm buys shares and takes physical delivery of the stock certificates. They replace the real share certificates with counterfeit share certificates. Next they sell the real shares back into the Market and repeat the process. This practice does wonders for their balance sheet. The tactic was popularized in the Rockford TV Series. It's been done in Asia with NYSE shares.

15. The Tax Haven Bank Short Sale: Small (usually Caribbean) banks act as agents for their clients unwilling to reveal their identity. The client wants to buy stock. The bank doesn't buy the stock on behalf of the client. They simply show the sale within the bank's accounting system. This practice extends to gold etc.

16. The Lost Certificate Short Sale: Client requests share certificate.

Broker sends it certified to the slightly wrong address. It's returned to broker. Using the certified receipt broker claims the client has the share certificate. A year is spent in proving it never arrived. Meanwhile the broker has the share certificate and can use it to cover other short sales. This happened to me in Vancouver.

17. The Margined Short Sale: Buyer buys stock on margin. They can't take physical delivery of their share certificates. The broker sells the margined account non-existent stock (a short sale).

18. The Takeover Short Sale: Brokers add non-existent stock into a takeover with stock transaction. The buyer pays for the non-existent shares. The short seller gets cash or stock in the buyers company.

19. The Attrition Short Sale: For OTC stocks about 3% of the beneficial owners of the stock disappear each year. They die, forget they own the stock, etc. Brokers can safely sell short 3% of the float each year relying on the fact that the beneficial owners will never claim their stock.

20. Counterfeit Stock: Professionals regularly send counterfeit share certificates to Transfer Agents. A surprising percentage are accepted as real share certificates. The result is the professional effectively has sold short the shares involved in the certificate.

21. Issue Depository Receipts without holding the stock and sell the Depository Receipts.

22. The Warrant or Option Short Sale. Buyer holds the right to exercise warrants or options, but doesn't do so. Instead, they sell short the stock and use the options or warrants as insurance. This was popular among VSE underwriters in the 1980s-1990s

23. Reg S Short Sale. Same format as the Warrant or Option Short sale, but using cheap Reg S stock. The short seller is exposed for one year.

24. The Lending Short Sale. This was used by the guy who introduced me to the business. You offer to lend 90% of the face value of the stock to the borrower for a long period of time. Your interest rate is better than that of a bank. You take in the stock and sell it. You lend 90% of the proceeds from the sale. You are now short the stock. You collect your interest payments until the borrower defaults on the loan.

About the Author

William Cate has been the Managing Director of Beowulf Investments since 1981 and is the Executive Director of the Global Village Investment Club.




Sprycel   

Monday, April 09, 2012 10:32:00 AM

Re: None

Post # of 150316

Can someone tell me if my understanding of the latest discovery is true? My understanding is brokers were selling shares of BCIT without actually making the transaction and reporting the transaction for listing on the NOBO list as ownership of the BCIT shares bought? If this can be proven, it is much more serious than any Naked Short Sold shares! This is a felony for fraud under Federal Security Laws! A HUGE PONZI OPERATION RUN BY ONLINE BROKERS! The brokers would be wise just to settle up at $1.00 per share than to have this proven in a court of law! Anyone?



Chas56789   

Monday, April 09, 2012 10:33:19 AM

Re: AlanC post# 150310

Post # of 150317

Alanc - I am making some progress in my youtube video. In the process of doing this exposure I am coming up with some other ideas.

I am wondering what people think if a few of us can get together and attempt a citizens arrest on the CEO of these brokerages and tape the event and put it on youtube.

The company can pursue things via the courts and shareholders can put pressure on these crooks via public exposure.

Chas56789



BigMoneyAtl   

Monday, April 09, 2012 10:38:29 AM

Re: Sprycel post# 150314

Post # of 150317

We all know for a fact that it is FRAUD. However, SEC is on their side, and therefore, we are like David vs. Goliah. It is sick knowing that our hard earned tax dollars paying these guys' salary.




5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1496 2012-04-09 12:46:14

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111


North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

Moderators:AlanC, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Texan77, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16265



Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)

Moderators:kazorchian, SevenTenEleven, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=24215



GNCC Capital, Inc. (GNCP)

Moderators:SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, digger1, Bull Finch, vladimirr

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3731




Hunt Gold Corporation (HGLC)

Moderators:SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, CIBOLA

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=11344




paunch13   

Monday, April 09, 2012 7:35:27 AM

Re: shpan8 post# 197848

Post # of 197856

shpan8
FFGO is not trading at the moment but it weill be back when they are ready
John



Vianna 

Monday, April 09, 2012 11:16:53 AM

Re: paunch13 post# 197849

Post # of 197856

GM John and All FFGOrs! I hope everyone had a great Easter yesterday.

