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I would like for anyone with contributing information this gang of organized message board bashers to provide any information they may have in this regard. This is what I have found out:
Matt Brown, the operator of InvestorsHub (IHUB) was recently indicted for running four different pump and dump scams. I understand he has a close relationship to Janice Shell a/k/a Janice Shell Evans. Janice Shell bills herself as a "master amateur investigator" concentrating the venom-spewing of her and her minions against pump and dumps. So, what's that relationship all about? Is this pretty much proving she is totally bogus, or could this "master amateur investigator" actually have been so inept as to have been in a relationship with someone running four P&D's right beside her without her knowledge?
Some shareholders of the old CMKM Diamonds Inc. stock (CMKX) congregate on the CMKI board (long story). The long-revoked subpenny pinkie has been revoked for many years, yet it is inexplicably a VERY active board. Most of the posters claim to be financially disinterested, and their inordinate amount of time and effort devoted to the board is inexplicable. Janice Shell occasionally posts there. I believe she occasionally uses the alias "Sharasilva" on occasions, but this has not been totally proven in my mind as of yet. There are some of her minions, posting under names like "Greedy Malone", "Factanonverba", "Chunky44", "Reality.Bytes", "Baloney Cleaver", "Mkaykay0", et al. They protect Janice Shell as if she were some benefactor upon whom their total existence is dependent.
I recently exposed "Mkaykay0" as a liar posing as a shareholder. She conned me on a deal to buy the certificate she claimed to be holding (which has pretty much been debunked at this point). I also pointed out that several of these aliases were using certain certain grammatical idiosyncrasies indicating the use of multiple identities, so I don't think there's actually as many of them as it appears on the service. However, they are very active, very deceptive and will scam personal information from you to mount an concerted offensive against you in a heartbeat. They are very exposed and easy to spot on the CMKI board because CMKX has traded in 4 or 5 years, so they have no justification for their incredible investment of time and effort on the issue.
Please post any information you may have on this nest of vipers who are have an obvious agenda. I believe people have been arrested for being paid to go on message boards to assist pump and dump cons. Why is there no equal justice? Why have there been NO arrests for people who are being paid to go on message boards to assist short and distort scammers? Aren't those scales in hand of the famous statute of "Justice"? Where's the equal treatment to the other side of the issue. I hope this thread can help put info together to help rectify this biased enforcement to date. Thanks in advance.
Kilroy Killbasher
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Should have read CMKX has NOT traded in 4 or 5 years. EOM
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C'mon, Factanonverba13 & Mkaykay0. I see you reading. I hear your basher network buzz. Why so hesitant to post your responses here on DeepCapture? Is it because you don't have a Matt Brown here as the operator? Don't have the inside position like you do on Raging Bull, do you? ROFLMAO!
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This post from one of the suspected paid bashers I forgot on the RB CMKI board is funny:
By: greencrow17302
15 Jun 2009, 11:28 AM EDT
Msg. 841916 of 841917
(Reply to 841909 by factanonverba13)
Hilarious read, twarn't it? He has JS and the iHub X board guffawing...
They may be guffawing, but they're surely hesitant to respond in THIS forum, aren't they? LOL!
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From CMKI board on Raging Bull:
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By: reality.bytes
15 Jun 2009, 11:29 AM EDT
Msg. 841917 of 841917
kilroy is dead, I went to his golden shower ceremony at his grave. don't talk behind a dead person, let him rest in hell please.
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I talk a lot for a dead person. This multiple identity poster obviously hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. These paid bashers don't like me very much, do they? LOL!
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Current Status: Over 100 viewings, Raging Bull all abuzz, The Janice Shell crew all supposedly "guffawing" on iHub, yet, NOT ONE of the cowards has the courage to post on Deep Capture! Very telling! Dr. Byrne, Mr. Bagley, and Mr. Mitchell, you have truly made your mark in the battle against illegal downward market manipulation with Deep Capture when you have them trembling in such fear!
Normally, they would be swarming on anyone challenging them. In fact, the hornet's nests at Raging Bull (CMKI board) and iHub are evidence (soon to change, I'm sure, since they control those forums). Yet, NOT ONE of these proclaiming to be upstanding amateur investigators have the nerve to post one post on this form. They are THAT afraid of DeepCapture.Com!
