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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Before the
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934 Release No. 34-63242/November 4, 2010
IN THE MATTER OF 8000, INC.
The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission†) announced the temporary suspension, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the “Exchange Act†) , of the trading in the securities of 8000, Inc., of Manassas, Virginia at 9:30 a.m. EDT on November 4, 2010, and terminating at 11:59 p.m. EST on November 17, 2010.
The Commission temporarily suspended trading in the securities of 8000, Inc. because of questions that have been raised about the accuracy and adequacy of publicly disseminated information concerning, among other things, a cash dividend the company announced it would pay stockholders and Monk’s Den, an investment program and online investor network the company disclosed it acquired in September 2010. The Commission’s investigation in this matter is ongoing.
The Commission cautions broker-dealers, shareholders, and prospective purchasers that they should carefully consider the foregoing information along with all other currently available information and any information subsequently issued by the company.
Further, brokers and dealers should be alert to the fact that, pursuant to Rule 15c2-11 under the Exchange Act, at the termination of the trading suspension, no quotation may be entered unless and until they have strictly complied with all of the provisions of the rule. If any broker or dealer has any question as to whether or not he has complied with the rule, he should not enter any quotation but immediately contact the staff in the Division of Trading and Markets, Office of Interpretation and Guidance, at (202) 551-5777. If any broker or dealer is uncertain as to what is required by Rule 15c2-11, he should refrain from entering quotations relating to 8000, Inc.’s securities until such time as he has familiarized himself with the rule and is certain that all of its provisions have been met. If any broker or dealer enters any quotation which is in violation of the rule, the Commission will consider the need for prompt enforcement action.
If any broker-dealer or other person has any information which may relate to this matter, the Boston Regional Office of the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is investigating the matter, should be telephoned at (617) 573-8900.

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I'm heavily invested in Monk's FLDs. I hate the attack dogs like janice, firelane etc. Can I trust EIGH Audit?

He is in new Den Forum. He posts there.

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pizzaclown     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:05:22 AM 
Re: None     Post #  of 317090   

Naked short selling, or naked shorting, is the practice of short-selling a financial instrument without first borrowing the security or ensuring that the security can be borrowed, as is conventionally done in a short sale. When the seller does not obtain the shares within the required time frame, the result is known as a "fail to deliver". The transaction generally remains open until the shares are acquired by the seller, or the seller's broker, allowing the trade to be settled.[1] Short selling is used to anticipate a price fall, but exposes the seller to the risk of a price rise. Naked short selling has been illegal in the United States since 2008, as well as some other jurisdictions, as a method of driving down share prices. Failing to deliver shares is legal under certain circumstances.[2][3] In the United States, naked short selling is covered by various SEC regulations which prohibit the practice.[4] Many advocates on both Wall Street and Main Street, including Overstock.com's Patrick Byrne, have advocated for stricter regulations against naked short selling. In 2005, "Regulation SHO" was enacted, requiring that broker-dealers have grounds to believe that shares will be available for a given stock transaction, and requiring that delivery take place within a limited time period.[2][5] As part of its response to the crisis in the North American markets in 2008, the SEC issued a temporary order restricting short-selling in the shares of 19 financial firms deemed systemically important, by reinforcing the penalties for failing to deliver the shares in time.[6] Effective September 18, 2008, amid claims that aggressive short selling had played a role in the failure of financial giant Lehman Brothers, the SEC extended and expanded the rules to remove exceptions and to cover all companies, including market makers.[7][8][9]

Some commentators have contended that despite regulations, naked shorting is widespread and that the SEC regulations are poorly enforced. Its critics have contended that the practice is susceptible to abuse, can be damaging to targeted companies struggling to raise capital, and has led to numerous bankruptcies.[4][7][10]


janice shell     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:08:26 AM 
Re: pizzaclown post# 317065     Post #  of 317090   

However, other commentators have said that the naked shorting issue is a "devil theory",[11] not a bona fide market issue and a waste of regulatory resources.

Yep.

pizzaclown     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:09:37 AM 
Re: janice shell post# 317066     Post #  of 317090   

huh?

janice shell     Share   Friday, November 05, 2010 9:53:13 PM 
Re: ryanmnly post# 316883     Post #  of 317091   

Once the suspension is lifted, maybe we'll get another one immediately after so they can investigate the naked short numbers from the audit.

