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spiritthing
Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:38:31 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203287
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That sheds more light on my questions and DD I have been studying. Thanks. I knew there was much more to it than I realized. Spirit
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:40:52 PM
Re: None
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I am going to state this one time only. lol
I am self employed for over 18 years in one business only, it is not posting, trading or supporting stocks anyway shape of form. I trade for fun and post for fun and some times spite here on FFGO. eos..
So lets see the "The Good Ole Boy law suit" and get our divs to us.. $.003449.. Promise us that, "Good Ole Boyeee"!!
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Yep Just The Good Old Boy That got tired! ~ New Trader
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:04:53 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203299
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I am going to state this one time.
I am a significant shareholder. How large is my business. Protecting my investment is my interest.
Have never spoke, or electronically communicated, with a single principle or officer of this company.
I have, in fact, communicated with FINRA, the SEC, and my broker(s) regarding this stock.
All that has been posted is based upon information, and facts, provided by them, as well as information provided by the company in public communications and SEC 8-K filings.
Nothing like any and ALL plans blowing up for those drawing the short straw.
Learned yesterday that there is at least one group naked short selling stocks to no bid. Said group is assumed to be naked short selling above and beyond the float and/or OS and AS of many companies.
A "claimed" representative for said company believes that naked short selling, to these extremes, with no intention of borrowing is legal. It is good to finally get confirmation of abusive naked short selling and how it works.
Also looking forward to those who are responsible for billions of naked short book markers, placed in retail accounts paying 34.49 X's their money for liquidating dividends.
If it is legal to counterfeit billions of electronic equity markers, it is legal to require those doing so to pay up on the dividend.
Tic Toc
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:26:32 PM
Re: None
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Revelations, I am doing fine. Do you rememeber this day.. It was a cold winter day in FFGO.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:47:52 PM
Re: None
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Alanc, sounds like the good ole boyz mean business.. Lets hope they have enough money to get us our divy in FFGO.. $258 mil is a bundle.. $.003449 is going to be painful or actually cheap when GOLD goes to $5,000k oz..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:57:33 PM
Re: varmit post# 203283
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Varmit~ This is very interesting data.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GNCP/news
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-- The possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a
significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at
this time; and
-- The possibility of sharing expenses with the Fund in both exploration
and administration, including Geologists and other professional
advisors, designed to grow both the Company and the Fund fairly
rapidly without the burden of carrying the costs alone, this really
being an exercise of cost savings; and
-- The injection of working capital into the Fund by the Company and to
the Company taking an equity interest in shares of the Common Stock of
the Fund.
The Company will not be considering the acquisition of any additional Exploration Properties until the next Financial Year commencing October 1, 2012. This excludes the aforementioned possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time.
The Company stresses that neither swaps nor acquisition of any interests in any of the Mining Interests residing in the Company or in the Fund will be taking place. All and any transactions being contemplated with the Fund will only be executed if considered to be in the best interests of the stockholders of the Company.
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 6:31:15 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203323
Even more interesting is this about FFGO:
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Varmit~ This is very interesting data. Imo, the Bouse & S Copperstone appear to fit the bill to be the significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property. The two are not owned by NMGL or GNCP as of this PR that I know of.. NMGL is the Broker for FFGOs assets only. Read between the lines in my view. RENS has tailings with gold and silver, significant too.. I feel Subco is ASPA Gold. NMGL owns 75% of ASPA if I recall.. GNCP and NMGL appear to be working to get an income stream.. ASPA has the tailings setting the stage for NMGL and ASPA to get current and go after the GOLD and broker a deal for FFGOs interest in the Class As & Bs..
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=7899208
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GNCP/news
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-- Establishing an income stream to fund exploration expenditure through
the use of fairly complex leveraged and hedged financial instruments
under a proposed arrangement with a third party, this is a financial
engineering model designed to raise capital without the issuance of
shares of this Company's Common Stock and to avoid the addition of
long term liabilities to the Company's Balance Sheet; and
-- Establishing a Gold derivative trading operation to create an
additional income stream and to enhance its capital; and
The possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a
significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at
this time; and
-- The possibility of sharing expenses with the Fund in both exploration
and administration, including Geologists and other professional
advisors, designed to grow both the Company and the Fund fairly
rapidly without the burden of carrying the costs alone, this really
being an exercise of cost savings; and
-- The injection of working capital into the Fund by the Company and to
the Company taking an equity interest in shares of the Common Stock of
the Fund.