As much as I would like for them to find the backbone to post their lame attempts at justifying their full-time venom-spewing her, I am very impressed at the fact that this is a Deep Capture forum has them trembling in such fear as to stay away from it like it were their plague. In fact, it just might be!
LOL!
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I am guessing that they don't want to reveal their IP addys to the site.
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BillZ, I would have to agree with that. But why? They aren't afraid to do it on Raging Bull. They aren't afraid to do it on InvestorsHUB (IHUB), so why are they so afraid of the Deep Capture message board and not those other two?
It must be because Raging Bull and iHub are "captured" IMHO. I have watched as these guys operate in those milieus with an obvious sense of impunity. I have watched them make complete posters who have challenged them disappear at will, as well as specific posts of others or even their own that they felt went against their agenda.
They know they'll NEVER be able to control this forum, thus, at least at this time, are intent in avoiding this board all together. It's a slippery slope that miscreants can ill afford to traverse. Speaks volumes, doesn't it? LOL!
Thanks for your comment & good luck to you, sir!
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The suspected paid message board bashers are NOT AT ALL COMFORTABLE posting in this forum! Very telling! They profess to be non-criminal philanthropic scambusters. The simple fact is, they are aware of these posts. They have viewed them 150+ times. They rage about them on RagingBull CMKI message board. They are all abuzz on InvestorsHub.com, BUT THE FACTS SEEM TO BE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO FEAR FROM EXPOSURE.
If they were just out to bust some pump and dump scammers, they wouldn't be terrified of DeepCapture.com, would they? If they are providing a legit and beneficial service to investors, why do they fear exposure so and LITERALLY HATE anything to do with DeepCapture.Com.
Check out this post where the well-known paid message board poster "Reality.Bytes" posted on the CMKI board, not only slander against Dr. Byrne, Mark Mitchell, Judd Bagley and the DeepCapture team, but also posted link and contact information for apparently some underworld outfit who specializes in sabotage against web sites. He's urging people to employ these guys to sabotage DeepCapture.com. Here's the post in it's entirety (It looks like I joined two posts, but this was done by him, not me. It's all his single post from (quote) to (unquote):
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By: reality.bytes
17 Jun 2009, 11:18 AM EDT
Rating: post rating 2 Msg. 842193 of 842231
WOW.. this is posted on that crackpot site deepcaptured. definitely some illegal criminal activities are going on that site. no wonder kilroy the criminal paid pumper took sanctuary there, because he is a criminal.
somebody needs to report these criminals running the deepcapture site to the FBI/DOJ/CIA/NSA
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http://www.deepcapture.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=72
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It's message # 842193, but since they have insiders on RagingBull.com, it'll probably be erased pronto. Very telling, isn't it?
Kilroy
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Interesting post today on Raging Bull's CMKI board by a good DD'er named silverbulletny1:
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By: silverbulletny1
12 Jul 2009, 06:58 PM EDT
Msg. 849223 of 849336
lawsuit janiceshell greedymalone etc........
By: AlanC [obviously from another RB board]
11 Jul 2009, 07:49 AM EDT
Msg. 1183143 of 1183147
(Reply to 1183142 by mquietstorm3)
mq3: These are interesting times to be sure.
Found this interesting even though I do not own the stock nor have I done any DD on it:
http://www.minamargroup.net/duallisting.php
Especially interesting to me is the suit against Investors Hub, Janice Shell, Jim Bishop and others: http://www.minamargroup.com/docs/562912037.pdf
and greedy malone in there too................
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This new suit shows Janice Shell and Matthew Brown both defendants. This is EXTREMELY odd since Janice Shell is the hailed "Queen of Pump & Dump Scambusters" and Matthew Brown was recently indicted for orchestrating not one, but FOUR different pump and dumps.
Plus the infamous Greedy Malone is shown as a defendant. Of course, that's not his real name. But he is a notorious and extremely devious basher. In that vein, this following post on that Raging Bull CMKI board tonight might shed more light in his regard:
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By: rocky_gibraltar
13 Jul 2009, 12:56 AM EDT
Msg. 849335 of 849335
(Reply to 849332 by reality.bytes)
"I can tell you that laptoptrader and janice shell were part of my group until he left last week, as was ninaturtle. Others who have been part of this include early bashers like hard data and Investorman."