You won't. By law, the SEC can only suspend once, for ten days.

pizzaclown     Share   Friday, November 05, 2010 10:21:57 PM 
Re: ryanmnly post# 316883     Post #  of 317092   

Don't worry they are going to be looking at a lot of things during this suspension.........

The lady in the boston SEC office is very nice

Jagthetrader     Share   Friday, November 05, 2010 11:31:35 PM 
Re: janice shell post# 316925     Post #  of 317093   

You the law but dont know NSS exists...

pizzaclown     Share   Friday, November 05, 2010 11:41:40 PM 
Re: janice shell post# 316930     Post #  of 317093   

No, not that. Maybe just a voicemail that wouldn't get returned or a person who would do the brushoff, deny nss or something like that. Know what I mean? I was pleasantly suprised to hear that all the longs are being well received and are getting some good support.

pizzaclown     Share   Friday, November 05, 2010 11:50:40 PM 
Re: janice shell post# 316943     Post #  of 317093   

You are correct about them not saying anything, but they did say they would look into every "nook and cranny" and I took that as a good thing.....from my position as a long. They are taking the NSS issue very serious. Not just lip service, in my book.

Jagthetrader     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:13:57 AM 
Re: janice shell post# 316968     Post #  of 317093   

I thought you dont mislead people. Until proven guilt they wont go to GREYS.

Jagthetrader     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:21:38 AM 
Re: janice shell post# 316985     Post #  of 317093   

Will trading automatically resume after ten days?

It depends on the market where the stock trades. Different rules apply in different markets.

For stocks that trade in the OTC or the over-the-counter market, trading does not automatically resume when a suspension ends. (The OTC market includes the Bulletin Board and the Pink Sheets.) Before trading can resume for OTC stocks, SEC regulations require a broker-dealer to review information about a company before publishing a quote. If a broker-dealer does not have confidence that a company's financial statements are current and accurate, especially in light of the questions raised by the SEC, then a broker-dealer may not publish a quote for the company's stock

janice shell     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:27:18 AM 
Re: Jagthetrader post# 316992     Post #  of 317093   

Investigations take months. EIGH will reopen on the Greys.

craigw     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:30:40 AM 
Re: A deleted message     Post #  of 317093   


Trading Suspensions!
When the SEC Suspends Trading in a Stock

The federal securities laws allow the SEC to suspend trading in any stock for up to ten trading days. This document answers some of the typical questions we receive from investors about trading suspensions.

When can the SEC suspend a stock from trading?

When it serves the public interest and will protect investors, the SEC may suspend trading. For instance, the SEC may act when public information about a company is not current, accurate, or adequate. The SEC has acted when serious questions arose about a company's assets, operations, or other financial information.

Why couldn't the SEC forewarn me that it was about to suspend trading before I bought the security in the first place?

The SEC cannot announce that it's working on a suspension. We conduct this work confidentially to maintain our effectiveness and to guard against the destruction of evidence if our work becomes widely known. Confidentiality also protects a company and its shareholders if the SEC ultimately decides not to issue a trading suspension. Mindful of the seriousness of suspensions, the SEC moves as quickly as possible when it considers a trading suspension.

What happens when the ten-day suspension period ends? Will the SEC issue a statement about the status of the company after the suspension has ended?

No. The SEC will not comment publicly on the status of a company when the ten-day suspension ends because the company may still have serious legal problems. For instance, the SEC may continue to investigate a company to determine whether it has defrauded investors. The public will not know if the SEC is continuing its investigation until the SEC publicly announces an enforcement action against the company.

Will trading automatically resume after ten days?

It depends on the market where the stock trades. Different rules apply in different markets.

]For stocks that trade in the OTC or the over-the-counter market, trading does not automatically resume when a suspension ends. (The OTC market includes the Bulletin Board and the Pink Sheets.) Before trading can resume for OTC stocks, SEC regulations require a broker-dealer to review information about a company before publishing a quote. If a broker-dealer does not have confidence that a company's financial statements are current and accurate, especially in light of the questions raised by the SEC, then a broker-dealer may not publish a quote for the company's stock.