The Company will not be considering the acquisition of any additional Exploration Properties until the next Financial Year commencing October 1, 2012. This excludes the aforementioned possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time.
The Company stresses that neither swaps nor acquisition of any interests in any of the Mining Interests residing in the Company or in the Fund will be taking place. All and any transactions being contemplated with the Fund will only be executed if considered to be in the best interests of the stockholders of the Company.
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
diamondguru-one
Sunday, July 15, 2012 6:40:06 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203310
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Glad I'm holding a boatload of this company...FFGO that is....come onnnnnnn "3400%" PLUS ROI !!!!
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 6:48:52 PM
Re: diamondguru-one post# 203311
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Notice in the Filings of GNCP and NMGL they give dates and we get panic style calls for Law suits again in FFGO?
Nothing like shorty being under water, as in billions of shares imo..
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GNCP/news
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NEW YORK, NY, Jul 05, 2012 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- GNCC Capital, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: GNCP) ("the Company") updates its stockholders as to certain transactions that will be included in the Company's results for the Third Quarter ended June 30, 2012, to be published and filed in July 2012. The Third Quarter Report with the Attorney's Letter must be filed with the OTC Markets Group by August 15, 2012 at the latest, to maintain the Company's "Current Information" status.
In addition to these steps taken in the Third Quarter, the Company is providing the required funding, expertise and advisors to both the Fund and to Subco, in order for both of these Companies to file their required financial and other information as is required to establish both of these Companies as "Current Information" with the OTC Markets Group. Both the Fund and Subco recently filed a Form 15-12G with the Commission and currently have "STOP" annotations with the OTC Markets Group. Certain State filings are required to be made by both the Fund and Subco and the cost of the same will be advanced by this Company. This is expected to be completed in August 2012. These funds being advanced by this Company to the Fund and to Subco, will in the immediate term, be accounted for as short term loans.
The Company will not be considering the acquisition of any additional Exploration Properties until the next Financial Year commencing October 1, 2012. This excludes the aforementioned possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time.
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:04:19 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203310
Post # of 203323
Looks like shareholders will be very satisfied with the outcome. It has been a long and often challenging road to remain focused on the end result. A payout of $0.003449 per common share, or more.
Those responsible for billions of illegal naked short sold shares will be forced to pay their fair share.
They have first stated that naked short selling did not exist.
Then they claimed that naked short selling did exist, but only by market makers creating liquidity.
Now we are learning that naked short selling has existed all along and it has been abusive. More often than not, those naked short selling have issued more counterfeit electronic equity than the float, the OS, and in some cases, the AS.
Since those naked short selling are going to be forced to argue that naked short selling is "legal", then they will have no problem paying the "legal" requirements to back up every share they counterfeited with at least $0.003449 per share.
Tic Toc
AKFish
Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:08:19 PM
Re: diamondguru-one post# 203311
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"Cant' Wait" to play lots more golf. $.003449 Ya Baby.
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:16:18 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203314
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So now full circle, naked shorting is legal and even when shorting more than the A/S? lol Well that cold winter day and the FINRA numbers for 2 years showing over 90% total short volume in FFGO each and every day is a sign it was live and well.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:22:59 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203316
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FFGO - Strange that someone naked short selling, and claiming that it is legal, would hide their legal positions, by not reporting them to FINRA.
Will get interesting!
Tic Toc
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:24:31 PM
Re: None
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Remember this? HGLC was drilling..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
5T WD haha
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Rocket Man
Monday, July 16, 2012 12:31:52 AM
Re: ib12u post# 203319
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FFGO ~ NMGL = GNCP.. + FU..lol
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
varmit
Monday, July 16, 2012 1:30:05 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203292
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FFGO well now ...................
muttly dog you are dead wrong . nmgl now referred to as the FUND.....
and subco /gncp have teamed up to show us some results .
. all about those arizona mines bouse and s.c.
almost divvy time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gold going to 2000 plus by years end
.0075 plus the 3 percent interest plus a buck a shre from nss shorts .
it is illegal to counterfit stocks
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but come on mutt 5 trillion authorized at western diversified .
i sure hope u can cover at a buck / it may settle at 4.60
SevenTenEleven
Monday, July 16, 2012 8:37:49 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203324
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FFGO - 10MM oz of Gold in ground and preferreds in WD!
Fantasy claims will not change the facts!