"San Francisco-based press release distributor BusinessWire announced late Monday that it has filed a federal court lawsuit against Jeffrey Mitchell, William Ulrich and Janice Shell after they posted an April Fools press release through its service. The company alleges violations of federal and state trademark laws, fraud, breach of contract, defamation and conspiracy and seeks unspecified damages and injunctive relief.
"Janice Shell Works for Gerard Mooney (incise,scion) Read What if a Alert was issued like this one: Immediatly copy this post to your hard drive, or floppy, RB will erase it with in 20 minuets due to exposing Janice Shell, and employers! RB protects bashers Janice Shell and Scoin aka incise due to the hits they generate for RB, and RB protecting shorted positions continualy"
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40363
Hmmmm.... Gerard Mooney. Same initials as Greedy Malone
Didn't Greedy say his "farm" was in the Detroit, Michigan, area? Well, lookie here:
Gerard Mooney
[address deleted]
Grosse Pointe, MI 48236
[phone number deleted]
(Grosse Pointe is a suburb of Detroit).
No, I think it might be more rural setting, since he said "farm". But, we know he's not a farmer, so how about an attorney? When I Googled Gerard Mooney, an attorney named John G. Mooney of Mooney & Gilboe, PC, popped up. Where was he located? Northwest of Detroit in a more rural setting. He does estate planning, trusts, etc.
Mooney & Gilboe, PC
[address & phone number deleted]
Bingham Farms, MI 48025-4542
[phone number deleted]
John G Mooney
[address deleted]
Beverly Hills, MI 48025-3947
[phone number deleteed]
Age: 55-59
Hmmmm.......
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Well, it looks like there was another possibility found for the infamous Greedy Malone based on the info provided by the aforementioned posters:
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By: rocky_gibraltar
13 Jul 2009, 02:08 AM EDT
Msg. 849341 of 849341
Hey, here's a Gerard Mooney that is a Yale School of Management alumni:
http://mba.yale.edu/alumni/alumni_leaders/mooneyg.shtml
and what's his specialty listed as?
Private Equity & Venture Capital
Oh, my!
He's in the NYC area (close to Wall Street)and not Michigan, but Greedy was probably just using "satire" when he mentioned the Detroit area anyway. LOL!
(unquote)
At this point, I caution the reader. At least two of these possibilities are INNOCENT people. In fact, it's possible none of the three are the infamous Greedy Malone. This is just the posters conjecture based on the aforementioned other posts by other posters.
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Regarding Janice Shell, if you've been reading the expose', you're familiar with the convicted Anthony "Nine Fingers" Elgindy. The more I read of him, the more I get infuriated. He's of Egyptian origin, from what I understand. I also understand he dumped most of his stock holdings Sept. 10, 2001 (the day before the terrorist attacks) and was quoted as saying the market would crash tomorrow. He bribed FBI agents, etc. In other words, he's as dirty as they come.
Janice Shell promotes herself as an "amateur investigator" and "scambuster". She claims to be an art historian living in Milan, Italy. She did write a book or two on art history, but you can bet there were no voluminous sales, and there's no way she's lived off that income, since her last book was 15 years ago or so. What is she doing now? She's a board moderator in IHUB (CMKX board & possibly others). Must pay well.
After it became increasingly evident she wasn't supporting herself with the books, she now tries to pass herself off as a government employee of some sort (LOL!). Since when does our government pay people to moderate a message board all day long which exclusively bashes stocks (when she's not diverting heat from herself by changing the subject to some stupid pictures of deer when the heat gets too hot, LOL!). She immediately deletes any posts which sheds light on miscreants and bans posters who don't fit her agenda. On the CMKX (revoked for 5 years... a long and controversial story) board she moderates for IHUB, she actually has banned most of the shareholders from posting (except for some she feels are good targets for her skills). She bashes Deep Capture like crazy, of course.