I like your attitude, John..."when they are ready."

FFGO has come back before and, it can again, particularly since the DIVY is STILL ON!

http://www.fortfinancegroup.com/

Yep...website still up and NO Cancellation notice.

Tic Toc

V



Lebron23   

Monday, April 09, 2012 12:47:14 PM

Re: Vianna post# 197854

Post # of 197856

Good Morning V, great to see your post. I'm thinking the same thing that John is...management has their timetable and the steps to complete everything for the NMGL/FFGO dividend will happen on management's terms.
The Big Picture is that management/huge stockholders stand to gain way more than any of us...although we will do very well!
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FFGO!




Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 11:04:23 AM

Re: candeedus post# 1034

Post # of 1037

"backlog of major news, filings, etc."

I wonder what they could be!



The Green Baron . com has picked GNCP as a stock to watch for April. They issued a buy alert at .025 and some info re; a couple of big sellers that beat the price down from .08 and supposedly those shares have been cleaned up and was the reason for the delay in announcements from the company. Now that the major seller is out of the way the stock is steadily moving up a little each day.

The GB is advising members to set their news alerts for GNCP and that a sizeable shareholder awareness campaign from outside services will launch to coincide w/ news starting to be released from the company. The Green Baron said they're frustraded by the delay but that it provided a great buying op at 2 - 3 cents (which it did) but now it's time to see if it can start the climb back up to much higher levels. GB seems to indicate that there is a backlog of major news, filings, etc. that once it begins will continue strongly and push the volume and price to much higher levels and the shareholder awareness campaign should bolster those efforts.

GB says that even a few trades moves the stock and I've seen exactly that FWIW. Doesn't seem to take much volume so we need news to get that volume going.

The Green Baron offers free mobile stock alerts direct to your inbox and/or mobile device (which is how I found out about GNCP). You can sign up on their website...IT'S FREE

Good luck to all on GNCP and hopefully the PR's start to flow soon. Price lookin' good today...so far



Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 11:58:33 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 1025

Post # of 1037

Could this be your Trap

"If announced, I'm pretty sure we will find out it's a trap for Mr Nasty Naked Shorty pants"~puppydotcom




maddog gene   

Monday, April 09, 2012 12:09:48 PM

Re: candeedus post# 1034

Post # of 1037

green baron article is correct..time to BUY,BUY @.09!!




SevenTenEleven 

Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:38:59 PM

Re: kazorchian post# 31111

Post # of 31121

The need for shorts to cover is still very obvious. Their liability and risk is continuing to build. Efforts to cover are not coming to fruition.

Shareholders are holding and not taking write downs.

Filings for one or more of the sisters will cause some serious financial issues for those who have been naked short selling in this sector.

Tic Toc




shpan8   

Monday, April 09, 2012 7:24:53 AM

Re: None

Post # of 31121

GM! Today HGLC price renew to 0.0001 ! Shpan8



MorningSun   

Monday, April 09, 2012 12:19:14 PM

Re: shpan8 post# 31118

Post # of 31121

That did happen. My Zecco account went from $0.0000 for two days back to $0.0001! Looks better at $0.0001.



Vianna 

Monday, April 09, 2012 12:57:06 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 31112

Post # of 31121

So true, SevenTenEleven!

I still hold 64M shares...no write offs for me.

Sorry Shorty! smile

V

SevenTenEleven Member Profile SevenTenEleven Member Level

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Sunday, April 08, 2012 12:38:59 PM
Re: kazorchian post# 31111
Post # of 31119
The need for shorts to cover is still very obvious. Their liability and risk is continuing to build. Efforts to cover are not coming to fruition.

Shareholders are holding and not taking write downs.

Filings for one or more of the sisters will cause some serious financial issues for those who have been naked short selling in this sector.

Tic Toc




SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 1:28:55 PM

Re: Vianna post# 31120

Post # of 31121

HGLC - Planning on adding more here and in the rest of the sisters.

Filing by NMGL will be very problematic for those short. They will be in a pickle!

Tic Toc



Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 11:21:36 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 7320

Post # of 7407

That's why we haven't seen any Filings!