Tic Toc
paunch13
Monday, July 16, 2012 9:50:31 AM
Re: None
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Seven
I believe this will all work out for FFGO sharerolders but the problem is just how long it will take .
John
spiritthing
Monday, July 16, 2012 12:18:44 PM
Re: A deleted message
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I disagree with you. Has much to do with penny stocks. Penny's just made it easier for them to get by with it. IMO of course. Spirit
spiritthing
Monday, July 16, 2012 12:49:53 PM
Re: medchal post# 203338
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The answer will be revealed, the monster has started to show its teeth. Spirit
spiritthing
Monday, July 16, 2012 12:58:03 PM
Re: medchal post# 203340
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Keep talking, it is all just opinion on all our parts right now an the investigation will reveal most. You can go on with your blinders all you want it may not effect you but I am sure it does me. I am just wondering just how much. Spirit
Rocket Man
Monday, July 16, 2012 8:24:23 PM
Re: maddog gene post# 1547
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I see that.. A little interest to day, 50% up.. I wonder if vacations staved off the interest in the PR.. Some good stuff on the Web site, filings and news.
http://www.gncc-capital.com/
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GNCC Capital, Inc. Third Quarter Update to Stockholders
Print
Alert
Gncc Capital (PC) (USOTC:GNCP)
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1 Month : From Jun 2012 to Jul 2012
GNCC Capital, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: GNCP) ("the Company") updates its stockholders as to certain transactions that will be included in the Company's results for the Third Quarter ended June 30, 2012, to be published and filed in July 2012. The Third Quarter Report with the Attorney's Letter must be filed with the OTC Markets Group by August 15, 2012 at the latest, to maintain the Company's "Current Information" status.
The Company's Directors together with their Advisors and key stockholders have been carefully examining a number of options for the Company to explore synergies and to work together alongside North American Gold & Minerals Fund (PINKSHEETS: NMGL) and with another publicly quoted Gold Exploration Company (referred to as "Subco") that is controlled by North American Gold & Minerals Fund ("the Fund"). Stockholders are advised that the Company's Chairman also serves as Chairman of the Fund and of the Subco.
The Company has in its Third Quarter taken some steps in this direction, namely:
Acquisition of some the short term debt owed by the Fund; and
Acquisition of some of the debt owed by Subco.
In addition to these steps taken in the Third Quarter, the Company is providing the required funding, expertise and advisors to both the Fund and to Subco, in order for both of these Companies to file their required financial and other information as is required to establish both of these Companies as "Current Information" with the OTC Markets Group. Both the Fund and Subco recently filed a Form 15-12G with the Commission and currently have "STOP" annotations with the OTC Markets Group. Certain State filings are required to be made by both the Fund and Subco and the cost of the same will be advanced by this Company. This is expected to be completed in August 2012. These funds being advanced by this Company to the Fund and to Subco, will in the immediate term, be accounted for as short term loans.
In addition of the above-mentioned, the Company has in its Third Quarter:
Obtained a long term, low interest and unsecured Loan which has settled all of the immediate short term liabilities, including stockholder loans, of the Company and provided some additional funding; and
Renewed the Chairman's Service Agreement for another 2 (two) year period, he is taking $1 annually in salary and has accepted long term Stock Options, this due to his already considerable equity holding in the company and his perceived potential upside of the stock price; and
Revised the terms of the Company's Advisors' Agreements to reflect additional services being provided to the Company; and
Entered into certain long term Stock Option Agreements.
No shares of the Company's Common Stock were issued in the Third Quarter nor has the Company's "free float" been increased whatsoever. The Company stands by its commitment not to increase the number of outstanding shares of Common Stock.
In the last Quarter of this Financial Year ending September 30, 2012, the Company's Management is working on previously unreported activities, namely:
Establishing an income stream to fund exploration expenditure through the use of fairly complex leveraged and hedged financial instruments under a proposed arrangement with a third party, this is a financial engineering model designed to raise capital without the issuance of shares of this Company's Common Stock and to avoid the addition of long term liabilities to the Company's Balance Sheet; and
Establishing a Gold derivative trading operation to create an additional income stream and to enhance its capital; and
The possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time; and
The possibility of sharing expenses with the Fund in both exploration and administration, including Geologists and other professional advisors, designed to grow both the Company and the Fund fairly rapidly without the burden of carrying the costs alone, this really being an exercise of cost savings; and
The injection of working capital into the Fund by the Company and to the Company taking an equity interest in shares of the Common Stock of the Fund.