Anway, back to her and Elgindy. You would think a scambuster would be attacking such an obvious market miscreant tooth and nail, right? Not Janice! She ACTUALLY TESTIFIED AT THE ELGINDY SENTENCING IN AN EFFORT TO MITIGATE HIS PUNISHMENT after he had been proven guilty. Here's the proof:
PAGE 40:
Janice Shell, member of Silicon Investor: I’ve known Tony (Amr) Elgindy for about eight years . . (through) the Silicon Investor financial message board. The Tony Elgindy that I know helped expose a great many scams. While his activities in this line may have hurt some individual shareholders, in the long run they were of help to the financial markets and to the investing public in general.
PAGE 48:
(Janice Shell) (“I wasn’t a member of his ‘club’, but I knew many members, and I most certainly did not and do not believe it was the evil cabal that some have described. My impression is that it was a fairly ordinary, if rather pricey, investment club, to which members contributed information, research and stock picks.†)
Here's the link to the document:
http://www.asensioexposed.com/apdefsentencing.pdf
She (and her minions who school around her board like sharks attacking anyone who challenges her) claim that everyone is taking the above evidence all wrong. She wasn't trying to help Elgindy get his sentencing mitigated. Then, pray tell, what is the purpose of someone testifying complimentary information at a convicts sentencing if not to mitigate his punishment? Those crooks are so transparent yet will deny, deny, deny! Time for cuffs!
When confronted about her income, she now tries to pass herself off as a government employee of some sort (LOL!). Since when does our government pay people to moderate a message board which exclusively bashes stocks (when she's not diverting heat from herself by changing the subject to some stupid pictures of deer, LOL!).
Her "minions" can't be that blind, so they must be complicit. Are they just some folks that she has somehow blinded to the above facts, or are they on her payroll. Most I've read are idiots, but I don't think they are ignorant in that regard, so I vote "complicit" and "compensated" in one form or another. JMHO
When are they going to give this "books-to-message-board" author the "Silver Bracelets Award" to which I feel she is so entitled? LOL!
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Mina Mar Group Wins Slander Lawsuit Against the Investors Hub
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Mr. Justice Belobaba, Ontario Superior Court Of Justice awarded judgment in favor of Mina Mar Group, and awarded $75,000 in general damages, $10,000 in punitive damages and $20,000 for the trial costs to the company.
This was never about the money but rather principle. These stock bashers should not be allowed to destroy other peoples reputations and businesses with slanderous and malicious posts on the Internet
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untrue and are and were made without any foundation nor basis for any of their
content
5... THE COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants, Robert Zumbrunnen, Matt Brown
and InvestorsHub.com Inc. apologize and publicly retract the libelous
statements made against the Plaintiffs and that they shall send their signed
retraction to the Plaintiffs and publish the same on the web site,
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6. THIS COURT ORDERS that Robert Zumbrunnen, Matt Brown and
InvestorsHub.com Inc. provide the names and addresses of the following of its
members and posters:
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Livingstyle, Soyelpato, AccipiterO, strongtower, snow, peraire, and Fast Flyer
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Refreshing to see a website like yours. I have been personally dealing with Greedy Malone for a while on IHUB, at BEHL forum. I also noticed that he was being protected by IHUB but today it was confirmed. someone posted a link about the suit of minamar group against IHUB where Greedy Malone is mentioned as a basher. it was deleted by IHUB after I read it, (in few short minutes).
Good Job Guys! Keep it up. Those A holes that think they can get away with bashing and stock manipulation should be sh*tting their pants now. Especially Greedy because he was not on BEHL board for several days, which is unusual, only to return today. He pretends to be a farmer on BEHL board. I exposed how he almost always posts between 9 am to 5 pm EST and never posts on weekends. So much for a farmer's schedule.
Dozens of people asked him why he spent so much time on BEHL , about which he claimed to be DISINTERESTED, or other boards exclusively to post negative comments about selected stocks. He never answered. Most of the messages about him were deleted by IHUB, where posters have been banned or restricted. I myself have been put on 1 post per day restriction because of questioning the bashers and their motives. I dont like pumpers but I detest paid bashers. It is because it is relatively easier to spot pumpers with their silly jargon and empty talk. Paid bashers like Greedy_Malone (aka greedy_malone, Greedy Malone, greedy__malone) are a different animal though, especially when they are protected by moderators. I hope more people find out about your website and find the truth. I hope SEC does something about this though that may be just wishful thinking.