In contrast to OTC stocks, stocks that trade on an exchange or Nasdaq resume trading as soon as an SEC suspension ends.

If the suspended stock resumes trading, why is it trading at a much lower price?

The trading suspension may raise serious questions and cast doubts about the company in the minds of investors. While some investors may be willing to buy the company's stock, they will do so only at significantly lower prices.

Why would the SEC take such action when it knows it will hurt current shareholders?

Because a suspension often causes a dramatic decline in the price of the security, the SEC suspends trading only when it believes the public may be making investment decisions based on false or misleading information. Suspensions give notice to current and potential investors that we have serious concerns about a company. A suspension may prevent potential investors from being victimized by a fraud.

How can I find out if the stock will trade again after a suspension?

You can contact the broker-dealer who sold you the stock or a broker-dealer who quoted the stock before the suspension. Ask the broker-dealer if it intends to resume publishing a quote in the company's stock.

If there is no market to sell my security, what can I do with my shares?

If there is no market to trade the shares, they may be worthless. You may want to contact your financial or tax adviser to determine how to treat such a loss on your tax return.

What can I do if the company acted wrongfully and I have lost money?

To get your money back, you will need to consider taking legal action on your own. The SEC cannot act as your lawyer. You must continue to pursue all of your legal remedies. For more information about how to protect your legal rights, including finding a lawyer who specializes in securities laws, read our flyer, How the SEC Handles Your Complaint or Inquiry.

To learn how to file an arbitration action against a broker-dealer, you can contact the Director of Arbitration at FINRA or the New York Stock Exchange. FINRA and the NYSE also offer mediation as an option before going to arbitration.

Where can I get information about trading suspensions?

You can find a list of companies whose stocks have been suspended by the SEC since October 1995 on our Web site.

How can I learn more?

We offer educational materials so that you can understand how the securities industry works and how you can avoid costly mistakes and fraud. Our educational materials also provide tips on how you can invest wisely. You can order our free publications by calling (800) SEC-0330, or read them on our Web site. For specific information about the risks of investing in low-priced stocks, see our public



imo there will be plenty of brokers ready to trade eigh when the SEC is finished with the investigation 


pizzaclown     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:44:39 AM 
Re: jetpilot1101 post# 317013     Post #  of 317093   

The SEC opened the door under the guiese of a dividend mistake and will come face to face with something they normally don't like to deal with but will have to......NSS

jetpilot1101     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:11:19 AM 
Re: janice shell post# 317034     Post #  of 317093   

Where did you learn to fly...is there nothing you can't do?

janice shell     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:11:20 AM 
Re: NMC post# 317026     Post #  of 317093   

When I spoke to the SEC Investigator yesterday, she said the investigation would be lifted early is they found no evidence of wrongdoing...

I would be very surprised to learn that she really said that. Perhaps I'll call Monday and ask. I understand that her name's Willis? I'll be sure to ask for her.

janice shell     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:16:46 AM 
Re: jetpilot1101 post# 317039     Post #  of 317093   

I'm always nice. And I won't rant about NSS. That'll be a relief for her

janice shell     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:32:55 AM 
Re: experttrader1 post# 317049     Post #  of 317093   

The Securities and Exchange Commission (“Commission†) announced the temporary suspension, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the “Exchange Act†) , of the trading in the securities of 8000, Inc., of Manassas, Virginia at 9:30 a.m. EDT on November 4, 2010, and terminating at 11:59 p.m. EST on November 17, 2010.

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2010/34-63242.pdf

My God, I have the patience of a SAINT

experttrader1     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:42:46 AM 
Re: janice shell post# 317050     Post #  of 317093   

The federal securities laws allow the SEC to suspend trading in any stock for up to ten trading days.
Seems like we have a difference in opinion here.

experttrader1     Share   Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:21:00 AM 
Re: pizzaclown post# 317071     Post #  of 317093   

I found this on the E board:

mel mel is online now
Administrator

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The Den
Posts: 52
Default What the heck is going on with EIGH?
Monk has asked me to communicate to The Den that what is going on is a result of complaints from bashers at a rate of 100+ per day. Obviously at some point the SEC had to step in to see if what is being said is true.