There's a "backlog of major news, filings, etc."

All the Filings are going to come out at once, getting their ducks in a row!

This is going to get interesting, it’s a good thing everyone waited!



Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 11:32:57 AM

Re: puppydotcom post# 7320

Post # of 7407

If I remember correctly, didn't they mention a Super 8k filing!



varmit   

Monday, April 09, 2012 12:43:23 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 169

Post # of 320

SEVEN !!!!!!

i second that motion ...... i will close out over a billion shares @ a buck a share ....... that allows those who need to settle this matter some breathing room

instead of being 200 billion nss now its 199 billion ....

varmy cares



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 12:49:25 PM

Re: varmit post# 319

Post # of 320

A buck a share it is for me also! Those short are being persistent. Too bad their persistence will not pay off.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 1:45:29 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 7405

Post # of 7408

NMGL - OUCH when those filings do hit! Will be a tough one to swallow for those short.

Good Luck!



Lebron23   

Monday, April 09, 2012 2:18:09 PM

Re: medchal post# 197857

Post # of 197861

Pay some fees to Wyoming..it's back.
Simple.




Vianna 

Monday, April 09, 2012 2:57:45 PM

Re: medchal post# 197857

Post # of 197861

No warning is needed here at this point, as NO ONE can buy FFGO.

On the other hand, for Longs, FFGO can make a tremendous "comeback" when the dividend is paid...and it still CAN be paid. SevenTenEleven has been very diligent in confirming that...not to mention the fact that the principals have not canceled the dividend.

FFGO is revoked and it makes ZERO difference when it comes to the dividend. The Company anticipated FFGO would be thrown to the gray market and set things up to protect themselves and us.

Newbies...DON'T TRY TO BUY FFGO...YOU CAN'T BUY IT!

LOL

V




digger1   

Monday, April 09, 2012 2:49:53 PM

Re: None

Post # of 1038

offers are being snapped up very quickly now, news is probably right around the corner,
lets go GNCP !



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Last edited by Bull Finch (2012-04-09 14:04:29)

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#1497 2012-04-09 19:54:51

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111


North American Gold & Minerals Fund (NMGL)

Moderators:AlanC, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Texan77, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=16265



Saint James Capital Holdings (SJCH)

Moderators:kazorchian, SevenTenEleven, Bull Finch

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=24215



GNCC Capital, Inc. (GNCP)

Moderators:SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, digger1, Bull Finch, vladimirr

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3731





Lebron23   

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:08:42 PM

Re: medchal post# 197859

Post # of 197881

I've done it before. It's simple. Not a biggie. They just want their $$$$$$$$$$$.



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:25:01 PM

Re: Lebron23 post# 197866

Post # of 197881

Filings comings! Those writing down shares prior to dividend will regret anonymous claims.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 5:40:13 PM

Re: Vianna post# 197861

Post # of 197881

FFGO - Nothing posted to support claims that the dividend has been canceled by the company.

Reason...

Company has not filed with the SEC or notified shareholders via email to support such claims.

Writes would not be wise ahead of 3449% ROI.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:17:25 PM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 197881

FFGO - GNCP is about to release a bunch of filings. Wonder which one of those filing will include NMGL Preferreds.

Tic Toc



diamondguru-one   

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:30:58 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 197876

Post # of 197881

"SUPER 8K filing" ?? Hmmmmmmm....

THE GREEN BARON HAS ISSUED AN EMAIL ALERT REGARDING GNCC CAPITAL ( A LOWENTHAL COMPANY)


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=74175596



Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 11:04:23 AM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 1053

"backlog of major news, filings, etc."

I wonder what they could be!



The Green Baron . com has picked GNCP as a stock to watch for April. They issued a buy alert at .025 and some info re; a couple of big sellers that beat the price down from .08 and supposedly those shares have been cleaned up and was the reason for the delay in announcements from the company. Now that the major seller is out of the way the stock is steadily moving up a little each day.

The GB is advising members to set their news alerts for GNCP and that a sizeable shareholder awareness campaign from outside services will launch to coincide w/ news starting to be released from the company. The Green Baron said they're frustraded by the delay but that it provided a great buying op at 2 - 3 cents (which it did) but now it's time to see if it can start the climb back up to much higher levels. GB seems to indicate that there is a backlog of major news, filings, etc. that once it begins will continue strongly and push the volume and price to much higher levels and the shareholder awareness campaign should bolster those efforts.