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I've been out of this stuff for years but did pen this essay in 2006. It's important to note that EVERY patriarch in the Elgindy family has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. The "unfair trial" Jeffrey Mitchell claims Elgindy rec'd was the result of a US task force investigation (Capital Markets Unit of the Terrorist Financing Task Force in Washington, D.C.) headed by Ken Breen. It's purpose was to investigate whether profiteering occurred in the financial markets in anticipation of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Mitchell is right in the sense that it was an "unfair trial". All Elgindy's ties to terrorists were not allowed to be heard. The facts are that Elgindy used Silicon Investor as a profit center not only to manipulate stocks, but also to procure financing for terrorist fronts like the KLA-operated al Qaeda front, Mother Tereza. I have no desire to get involved with this stuff anymore, but I would catagorize Mitchell as a very dangerous person and suggest all to steer clear of him. Though naked shorting is certainly something that merits investigation, my OPINION is much of the manipulation via the message boards has to do with the dirty money (financing) that is laundered in the form of stock through tightly-held & thinnly traded pink sheet markets. Because of this, the presence of criminality is no surprise. Those involved in trading these issues are not choir boys and some are even protected by regulators and agencies that are supposed to be protecting investors. It should be no surprise that if organized crime launders money via the capital markets that terrorists and clandestine ops do as well. They share the same banking networks. My advice is to steer clear from those who defend the status quo passionately. Losing money is one thing, losing your life is another.
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Gary, good job! Excellent expose' on Elgindy. Thanks for the link. Everyone should read it. With your permission, I will repost the link to your article below for ready accessibility:
http://www.onthecanvas.com/all_american_boy.htm
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they are very active, very deceptive and will scam personal information from you to mount an concerted offensive against you in a heartbeat. They are very exposed and easy to spot on the CMKI board because CMKX has traded in 4 or 5 years, so they have
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Killroy-
You'll be happy to know Janice Shell still remembers you. She has destroyed our ETLS message board at Ihub. This is what I wrote to her:
"I've got a question for you, Janice. Do you know a man by the name of Kilroy?"
Her response:
"I imagine you mean the idiot who posts at RB and perhaps yahoo? No idea who he is, but he ought to do something with his unhealthy obsessions."
She, laurap, and i-hub have been teaming up against us. Anyway, I thought you'd get a kick out of that.
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Gonzo,
Thanks for that info, LOL! I laugh because of her use of the term "unhealthy obsessions". When it comes to her detractors, Janice and the Elgindy/Antar crime crews use that term as a threat. In other words, anyone who points out any of the facts about their criminal activity is likely to suffer physically. It's the most legal way they have found to make death threats against anyone who tries to expose their criminal enterprise. Of course, they don't frighten me one bit. Bring on all the ills their "Pandora's Box" can muster. LOL!
Good luck to you, sir!
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Re: Lawsuits against Janice Shell
Post by beckins on Aug 15, 2008, 2:39pm
To fill this void, cybervigilantes--ordinary online investors who have taken to policing their territory themselves--have sprung up all over the Web. They are relentless about exposing cyberscamsters, or anyone operating online who appears the least bit dubious. On Silicon Investor, there is now a "thread" entirely dedicated to "Stocks That Should Be Investigated by the SEC." Other sites go after individuals--suspected con men. Still others warn investors of questionable Internet stock tip sheets.
The unofficial queen of the cybervigilantes is Janice Shell, a 50-year-old art historian who lives in Milan and got hooked on busting online con men after she was burned in an Internet investment scheme two years ago. A tireless--even obsessive--pursuer of online malefactors, Shell says she spends 12 hours a day trolling the Internet, looking for crooks. Thanks to this single-minded dedication, she has become a celebrity--at least to those who hang out on Silicon Investor. There are two threads devoted just to her: "Janice Shell for President" and "Janice Shell--A Retrospective."
In the past two years, Shell says she has exposed an investor relations director with a murder rap, a so-called biotech company that really sold kitty litter, and a CEO who claimed to have run the largest corporation in Nevada but who was really the head of a two-man air-conditioning repair shop. "God help us if [Shell] ever goes to work for the hypester pump-and-dump gang," one admirer gushed in an August posting. "Being an international sex symbol is hard work, but someone has to do it."