This is not a set back we anticipated or wanted, but Monk has not sold out as accused by the bashers and actually feels this SEC halt could be beneficial in identifying who has been sorting the stock and could even bring about a buy in notice.

It is very likely that a lawsuit for slander, defamation and/or financial loss will be filed by Monk in the very near future.

Monk is anxious to get back on the board himself!

Mel


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SevenTenEleven     Share   Sunday, November 07, 2010 7:17:40 PM 
Re: janice shell post# 82873     Post #  of 82900   

There was no third party. Etrade added to the screwup by throwing some irrelevant stuff into people's accounts and then removing it immediately. Fidelity, the other major broker that had paid the divvy without waiting to get the money from DTCC, did not make the same error. - Janice Shell

Janice, Explain what error did not make, that E*Trade did.


janice shell     Share   Sunday, November 07, 2010 7:53:40 PM 
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 82876     Post #  of 82898   

EIGH had filed with FINRA to pay a cash dividend of 0.005. That was back in September. They explained in a series of press releases that they intended to raise the amount to more than ten cents before the pay date, which was 15 October.

On the afternoon of 14 October, the company put out a PR informing shareholders that they'd cancelled the dividend.

But it seems they neglected to tell FINRA about that.

Brokerages have the option of paying dividends immediately, as soon as the pay date arrives, without waiting until they get the money from DTCC. There's no problem if the dividend has been issued by a reputable company.

But it was a mistake for Etrade, Fidelity, and a few European brokerages to take that chance with EIGH. On the 15th, dividend payments in the amount of 0.005 began showing up in shareholders' accounts. Some payments were removed over the weekend; most weren't.

Then on Sunday, Etrade shareholders found a notice in their accounts; Etrade had screwed up a code, and showed a payment from Burlington Northern had been made to their accounts and then cancelled. The order in which it was all done makes clear that they'd added that instead of doing what they intended, which was to cancel the EIGH payment. The cancellation of the EIGH payment is the last in the series of operations.

Burlington Northern no longer exists as an independent company. It is now owned by Berkshire Hathaway. Some shareholders concluded that Warren Buffett had been shorting EIGH and had paid the dividend.

Sheesh. The amounts weren't even equivalent. And yet the company glommed onto these silly rumors, and decided to try to pretend the story was real.

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Statement to all Shareholders of 8000inc (EIGH.pk)
5:15a ET November 22, 2010 (PR NewsWire)
On November 8, 2010, the Company became the subject of a trading suspension and an SEC Subpoena "In the Matter of Monks Den."

The trading suspension, which related principally to questions about the accuracy of certain press releases, was lifted at 11:59PM November 17, 2010.

The Subpoena required the submission of documents and testimony of certain persons associated with the Company relating principally to its relationship with Monks Den. Through its legal counsel and advisors, the Company and such Subpoenaed persons are cooperating fully with all requests from the SEC, have submitted the documents required under the Subpoena and the first of at least two SEC depositions to be given in this matter is scheduled for Monday November 22, 2010.

     Preliminarily, the Company wants to state publicly:

    - It is not and has never been involved, independently or in combination
      with Monks Den or its principal(s), in any illegal stock profiting
      scheme (commonly called "pump and dump").

    - The Company has not to date paid for any promotional activity and does
      not engage in any such activity.

    - The Company is a legitimate, active Company which its management feels
      is gaining traction in its redirected business plan and, in fact,
      poised to become successful, among other activities, development of
      its Brand8000 and nurturing the companies it has acquired over the
      last 11 months.

    - The Company accepts that it should have handled certain actions
      differently and is prepared to take all appropriate corrective
      actions, including issuing appropriate corrective disclosures.

    - Nonetheless, neither the Company nor the Subpoenaed persons have
      engaged in illegal stock profiting or market manipulation.



 

In fact, the Company would like to clarify and make public the following:

1. The acquisition of Monks Den was never completed; no payment was made or exchanged; and was not concluded. The Company accepts this aborted transaction could have been clarified earlier and this will be addressed with the SEC.

2. In conjunction with the Subpoena and its full cooperation with the SEC, the business records, activities, invoices, orders, agreements and additional supporting documents submitted have aggregated not less than 8000 pages (some 1.4GB of documents and records).