GB says that even a few trades moves the stock and I've seen exactly that FWIW. Doesn't seem to take much volume so we need news to get that volume going.

The Green Baron offers free mobile stock alerts direct to your inbox and/or mobile device (which is how I found out about GNCP). You can sign up on their website...IT'S FREE

Good luck to all on GNCP and hopefully the PR's start to flow soon. Price lookin' good today...so far



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:31:49 PM

Re: diamondguru-one post# 197879

Post # of 197881

Looks like Super 8K might be on its way.

Sure explains the market maker activity as of late.

Tic Toc



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:31:49 PM

Re: diamondguru-one post# 197879

Post # of 197881

Looks like Super 8K might be on its way.

Sure explains the market maker activity as of late.

Tic Toc



Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:15:08 PM

Re: puppydotcom post# 1025

Post # of 1053

I can see how your Trap Shorty theory might be working after all!

Waiting for the announcements!

Good to see a Fresh point of view here, after all the fantasy predictions by some!

"If announced, I'm pretty sure we will find out it's a trap for Mr Nasty Naked Shorty pants "~puppydotcom



maddog gene   

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:15:10 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1040

Post # of 1053

moving on green baron recommendation..possible company news in the near future..



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:16:19 PM

Re: maddog gene post# 1042

Post # of 1053

I would expect company to make a number of major announcements.



konantroutman   

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:19:43 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1043

Post # of 1053

From the way the share price is moving I would be expecting the same.

Go GNCP!!!!!!



maddog gene   

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:20:55 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1043

Post # of 1053

any time frame a week or month?? it as been a while since they have released any news?



konantroutman   

Monday, April 09, 2012 4:50:35 PM

Re: maddog gene post# 1045

Post # of 1054

No need to rush it, We are moving up just fine without any at this point.



maddog gene   

Monday, April 09, 2012 5:04:58 PM

Re: konantroutman post# 1046

Post # of 1054

its great to see you on board !



konantroutman   

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:48:47 PM

Re: maddog gene post# 1047

Post # of 1054

Glad to be on board. This one is just getting warmed up.




SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 6:51:32 PM

Re: konantroutman post# 1048

Post # of 1054

GNCP - News will take this to much higher ground. It is also possible many of the companies affiliated with the principles will be effected by the filings.

Good Luck to all!



Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 8:11:42 PM

Re: None

Post # of 1054

GNCP — Attorney Letter with Respect to Current Information

3/27/12

ALEX R. STAVROU, ESQUIRE
Alex R. Stavrou, P.A.
334 South Hyde Park Ave
Second Floor
Tampa, Florida 33606
Phone: (813) 251-1289
Fax: 258-1810

http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=GNCP&id=75994



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 8:18:10 PM

Re: Bull Finch post# 1050

Post # of 1054

GNCP - It appears that all assets of the sisters may find their way here.

Preferreds are a great thing!

Market makers very active lately.

Volume picking up!

Tic Toc



OldBen 

Monday, April 09, 2012 8:32:05 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1049

Post # of 1054

I decided to pop over here after you mentioned GNCP on another board. At 9 cents a share, it appears that based on $500 million authorized shares, the market value should be $45 million?? Knowing nothing about this company, is there any justification for believing that GNCP is worth $45 million?? How much of the $45 million is based on actual business operations and how much is based on possible NSS activity??



Bull Finch 

Monday, April 09, 2012 8:34:05 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1051

Post # of 1054

If that is the case the Shortman is in trouble!

Puppydotcom's Trap Shorty theory is looking more and more like a Reality!

"If announced, I'm pretty sure we will find out it's a trap for Mr Nasty Naked Shorty pants "~puppydotcom


"GNCP - It appears that all assets of the sisters may find their way here.

Preferreds are a great thing!

Market makers very active lately.

Volume picking up!

Tic Toc"~SevenTenEleven



SevenTenEleven 

Monday, April 09, 2012 8:46:19 PM

Re: OldBen post# 1052

Post # of 1054

GNCP - I think we are at the verge of better understanding those questions.

I have no doubt, that doubt will be a means to prevent investors and shareholders from understanding.



AKFish   

Monday, April 09, 2012 8:46:29 PM

Re: diamondguru-one post# 197879

Post # of 197882

Wonder if they are just waiting for tax season to be over??