In June, Shell took note of a mining company called Mountain Energy. What caught her eye, she says, were postings announcing that the stock, then trading for pennies, would soon hit $5. Shell started digging, and here is what she says she found out: An "informant" told her that Mountain Energy's management team had once been charged with fraud. She also heard that the firm's main asset--a tract of land Mountain Energy claimed was worth $200 million--was worth little more than $100,000.
Between June and August, Shell posted her findings on Silicon Investor, warning investors to stay away. During that time the stock, which had earlier climbed 200%, fell from $1.70 to 22 cents. That's when trouble began. Investors who had already bought Mountain Energy stock were furious. "These Bulletin Board Stock Guardian Angels...why don't they want us honest investors to make money?" complained one. Finally, in late July the SEC halted trading in the stock. So far it hasn't taken any further action, but it still has its eye on the company. Meanwhile, the company's management has resigned and dismissed all its employees. "A lot of people were really hard on her; they didn't believe her, but she was right all along," says Bill Liang, a medical researcher at Harvard who invested $3,000 in Mountain Energy. "We should have listened."
What's Mountain Energy's side of the story? FORTUNE tried calling company headquarters. The phone was disconnected.
Shell has been accused of being an underhanded broker, a short-seller...and a whole lot worse. ("Well, Miss Janice, protector of the small investor," reads one typically creepy Silicon Investor posting, "you must be very tired of being the north end of a south bound donkey, a.k.a. horse's a**.") She's even received death threats. But Shell isn't fazed--she's far too busy defending her fellow investors, whether they like it or not. "There are a bunch of psychos out there--I'm not exaggerating--each one weirder than the next," she warns.
How easy is it to con online investors? Shell wanted to find out. Last April Fools' Day, she and seven other cybervigilantes set up a phony IPO for a firm that promised it could cure the year 2000 problem. They named the firm FBN (for Fly By Night) Associates, established a Website for it, and started a forum on Silicon Investor where they announced FBN's public offering. The site was a doozy: It included information about FBN's hot product, seductively named NeuralNet2000; a section on careers at FBN; and a slew of glowing press releases with headlines like "FBN Cures Y2K Bug." They even created a very legitimate-looking issue of FORTUNE with a cover story about FBN. There was one small giveaway: a press release that noted, "FBN to receive papal blessing." But even that did nothing to slow people's interest in FBN's IPO: Shell was inundated with E-mails requesting the prospectus and other information about the company. "Now that I know how people do these things, I'm thinking maybe I should do it myself," says Shell with a laugh. "I could make a lot of money."
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Lot's of info on the internet about her.
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Oh BTW, this was released just yesterday. Check out the link for full article.
finance.yahoo.com/news/LIGATT-Security-International-pz-2806570228.html?x=0&.v=1
ATLANTA, July 12, 2010 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- LIGATT Security International (Pink Sheets:LGTT - News), a cyber security company, today announced that the company has filed a civil and criminal complaint against IT consultants Chris Riley and Ben Rothke as well as former Cyber Group Network employees, Randolph Morris, Nisha Kappor and others for alleged stock bashing.
According to LIGATT, the alleged stock bashers do not own any stock within the company and bash LIGATT Security on investor websites in order to manipulate the company's stock for their own personal reasons. One alleged basher has posted over 500 posts within the last 6 months on investor sites such as Investors Hub, Yahoo.com, and many more.
"These bashers think because they use different usernames and setup accounts with false information they can't be tracked, but this is what LIGATT Security does every day," says Gregory Evans, CEO of LIGATT Security International.
Evans explains that he hopes to set a trend by starting these investigations. "Once we begin suing bashers, other OTC companies will follow. 99% of these people who are bashing the company's stock have never ran a business, or know anything about business. They think that they can spread lies about a company with no repercussions, and that will not happen with LIGATT," says Evans.
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That excerpt/article (from 1998, I believe) about Janice Shell being being a benevolent cyber-vigilante is laughable. They make it sound like her routine full days of bashing companies is done out of some philanthropic motivation. Nothing could be further from the truth. Supposedly, she supports herself as an "art historian" and lives comfortably in Milan, Italy, off the royalties she received from her book written over 15 years ago. Of course, being an "art history" book, it's safe to assume that it was not on the best seller list. In fact, I venture to say that few outside of a few friends and herself bought copies. So, she's not sustaining her global activity from that source of revenue. Therefore, what source of revenue IS supporting Janice Shell and her minions of "voluntary" cyber-vigilantes?