3. For some 6 months, the Company has been aware of illegal naked short positions and it has submitted stock audit findings and related documentation in the Company's submission to the SEC. This audit was based on the certified stock and certificate count prepared by the Company's Transfer Agent which recorded all stock positions by certificate number and by brokerage account as of September 30, 2010. This data was used as the base line and reference point for the Company's internal audit. Comparison to the certified baseline data identified discrepancies in the trading and stock positions of 8000inc stock. What is of concern to the Company is that significant numbers of shares purchased were not recorded and could not be identified in the Transfer Agents certified records. All data at the certificate and account position level, together with the identified discrepancies and Company's conclusions have been submitted to the SEC in full.

4. In that context, the Company has sent all recorded voicemails and e-mails, including those of a threatening nature, as part of its submission to the SEC.

5. Similarly, the Company has included in its Subpoena response its compilation (including names, websites, relationships) a file of all public boards making false allegations and associations pertaining to the Company and its associates engaging in scam operations, pump and dump schemes or payment for services, etc.

6. The Company will accept any future operational and disclosure directions from the SEC.

7. The Company and its associated persons are redoubling its efforts, looking back and forward, to make full and fair disclosure of its proper business activities.

While the Company regrets the trading suspension and investigation, it is more troubled with the scurrilous comments and false statements about the Company.

The Company will continue to inform and update its investors accordingly.

For more information please visit: http://www.brand8000.com http://www.8000incgroup.com http://www.8000inc.net

Or contact: investors@8000inc.net

This news release contains forward-looking statements that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected on the basis of such forward-looking statements. The words "estimate," "project," "intends," "expects," "believes," and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements are made based on management's beliefs, as well as assumptions made by, and information currently available to, management pursuant to the "safe-harbour" provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. For a more complete description of these and other risk factors that may affect the future performance of 8000inc. see "Risk Factors" in the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-KSB and its other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date made and the Company undertakes no obligation to disclose any revision to these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date made or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

For further information:

For further information: please visit: http://www.8000inc.net, Or contact: 8000inc, 10432 Balls Ford Road, Suite 300, Manassas, Virginia, 20109, USA, t. +1(703)881-7834, f. +1(703)881-7601, e.enquiries@8000inc.net

SOURCE 8000inc


Statement to all Shareholders of 8000inc (EIGH.pk)
9:15a ET November 22, 2010 (PR NewsWire)
On November 8, 2010, the Company became the subject of a trading suspension and an SEC Subpoena "In the Matter of Monks Den." 

The trading suspension, which related principally to questions about the accuracy of certain press releases, was lifted at 11:59PM November 17, 2010.

The Subpoena required the submission of documents and testimony of certain persons associated with the Company relating principally to its relationship with Monks Den. Through its legal counsel and advisors, the Company and such Subpoenaed persons are cooperating fully with all requests from the SEC, have submitted the documents required under the Subpoena and the first of at least two SEC depositions to be given in this matter is scheduled for Monday November 22, 2010.   

Preliminarily, the Company wants to state publicly:

It is not and has never been involved, independently or in combination with Monks Den or its principal(s), in any illegal stock profiting scheme (commonly called "pump and dump").

The Company has not to date paid for any promotional activity and does not engage in any such activity.

The Company is a legitimate, active Company which its management feels is gaining traction in its redirected business plan and, in fact, poised to become successful, among other activities, development of its Brand8000 and nurturing the companies it has acquired over the last 11 months.   

The Company accepts that it should have handled certain actions differently and is prepared to take all appropriate corrective actions, including issuing appropriate corrective disclosures.

Nonetheless, neither the Company nor the Subpoenaed persons have engaged in illegal stock profiting or market manipulation.   

In fact, the Company would like to clarify and make public the following:

The acquisition of Monks Den was never completed; no payment was made or exchanged; and was not concluded.  The Company accepts this aborted transaction could have been clarified earlier and this will be addressed with the SEC.

In conjunction with the Subpoena and its full cooperation with the SEC, the business records, activities, invoices, orders, agreements and additional supporting documents submitted have aggregated not less than 8000 pages (some 1.4GB of documents and records).