The Company will not be considering the acquisition of any additional Exploration Properties until the next Financial Year commencing October 1, 2012. This excludes the aforementioned possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time.
The Company stresses that neither swaps nor acquisition of any interests in any of the Mining Interests residing in the Company or in the Fund will be taking place. All and any transactions being contemplated with the Fund will only be executed if considered to be in the best interests of the stockholders of the Company.
At this time, it is considered highly unlikely that the Company will be extending its relationship with Subco as this Company's Management foresees significant reorganization at Subco.
The delayed Chairman's Statement setting out of the Company's position, planning, etc. will now be published alongside the Company's Third Quarter results in July 2012, the synergies and arrangements outlined in this Press Release will be covered in depth in this Statement.
The Company recorded a loss of $0.0015 per share in the second quarter ended March 31, 2012 compared to a loss of $0.0013 per share in the first quarter ended December 31, 2011.
The Company's Management had expected to record losses in the third quarter ending June 30, 2012 that were substantially higher due to accelerated exploration expenses, which are expensed, not capitalized, the retaining of at least one full time Geologist and fairly substantial costs associated with the raising of the Company's profile in the investment community. The Company's Management is now expecting to record these additional expenses in the fourth quarter ended September 30, 2012. The company's contractual commitments totaling $180,000 in exploration charges on its properties will now be expensed in the Fourth Quarter ending September 30, 2012. These losses are normal, expected and are within our stated business model for this fiscal year while we remain an Exploration Stage Company.
The Company's website is currently being completely redesigned and its content materially updated in order to better reflect our portfolio of properties, our corporate plans, and developments. Once it is completed, stockholders will be advised through a press release. This process was deliberately delayed whilst the Company's Management was examining a number of options for the Company to explore synergies and to work together alongside the Fund.
The Company's Management recognizes the importance of Investor Relations and the creation of awareness for the Company and stresses that it remains committed to this policy, this is expected to commence in this, the Fourth Quarter, now that the Company's Management has resolved certain key issues and has decided upon its relationship with the Fund as outlined in this Press Release. The Company has not yet appointed a firm. Once appointed, stockholders will be advised through a press release.
About GNCC Capital, Inc.:
GNCC Capital, Inc. is primarily a Gold Exploration Company, with a secondary focus on Silver Exploration. The initial exploration properties are located in Arizona consist of "Esther Basin, Burnt Well, Clara, Kit Carson, Silverfields and Potts Mountain." The Company intends to create significant value for its initial portfolio of properties through continued exploration, joint ventures, and through the acquisition of additional Gold and Silver Exploration assets. GNCC Capital, Inc. is a current information filer on the OTC Markets under the symbol "GNCP."
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Chas56789
Monday, July 16, 2012 8:24:08 PM
Re: jb1967lbk post# 152360
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jb1967lbk , but you are stuck with a "sell" trail that you will be held accountable for !
you best believe it
None of us are stuck with revoked, worthless stock.
Vulcan
Monday, July 16, 2012 1:42:05 PM
Re: jb1967lbk post# 152354
Post # of 152355
Exactly. There are plenty of buyer protection laws already in place to solve this. All we've ever wanted was for the law to be upheld. We will get there. Alot sooner then you folks realise.
Vulcan
Monday, July 16, 2012 7:03:37 AM
Re: kruy post# 152349
Post # of 152354
Not based on what I have been reading from a certain circuit judge. But nice try. Be afraid if you are on the wrong side of the trade. lol. This is going to be awesome to watch your "NSS's it's not illegal" blah blah blah....sit back folks it's coming. And most of you who hold shares are going to have your lives changed for the positive on the backs of the NSS's. Justice will prevail.
5T WD haha
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SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:39:36 AM
Re: varmit post# 203325
Post # of 203386
FFGO - Principles going to file financials for Subco and for The Fund soon?
Wonder what the electronic equity counterfeiters will be positioned to do once that happens?
$0.0075 per share? $1 for each NSS? PLUS 3% interest on $0.003449 per share, for 2 years?
Love the sound of it!
3...2...1...
SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:26:21 AM
Re: paunch13 post# 203347
Post # of 203386
John, the company does not "refuse" to talk. They have made it very clear that they wouldn't talk until they filed with the SEC.
Pretty straight forward in my opinion.
Good Luck!