And, since when do we glorify "vigilantes"? Aren't vigilantes criminals? Aren't we taught that, as good law-abiding citizens that we are NOT to take the law into our own hands? Isn't the proper course to turn over any hard evidence of fraud or criminal activity to the proper authorities? Why would a responsible financial press encourage others to take the law into their own hands, i.e., find someone you think is guilty then just start inflicting as much damage to them as you can without proper process of law? This is nuts.
If Janice Shell had any of the "scambusting abilities" attributed to her, then why is it she is SO selective on which "pump and dumps" she attacks? Her associate, Matthew Brown, who operates the "short and distort" racket-controlled Investors Hub message boards, was operating FOUR different pump and dumps right under her nose, but she conveniently overlooked them. Where was her devotion to investor protection then? ROFL!
Antony "Nine Fingers" Elgindy, the Egyptian-born convict who sold considerable long holdings on the day before the World Trade Club attack (9/10/01), is doing an 11-year sentence for market fraud and bribing FBI agents in his "short and distort" criminal activity. This same Janice Shell, who the above article seems to glorify, voluntarily provided Elgindy's defense team with white-washing testimony trying to make this vile, financial terrorist appear to be a Boy Scout. Why would a legitimate cyber-vigilante be going to such extremes to MINIMIZE the sentencing of a market felon? If she were out to PROTECT INVESTORS, why was she trying to AID a CONVICTED market criminal.
That article is trying to "whitewash" Janice Shell's very profitable "short and distort" racket participation, just as she tried for her fellow market criminal, Elgindy. Shell's minions always point to that 1998 article as vindication for Janice Shell, but it is laughable and fails the test of scrutiny. Janice Shell is a tool of the short and distort racket and nothing more. Enforcement should be ashamed to have let her continue her criminal activity is the guise of some government-approved cyber-vigilante with a license to kill whatever company she deems as unworthy. She's a joke, and enforcement is a joke for allowing her to continue for so long. JMHO
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one of the Liehub crew Buckey was running his fat pompus mouth pretty heavily between January-April this year. Blasting a US/Canadian company as being a scam. He must have posted that info on at least 10 different message boards. The file "they" have on this guy is thick. Not for me to say, I dont think he has terrorist ties like that Elgindy guy, but he's got his meat paws in a few local establishments in Dartmouth Nova Scotia. His website http:/ww.flagstoneoffice.com is pretty interesting. Buckey, Buckey John are a couple of his handles. Yanked his facebook account recently, had a 2007 stanley cup t shirt on with his wife and kid wearing the same. Fotobucket has it, so did Ihub, Buckey was bragging about it, posting from his sons crackleberry. Posted a [suppressed image] on Ihub with the same ticket stub and a back shot of his fat @$$. How do you feel now asshole? They found you! Gonna be real tough to walk around Porters, or did you drink your share away already. Getting yourself banned from that thread didnt curb your loud @$$ rants calling this CEO a liar and a conartist. You called a few scams in your day, 12 by your count, but 1 you got wrong. Mr MBA is gonna be someones bitch in Prison. You'll get to see the family thru a glass wall if the attorneys get everything right. Thats some beer gut there from your Mexico trip, $80.00 bucks a week for your internet connection, to do what? be shitfaced all day, posting on Ihub and SI, Yahoo AB, scam this scam that my MBA I golfed here blah blah blah. Meanwhile the kids are bored, and your Mrs. well the hotels security camera's entertained the hotel staff for a good 20 minutes. She got more towels alright, straight from the mens sauna, but we wont go there cuz you were blacked out at the time. I feel sorry for your kids, growing up humiliated because Dad couldnt let one go. Had to be right, well Mr Right, being wrong is gonna cost ya, better "short sale" your warehouses, that FBI store, lol your house, your inlaws houses and your sister inlaws businesses. Is there such a thing as Bashers insurance?. Theres a new movie coming out, the character John Lawlor is squeeling on his knees like a the pig that he is, begging to courts for mercy. Just like his inbred cousin Matt Brown did when he got squeezed
youre big mouth brought them right to ya, ASSHOLE
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