For some 6 months, the Company has been aware of illegal naked short positions and it has submitted stock audit findings and related documentation in the Company's submission to the SEC. This audit was based on the certified stock and certificate count prepared by the Company's Transfer Agent which recorded all stock positions by certificate number and by brokerage account as of September 30, 2010. This data was used as the base line and reference point for the Company's internal audit. Comparison to the certified baseline data identified discrepancies in the trading and stock positions of 8000inc stock.  What is of concern to the Company is that significant numbers of shares purchased were not recorded and could not be identified in the Transfer Agents certified records. All data at the certificate and account position level, together with the identified discrepancies and Company's conclusions have been submitted to the SEC in full.

In that context, the Company has sent all recorded voicemails and e-mails, including those of a threatening nature, as part of its submission to the SEC.

Similarly, the Company has included in its Subpoena response its compilation (including names, websites, relationships) a file of all public boards making false allegations and associations pertaining to the Company and its associates engaging in scam operations, pump and dump schemes or payment for services, etc.

The Company will accept any future operational and disclosure directions from the SEC.

The Company and its associated persons are redoubling its efforts, looking back and forward, to make full and fair disclosure of its proper business activities.

While the Company regrets the trading suspension and investigation, it is more troubled with the scurrilous comments and false statements about the Company.

The Company will continue to inform and update its investors accordingly.

This news release contains forward-looking statements that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected on the basis of such forward-looking statements. The words "estimate," "project," "intends," "expects," "believes," and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements are made based on management's beliefs, as well as assumptions made by, and information currently available to, management pursuant to the "safe-harbour" provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. For a more complete description of these and other risk factors that may affect the future performance of 8000inc. see "Risk Factors" in the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-KSB and its other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date made and the Company undertakes no obligation to disclose any revision to these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date made or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

SOURCE 8000inc

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8000 Incorporated (EIGH)

SevenTenEleven     Share   Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:12:41 AM 
Re: Outlaw post# 101008     Post #  of 101024   

I appreciate your time today as we discussed the shares of EIGH currently held in your ShareBuilder account. As confirmed, the shares are held in ShareBuilder's street name for your benefit. As long as the shares are trading on the market, you do have the ability to enter a sale order online....

However, since EIGH is not DRS eligible, we are unable to issue a physical stock certificate for you. If you have another broker who is able to accept the transfer of the shares and issue a certificate for you, we will cover the associated transfer charge ($15 for partial transfer of all EIGH shares). - Outlaw

Trying to figure out how ShareBuilder will "partially" transfer "all" EIGH shares to another broker, when the stock is not DRS eligible? They would have to transfer the certs that are in their name, for your benefit, to someone else's street name, for your benefit. Otherwise, how would the other broker be able to issue certs to match up with those backing up the "electronic markers" in your account? If they issued certs without having the Sharebuilder certs "fully" transeferred, they would be shorting to issue a cert. Also, how could they do this but not be able to send certs to the TA to be converted into "your" name?

This is an utter and disgraceful joke!

There are not enough shares held in the street name to back up all of the "electronic markers" that have been issued, IMO.

"Intra-market maker" settling of trades is why nothing is ever reported on the FTD list or the short interest reports. A market maker uses the certs held in their street name to justify fabrication of multiple shares per actual share held. As long as those shares "IOU's" stay within their trading/clearing system, there is nothing to deliver or to report short.

They will allow you to sell on line because they would love to "close" out your "IOU/electronic marker" at a loss to you and a gain to them. Chances are, that trade would show up as short volume that day, since nothing was actually traded. But why not also show up as a "short exempt"?

The easiest way for EIGH and/or any other pink stock to prove a massive NSS would be for them to initiate a proxy vote and to have every single shareholder submit their proxy vote. This way, when a company with 5B shares issued and outstanding, gets 15B votes for the proxy, they have their proof.

I bet just prior to the "proxy" you would see a massive burst of buying/selling volume in order to close out as many "IOU's" as possible.