Tic Toc
AKFish
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:53:56 AM
Re: alien42 post# 203351
Post # of 203386
That being said, those that know/believe this to be a scam will spend the next few years trying to convince shareholders/stuckholders of this?? Explain the gain, logic, in that. FFGO is done, shut down, non-trading. The only real justification for those advisers that are parked here 24x7 is the fear that perhaps the book has not closed completely and they just might be a tad bit short.
AKFish
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:58:56 AM
Re: alien42 post# 203353
Post # of 203386
No argument to your comment. But the battle to penny scams is not on the boards. It's in the laws.
AKFish
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:06:08 AM
Re: alien42 post# 203357
Post # of 203386
I have reviewed some of the details of the other one over the years.
My comment on the laws change the requirements related to trading penny's to protect the casual investor.
SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:09:46 AM
Re: AKFish post# 203358
Post # of 203386
FFGO - Private settlement coming?
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I have reviewed some of the details of the other one over the years.
My comment on the laws change the requirements related to trading penny's to protect the casual investor.
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Claims that naked short selling and never borrowing or intending on covering are legal are starting to surface. Will those claims surface for FFGO? LOL!
Tic Toc
Vianna
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:27:15 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203359
Post # of 203386
FFGO - Private settlement coming?
Huhmmm....that sounds like an interesting idea, SevenTenEleven.
One thing is certain...something GREAT could still happen with FFGO and SHORTY continues to give me that comfort!
SHORTY...THANK YOU for making me feel all "warm and fuzzy" inside. I don't know what I (or many of us) would do without you.
TIC TOC
V
Hi CDT&S
Vianna
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:30:29 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203310
Post # of 203386
FFGO...Interesting indeed, Rocket Man and Varmit!
Thank you for the reminder that Bouse and S. Copperstone are VERY REAL and VERY VALUABLE! Great for us!
V
Even more interesting is this about FFGO:
Quote:Varmit~ This is very interesting data. Imo, the Bouse & S Copperstone appear to fit the bill to be the significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property. The two are not owned by NMGL or GNCP as of this PR that I know of.. NMGL is the Broker for FFGOs assets only. Read between the lines in my view. RENS has tailings with gold and silver, significant too.. I feel Subco is ASPA Gold. NMGL owns 75% of ASPA if I recall.. GNCP and NMGL appear to be working to get an income stream.. ASPA has the tailings setting the stage for NMGL and ASPA to get current and go after the GOLD and broker a deal for FFGOs interest in the Class As & Bs..
www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=7899208
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GNCP/news
Quote:-- Establishing an income stream to fund exploration expenditure through
the use of fairly complex leveraged and hedged financial instruments
under a proposed arrangement with a third party, this is a financial
engineering model designed to raise capital without the issuance of
shares of this Company's Common Stock and to avoid the addition of
long term liabilities to the Company's Balance Sheet; and
-- Establishing a Gold derivative trading operation to create an
additional income stream and to enhance its capital; and
The possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a
significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at
this time; and
-- The possibility of sharing expenses with the Fund in both exploration
and administration, including Geologists and other professional
advisors, designed to grow both the Company and the Fund fairly
rapidly without the burden of carrying the costs alone, this really
being an exercise of cost savings; and
-- The injection of working capital into the Fund by the Company and to
the Company taking an equity interest in shares of the Common Stock of
the Fund.
The Company will not be considering the acquisition of any additional Exploration Properties until the next Financial Year commencing October 1, 2012. This excludes the aforementioned possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time.
The Company stresses that neither swaps nor acquisition of any interests in any of the Mining Interests residing in the Company or in the Fund will be taking place. All and any transactions being contemplated with the Fund will only be executed if considered to be in the best interests of the stockholders of the Company.
Rocket Man
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:51:57 AM
Re: Vianna post# 203366
Post # of 203386
Morning V, time will tell as things unfold.. I see GNCP has moved up on the PR, no change in NMGL.. In due time, imo it will move.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Vianna
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:42:22 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203369
Post # of 203386
John, Exactly... it's common sense.
FFGO is NOT DEAD and so many reassure us of that daily.
Best,
V
AlanC
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:23:54 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203369
Post # of 203386
Spot on John! This board would not have this kind of activity unless..............................! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
AlanC
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:25:14 PM
Re: ctrumabll post# 203371
Post # of 203386
They should but they don't hence our comfort level waiting!