AlanC

Monday, April 09, 2012 9:36:17 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1054

Post # of 1055

FINRA short sales reported today for GNCP

20120409|GNCP|99000|0|151000|O

65.6% of total volume today was short sales
Go GNCP!!!



Lebron23   

Monday, April 09, 2012 9:55:27 PM

Re: medchal post# 197883

Post # of 197884

Since the "company no longer exists (literally)"...why post?
It appears that moves are being made to setup multiple SEC filings!



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

Last edited by Bull Finch (2012-04-09 21:09:26)

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#1498 2012-04-10 12:02:20

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Bancorp International Group Inc (fka BCIT)

Moderators:weebie, allezlOM, f1fans, camper9, AlexI, CarltonH

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3879



fourkids_9pets 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:01:46 AM

Re: fourkids_9pets post# 9440

Post # of 9442

BCIT >> another post worth noting

i have to say every time i think the incompetence or arrogance
of the sec >> can't get any worse >> they manage to prove me wrong

===


CarltonH

Share
Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:58:42 AM
Re: op9171787 post# 150386

Post # of 150447

Mr Greene has a big problem. It is acceptable to make an error and to be pass incorrect information in ignorance, but he and his department were advised by us and BCIT in January of their mistakes and yet they continue to perpetuate them.

Last week a member of SEC Colorado was served a cease and desist letter for continuing to pass false and misleading information to investors.

The SEC mission statement says

The mission of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is to protect investors, maintain fair, orderly, and efficient markets, and facilitate capital formation

And

Crucial to the SEC's effectiveness in each of these areas is its enforcement authority. Each year the SEC brings hundreds of civil enforcement actions against individuals and companies for violation of the securities laws. Typical infractions include insider trading, accounting fraud, and providing false or misleading information about securities and the companies that issue them.



AlanC

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:20:51 AM

Re: fourkids_9pets post# 9440

Post # of 9442

I wonder if any of those accounts that are short are IRA or SEP accounts. Will the SEC or FINRA investigate and do something about this? How much fraud are they willing to accept?



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:29:26 AM

Re: Joda post# 150442

Post # of 150472

I was always under the impression the SEC were supposed to stop the passing of false and misleading info, not do it.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:30:23 AM

Re: BigMoneyAtl post# 150440

Post # of 150472

Cease and Desists have been sent to the Ms Erickson of SEC.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:37:19 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150405

Post # of 150472

You can't sue people for what somebody else did

Actually you can. Vicarious liability enables courts to convict employers for the illegal conduct of their employees even though the employers had no knowledge and so were not at fault.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:40:59 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150397

Post # of 150472

Have you forgotten that you received a summons and complaint?

No they haven't, but then again the genuine investors have not forgotten that their brokers took their money for shares they did not own and could not deliver.


camper9   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:24:45 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150416

Post # of 150473

From page 7 of the PDF you posted yesterday:

The company cannot communicate directly with OBOs, so all communications with OBOs must be made through the relevant intermediary.

So it appears that OBOs can receive communication from the company, it is just that the company cannot send the communication directly to the OBOs.



Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Once again, the POINT of being an OBO is NOT to receive communications from the company.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



mastaflash 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:36:29 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150450

Post # of 150473

So you agree, it is the brokers that are the problem. Excellent!



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:47:19 AM

Re: Joda post# 150452

Post # of 150473

Time to stand up, time to fight!

Magnificent response to yesterdays request you have no idea what that will do to help the cause.
Keep Them coming.

Thank you.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:51:11 AM

Re: janice shell post# 150456

Post # of 150474

Why are the authorities so hell bent on shafting the victims on this case not the villains.

They got the Investors sued and then tried to revoke the company that was the victim of an identity theft and fraud.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:52:19 AM

Re: camper9 post# 150451

Post # of 150475

That is correct which is why Broadridge were doing the mail shot.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:12:07 PM

Re: weebie post# 150459

Post # of 150475

Fraud not breach if contract.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:13:59 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150460

Post # of 150475

Not as big as a broker writing in September 2005 to a client and saying there was no naked short. This is despite his firm having sold 117 times the public float.



CarltonH 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:15:14 PM

Re: NI43-101 Or Bust post# 150461

Post # of 150475

Public memory is short although not as short as the brokers.

In the words of Dr Sheldon Cooper "Bazinga"




camper9   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:22:43 PM

Re: janice shell post# 150467

Post # of 150475

Yet, the second-hand word (via an imaginary friend) of a random person at ADT is accepted as representing the opinion of ADT corporation regarding BCIT.