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Last edited by Bull Finch (2011-04-23 10:46:40)

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Three-inch dimension belonging to the hole from that tower in yet another route flashed above Wang Lin Back again, eyes tightly looking at only several inches hole, their heads uncovered to shock him to determine the first of all layer of no monk, some, just a darkish armor armor black as being the night can swallow all Guangming Wang Lin physique rather quickly receded, the blood ejected in the mouth once again, Back again, the tower outside carnage flash Xuejian was about to recuperate, he was a white hand grabbed. It's the next layer of your previous guy, now move outside of the tower, to seize that Xue Jian regardless of the sword of their arms easy methods to wrestle, but will also not able to extricate himself. To welcome Ma brothers exterior the tower, that aged man sporting timber, earth armor, in the intervening time look and feel especially respectful, Baoquan whispered opening.

Wang, fear is not any suspense. Last but not least an indication. Referee gallery Su Senju flashed a paper signed sucked in to the palm, unfold slowly, astonished some opening: Liu Qing. Obtained up and opened the window. Distant eyes start looking into your distance. Immediately following all of this time.

Ornithogalum uncovered on the colour of envy, said: Wang Lin, we basically 10 years haven't observed it, you can easily eliminate me Grasp, presumably to build the base? Grasp Feijian particularly highly effective, he once mentioned two fifths of your electrical power are only able to participate in, but only develop the base of the subsequent has been when. Wang Lin shook his head and claimed: not yet constructed the bottom, this Feijian origins? you realize? Zhang Tiger Wang Lin, a remarkably seemed, did not you can ask, but careful assumed, says: as though talked about With major opportunity inside of the mountain cave, he has often been considered a treasure. , scabbard, newborn, Learn scabbard Feijian also concerned about a number of days.
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you only five components Mami source cohesion? Black Wang Lin appeared Mami 5 factors. I'm each seem non killings ruined folder does not again! You scattered it! Black Wang Lin eyes no mild, appropriate hand raised towards the five things Mami waved under this wave, was stunned to search for that the five things Mami exposed struggling that means, but its shape was crashing crash, from Mami state impressively of designed many different channel source, collectively while using relaxation of the five origins shrouded, best suited hand came right to this Black Wang Lin, and in the end into his best hand, and disappear. Now, convey to me, you,.

About fifty percent enough time of incense can pass through that fog with the repression of Wang Lin, the outdoors entire world can not see the slightest shift, after all, Wang Lin soul is mine to mine to sentiment Ray, organically devoid of any flaws. Moment along the cracks sink into the fog of the mine, Wang Lin heart and soul recuperate in the body, naked flashing eyes, a faint Rune. This Rune of mine, excellent Kin moral fog **! Outside of the cracks to show in front of Wang Lin, a towering mountain, the highest in the hills, was extremely high-class silk seat hall, to the walk to lightning, composed of a few Daewoo.

Empire a number of big relatives and refining Pharmacists Affiliation are integrated to variety a coalition of forces, this could become a quick timeframe to ensure forces rose, get rid off the lowest amount is easily the most tiresome methods, and now have a very royal assist, the future is empire inside of absorption and practicing superior talented freshmen blood. Here is the prolonged operate, now we have an outstanding benefit. Not surprisingly, you desire to coach section belonging to the Union's solid, Gong combating skills are necessary, they find out if I'm able to enable a number of significant forces jointly presented.

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Emperor and also other toughness, are type of horror sensed with the heart and soul. That is definitely an overriding ambiance of this bit of earth and heaven! Involving heaven and earth, and diverse eyes centered earlier mentioned the aged Shimen Finally, these eyes are solidified during the earlier mentioned the Shimen over 4 ancient phrase! Ancient Emperor Dong Fu! The heart and soul with the Emperor of Heaven's eyes in the intervening time projection away from the astonishing mild, even by his powers of concentration, witnessed several pursuit on the font for several thousand ages, but will also cannot assist but coronary heart surging. Eventually obtain you ...

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Within just A, Anhu luck, nevertheless the understanding to eliminate Wang Lin, a firmer, his head exposed coldness, and said to himself: On top of that to your toddler can teleport, there may be this glorious Feijian minor person, your physique these things are my vine Li of. A few times later on, a desert over, Wang Lin, a look of dust, Hegan Aura liquid in a very gourd, bitter himself: Aura liquid not any longer ample this pattern continues, will soon be fatigued, and should before long added, Boy, the outdated girl to die, a few days Teleport too many situations considerable, Yuan Ying essence reduction. South Stuart's voice is amazingly weak.