Quote:
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I'm not sure I'd agree with that. The online brokerages never can get their help desk people on the same page. It's pointless to ask them questions.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



op9171787   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:41:08 PM

Re: op9171787 post# 150471

Post # of 150475

People, please Call the SEC & demand they STOP PROMOTING this kind of LYING TRASH about BCIT, call this Robert Greene, who is SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO HELP US. as I have emailed him at help@sec.gov - SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE a problem for people to call him and ask for help:
202-551-6331 (SEC's Robert Greene



op9171787   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:52:59 PM

Re: AlanC post# 150399

Post # of 150475

Yes, absolutely call SEC's Susie Youn - she is a PUBLIC SERVANT & SHOULD BE GLAD to help an American: 303-844-1038 be aware of her arrogance & her stonewalling.



ground_fog   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:54:37 PM

Re: None

Post # of 150475

Dear SEC and Brokers lurking,

If you think we are going away, you are sadly mistaken. We have not yet begun to fight. I will dedicate my life to exposing this fraud and cover up.



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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#1499 2012-04-10 15:18:48

Bull Finch
Member
Registered: 2010-08-23
Posts: 1916

Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)

Moderators:underdog150, SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, Vianna, TomSawyer, Mike2211

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111



GNCC Capital, Inc. (GNCP)

Moderators:SevenTenEleven, Rocket Man, digger1, Bull Finch, vladimirr

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3731



paunch13   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:58:10 AM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 197909

AlanC
I believe it is now just a matter of time and we will all be richer
John




Vianna 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:51:57 PM

Re: A deleted message

Post # of 197909

Fact is...no one can buy FFGO therefore there should be no concern (OR WARNING) that "lest" anyone "mislead" someone? Get my point?

Any statement that the dividend "can't" happen to encourage tax write offs IS misleading. NO guarantees that it will be paid, but the FACT remains...IT CAN!

LONGS will sit and wait until FFGO makes its "COMEBACK" by following through on the dividend, as indicated in their ACTIVE and LIVE website.

http://www.fortfinancegroup.com/

"Lest" that be a lesson to SHORTY!

V

Hola C&D&T



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:23:41 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197903

Post # of 197909

FFGO - Shorts would love 100% write offs! Allows them to close out their open risk.

Good Luck




Vianna

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:45:01 PM

Re: alien42 post# 197903

Post # of 197909

NO WRITE OFFS for me or the others that own 1B or more shares..."with a B" shares...smile

I hate to be repetitive but there is NO NEED for a warning here as NO ONE can by FFGO.

I speak Spanish as well and would translate if that helps.

SO SORRY to disappoint SHORTY!!

V


waveegravy   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:05:30 AM

Re: None

Post # of 1060

good day fellow GNCP investors, I see we are trading again on the offer, a good sign with no news to account for this share price surge over the last couple of weeks. the rumour mill is beginning to turn on this one and I like what I'm hearing.

Time for all to dig a little deeper in to the world of GNCP, I will report back to you with my findings and challenge you to do the same.



maddog gene   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:29:08 PM

Re: waveegravy post# 1057

Post # of 1060

slow day..i was hoping it would breakthru .10 range



Lebron23   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:16:01 PM

Re: None

Post # of 1060

From the Company's website (sorry if this has already been posted previously) http://www.gncc-capital.com/

SEC REPORTING STATUS:

The Company intends to become a “Fully Reporting” Company with the SEC. Upon receipt of the Audited Annual Financial Statements for the period ended September 30, 2011, the Company will prepare and file a Form 10 with the SEC. Upon that becoming Effective, the Company will be fully reporting with the SEC.

The Company filed a Form 15-12G on June 27, 2008 thereby becoming “Non Reporting” with the SEC. This filing ensures that the Company cannot be relegated to the “Grey Market” as a delinquent Filer with the SEC.


digger1   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:01:36 PM

Re: maddog gene post# 1058

Post # of 1060

almost there...tomorrow, tomorrow,
this is getting interesting,
time to spread the word.




konantroutman   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:33:16 PM

Re: digger1 post# 1060

Post # of 1061

No doubt we will see .10's tomorrow. We may see them for a few days, there were a lot of them there to chew through.




Lebron23   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:45:59 PM

Re: Vianna post# 197908

Post # of 197912

V, excellent post! I feel fortunate to have acquired as many shares as I did prior to revocation. FFGO can no longer be bought...........but the LIQUIDATING DIVIDEND is on the way imo.
Gooooooooooooooooooooooo NMGL/FFGO!



Lebron23   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:48:36 PM

Re: None

Post # of 197912

For all who have FFGO shares.........the NMGL/FFGO dividend is LOCKED & LOADED!
If you don't have shares, you are outside the candy store looking in.



mwab52   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:17:55 PM

Re: Vianna post# 197908

Post # of 197916

I agree with you 100%. Thats the reason why i will continue to hold onto my shares. Thanks V

NO WRITE OFFS for me or the others that own 1B or more shares..."with a B" shares...smile

I hate to be repetitive but there is NO NEED for a warning here as NO ONE can by FFGO.

I speak Spanish as well and would translate if that helps.

SO SORRY to disappoint SHORTY!!

V



digger1 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:40:15 PM

Re: konantroutman post# 1061

Post # of 1066

I only see 57500 at 0.10, not much really....

That little block at 0.10 has been there for a while now,

I think it is as good as gone at the open IMHO, early bird gets the worm




AlanC

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:46:26 PM

Re: AlanC post# 1055

Post # of 1066

FINRA short sales reported today for GNCP

20120410|GNCP|30000|0|148900|O

20% of the total volume today was short sales!
Go GNCP!!!



konantroutman   

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:06:15 PM

Re: digger1 post# 1063

Post # of 1068

I agree that is a small amount and it will disapear quickly but I was meaning that it is a bigger amount than what we have been seeing at other levels.



AlanC

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:00:35 PM

Re: digger1 post# 1065

Post # of 1068

FINRA compiles the report based on information provided to them but has admitted its numbers are often understated. In fact in the past few months both UBSS and Credit Suisse were fined millions of dollars for mismarking trades calling short trades as long. Many naked short positions are hidden in ex clearing. Hope that helps.
Go GNCP!!!



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#1500 2012-04-10 22:30:41

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Re: Is this the company that will take the Naked Shortman down?

DHS Holding Co. (DHSM)

Moderators:Admiral Lagrange, SevenTenEleven, goodolboy, Trading4cash, rekcusdoo

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=7860



mattysimone 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 5:37:49 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24959

Post # of 24987

Over 30% short here today DHSM 99,412|0|271,433



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:56:36 PM

Re: mattysimone post# 24962

Post # of 24987

Compliments of NITE & VERT! Lol!



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:32:05 PM

Re: Rich post# 24305

Post # of 24989

Seems International Environments LTD. is giving me a hard time about whether or not DHS is actually working with them. They say it's confidential, even though it was in a PR.

I'm still in contact with them and will update the board.



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:18:42 PM

Re: Rich post# 24965

Post # of 24989

Wow! A business partner not willing to share private information with the general public! Scam I say! Lol!

Glad to hear that they refuse to share confidential information with just anyone.

Some things not yet public, should remain not public!

Good Luck!



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:48:53 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24966

Post # of 24989

How confidential can it be? It was in a PR, doesn't sound too confidential, imo.



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:48:11 PM

Re: Rich post# 24967

Post # of 24989

Specifics were not in the PR. Glad the partner is not disclosing information to just anyone.

Good Luck!




Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:55:33 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24969

Post # of 24989

I didn't ask for specifics, I asked if they had a deal with DHS Holding as the PR had stated.

There's nothing confidential about it and there's no reason for them to withold that info.


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:58:40 PM

Re: Rich post# 24970

Post # of 24990

I am satisfied, as shareholder, with the "no comment" statement. If investors want answers, ask the company, not the private partner.

I commend the partner for their response.

Good Luck!



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:13:02 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24971

Post # of 24990

There's no reason they can't corroborate what was said in DHS Holdings' PR.




SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:39:45 PM

Re: Rich post# 24972

Post # of 24990

Sure they can. They are a private company, partnering with a public company. What they say is material. So they do not disclose anything. Pretty simple. Talk to a lawyer that is knowledgeable. They will say the same thing.

Good Luck!



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:41:28 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24973

Post # of 24990

Lol. I sent them the PR, all they had to say was "yes" or "no".



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:42:52 PM

Re: Rich post# 24974

Post # of 24990

Smart on their part to not comment. They know what is out there lurking. Last thing they want is to be wrapped up in a legal battle created by a short and distort campaign.

Good Luck!