Fingers slash off! Immediate points within a immense When upon a fragment of that finger, straightaway audio of bombers spread throughout the entire yao Win Star, is a result of the earth bursts of volatility as dragon roll like go and slid out. Below a single finger, The moment upon a fragment was the mainland, immediately there have been considerable zones of cracks crack Kaka seem only once on a fragment, but didn't collapse! That finger lift was going to drop all over again, its internal Raincaller of crystal formed monstrous strength of large-scale outbreak, a Road Hongmang this finger mad shot this scene, significantly from seeking particularly shocked! The Baizhang thick, modest awareness is often a lengthy big fingers, in the mean time the lofty Hongmang penetration, from within the injection, as brimming with holes, doing the unlimited entire world of weakness on this finger, swiftly dissipated. The it elevate on Hongmang is additional with a lot more a number of bursts Hongmang.

This not effective at refining the very same establishing keeling remedy! Listed here it comes, in the terms from the aged medications, faint trace of an arrogant bit of a shock for the complexity of this base putting together Ichor, the Xiao Yan subconsciously licked his lips, and experienced to view old medicine refining would seem to acquire realized is quite effortless to receive now, ahead of we know the refining immortality, excess of to the floor of the point see fur. refining pharmacists environment, really huge and unpredictable, no wonder a grudge and also mainland in the most noble occupation. the shock wore off, Xiao Yan soul some joy sip Minzui, mild snicker: Trainer, I never necessarily mean to implement the worst producing keeling option to practice, I intend to just take it into the auction will auction will now be at hand is not really well-off, along with capital around, once we buy considerably better resources, anyways refining the bottom building Ichor, available for you, is but a present of fingers.
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Following a long silence during the space, Wang Lin, sighing loudly, put absent every one of the trivial ideas, meditation exercise alongside one another. Some time wore on, flash and a couple of months. Week woodland retreat however not. Binocular pupil a shrink seriously, his entire particular person, which includes lightning suddenly food. Cents Guardian!! Wang Lin evidently believe, system in 4 JINJIAWANG Han exudes the overall atmosphere this sort of Tashan, 4 Tahan, plainly is from Emperor Xian Qing Lin occult sacrifice refining cents Wei! Cents Methodist divided into gold, silver and bronze iron several degrees, the few shining armor Tahan, realistically attained gold products! Wang Lin is much Exalted watched that mysterious treasure a speedily back again and flashed towards up coming beneath Miles whirlpool the brink of collapse absent. Once the emergence of of four gold Jiasian Guardian, that mysterious treasure Exalted search standard, correct pointing to line the front with the twinkling of an eye, these 4 cents guard quickly a move straight to the moon absent.

Instantaneously cheered loudly - regular monthly passes even more than one thousand you channel the electricity for the Pals of too. Thank you meet suggestible would like. Right until the end for the month. Come to this middle-aged male to guide Wang Lin et al. The body falls sq. on top of. Lessen the Wang Lin juvenile with that token.

Coldness flash 'to the Wang Lin. , Pour some means that 'Wang Lin blood overflow' eyes really is a serene, 'he is familiar with now robbed tricky to trip, a few hour additional like ditch the whole entrance, however, if intend to make him understand dead, however it is certainly out of the question! , No one all around my destiny, Sheng Sijie 'not Okay!'' The moment again in his suitable hand snapped up' an individual finger into the sky, crashing amongst 'this the sky Lanmang is gold appear outside of slim air around towards the scroll' a large handprint 'roaring out, and it is golden! '' Which the Huiyi old man eyes a lower pupil 'Even that old rugged in black is likewise narrowed his eyes. But inside of the handprint the moment 'behind Wang Lin, a shaking Jianqi screaming' with one which Jianqi Yi days with the cold 'has just appeared on the inside of the Wang Lin rear heaven and earth' impressively turned.

Altered. Into Ray crystal temple inside of monks gradually Changhong flies within the sky, a road and galloped off, Zhongda Hong appearance tremendously vigilant In spite of rigorous tear bucket, nevertheless the experience of these supernatural powers monk, he was continue to slightly nervous . Some monks accompanied one another alongside one another more than ten persons became a lot more than a dozen Highway Changhong incredibly products Zhang swept, I straightaway clued off.
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