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:45:10 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24975

Post # of 24990

created by a short and distort campaign

What does this.... 'short and distort campaign' mean?



janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:45:24 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24966

Post # of 24990

Glad to hear that they refuse to share confidential information with just anyone.

"Confidential"?? Wasn't it the subject of a PR?


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:47:04 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24977

Post # of 24991

"Confidential"?? Wasn't it the subject of a PR? - janice shell

They are wise to not comment. Leave it to the public partner.

Good Luck!



janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:48:49 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24978

Post # of 24991

The SEC suggests that investors call parties that companies have supposedly contracted with.



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:49:55 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24979

Post # of 24991

Would love to see that SEC recommendation.

If the partner is not public, and they are being questioned on the nature of a public company they are partnered with, any smart business lawyer would advise to be conservative, and abstain from comment.

Good Luck!



janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:51:03 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24980

Post # of 24991


I used to have a link. It was years and two computers ago. Maybe I can find it tomorrow.



janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:54:34 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24980

Post # of 24991

'Fraid not.



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:54:55 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24979

Post # of 24992

I had to send the email twice through their website.

I did it again today and Carlo Arguelles replied back and said "Please let us know if you are interested in our services or if you are looking for a job please send your resume.", lol.

He actually CCed Daniel Arguelles in the reply.

If Carlo won't answer, I'll ask Daniel. If he won't answer, then I'll start calling.

I just can't believe they won't give me an answer.




janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:56:30 PM

Re: Rich post# 24983

Post # of 24992

lol, I'd try calling.



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:58:33 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24982

Post # of 24992

Fraid so...

Good Luck!



Rich

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59:34 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24984

Post # of 24992

I don't speak very good Spanish.



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:00:56 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24980

Post # of 24992

Corroborating a PR shouldn't be an issue. A simple 'yes' or 'no' would suffice.




SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:01:53 PM

Re: Rich post# 24987

Post # of 24992

Really? Ask a real business lawyer. One might be surprised on what they advise.

Good Luck!



janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:02:12 PM

Re: Rich post# 24986

Post # of 24993

Probably they speak English.


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:05:05 PM

Re: Rich post# 24986

Post # of 24993

Did they "say" it in Spanish or English?

Probably they speak English. - janice shell

Did they "say" it in an email or on the phone?

Seems International Environments LTD. is giving me a hard time about whether or not DHS is actually working with them. They say it's confidential, even though it was in a PR. - Rich

I don't speak very good Spanish. - Rich

Good Luck!


Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:08:16 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24989

Post # of 24994

Lol, I was just being facetious.

I'm sure they do.



janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:11:21 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24990

Post # of 24994

Guess the pump is over.



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:14:42 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24990

Post # of 24994

You got that all wrong.

That's not how the conversation went. It's almost bassackwards.


SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:15:53 PM

Re: Rich post# 24991

Post # of 24994

Did they speak English or Spanish when the "said" confidential (english) or confidential (spanish).

Seems International Environments LTD. is giving me a hard time about whether or not DHS is actually working with them. They say it's confidential, even though it was in a PR. - Rich

Lol, I was just being facetious.

I'm sure they do. - Rich

They sound so similar in both languages, I can see how one would not be able to differentiate if they had called.

Good Luck!



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:19:18 PM

Re: janice shell post# 24992

Post # of 24995

Guess the pump is over. - janice shell

You mean the posting which moved DHSM to #1 on breakout boards, yet did not help it to crack the top 25 of "read boards"?

As I have mentioned before, message boards are a dying medium for driving volume. Credible email campaigns and alerts are the best option for companies and/or third parties.

Good Luck!



Rich 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:20:48 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24994

Post # of 24997

Email....

No phone conversation yet. Si?



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:21:18 PM

Re: Rich post# 24996

Post # of 24997

Kudos to them!

Hard to "spin" that response.

http://images.investorshub.advfn.com/images/uploads/2012/4/10/rwlyvCapture.JPG

Good Luck!



janice shell 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:24:22 PM

Re: SevenTenEleven post# 24995

Post # of 24998

lol, tell that to the SNPK guys...



SevenTenEleven 

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:24:48 PM

Re: None

Post # of 24999

DHSM -Short Volume for April 10th - 37%

20120410|DHSM|99412|0|271433|O



5T WD haha

BMFL<OD

next week(s) is here

Who's Next!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI


Shortmans Anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E

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