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
diamondguru-one
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:38:12 PM
Re: alien42 post# 203361
Post # of 203386
LOL.....right... Does "5 TRILLION SHARES" ring a bell ????
that is as bogus as the fantasy that FFGO was anything but just another scam. it was made up in an attempt to distract from the truth.
stoprun
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:07:47 PM
Re: alien42 post# 203385
Post # of 203386
In this current situation, where is the truth, have'nt seen it from some of the posts for a long time and do not expect to, with the emphasis on "some" not all. Good Luck!
SevenTenEleven
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Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:26:30 PM
Re: BigBake1 post# 10516
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Good Luck with that "source" out of the Miami SEC Office. Wondering if that is the same type of "source" as the one allowing folks to 'ghost write" complaints that he is then signing off on and filing.
Tic Toc
BigBake1
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Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:37:02 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 10519
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You do understand that it wasn't the SEC enforcement that caught them issuing illegal shares, but in fact an FBI sting operation that caught CCTC and it's director in a money laundering scheme.
That is straight from the filed charges and maybe do a little further DD as there is also a criminal case filed.
Shooting from the hip just results in poor performance.
fourkids_9pets
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Wednesday, July 04, 2012 9:08:26 AM
Re: BigBake1 post# 10520
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Shooting from the hip just results in poor performance.
isn't that the truth >> it's why i have the sec and the dtc/c in the crooks' column
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SevenTenEleven
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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:35:10 PM
Re: fourkids_9pets post# 10524
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RXPC - Sure pays to do proper DD!
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Shooting from the hip just results in poor performance. - BigBake1
What will that Form 10-Q reveal?
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I suspect they are about to be awarded an "E" and that is not for effort.... - BigBake1
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I don't think that'll happen. They're already on the Pinks, presumably because they got whacked by the "three strikes" rule. - janice shell
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Oh..... I just saw that, "Limited Information" tier..lol.. Ouch! - BigBake1
Wouldn't want to be short billions of shares!
Good Luck!
BigBake1
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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:05:34 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 10846
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I really I am not worried about the OTC tier, but I at least admit my mistakes publilcy unlike others who cannot. I monitor a lot of different securities each day and do not memorize every detail of them. When discussing lack of SEC reports it was quite easily to slip and forget that it was dumped to "limited information" tier.
But here we are, another personal attack post.....
RichieBoy
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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:19:48 PM
Re: bloodhound99 post# 9800
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Is that so? Huh! who'd a thunk it.
You would expect bankrupt companies would file right on the very second being middle of the summer doldrums and all?
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There is a REASON this is $ .0001 and flatlining.
Indeed and if I didn't know any better: probably some tag team of bashers hammering the living daylights out of it like there life depended on it. As if
Cheer up blood, Prozac is a wonderful thing, what else is new?
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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varmit
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:47:50 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203445
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300 SHAREHOLDERS ????? fyi ffgo guys and gals !!!!!! i have over 2200 shareholders of record and at a buck a share sales of over 787,billion shares to date on record and hate mails fromnss nss nss nss guys all day long ..
they are so scaredd and going 2 go visit bernie and robert soon next weeks matter a faq !!!!!!
10 million ounces of gold minimum in bouse and s.c has more just ask american bonanza ??????
subco /jv mining inc to break ground soon at bouse . 10 million ounces just in the surface ore !!!!!!!
this is big !!!!!!! big gold !!!!!
did i mention the outstanding shares at ffgo was 85 billion ???? and 787 billion shares are being claimed for divvies ???" someone is in deep deep deep deeep water here !!!!
and the shares keep on going and going and going and going !!!!!!!
all at .0075 the latest mine sale updatye plus a buck a share compensation from the mms nss nss nss nss nss ns snsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnn
varmit
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:37:49 AM
Re: A deleted message
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I LIKE YOUR INPUT !!!!!!
you tell em !!! why would any stock gey so much attention if it was worthless .
with 5 trillion shar5es short at .003449 these guys nss nss nss nss nss nss nss nss are in deep trouble . divvy next weeks and mining begins !!!!
ever heard of SUBCO M????????????????????????/
SevenTenEleven
Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:20:14 AM
Re: varmit post# 203448
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The auditors would know how many shareholders of record there are and how many air shares they are holding. It is very possible that 200B illegal counterfeit electronic markers are sitting in retail accounts.
It is also possible that 700B markers are. The truth lies somewhere in between the lies.
It is becoming "the claim" that naked short selling is legal for no bid stocks. That when a stock is deemed "worthless" naked short selling is an acceptable tactic, and there is no reason, and no mandate, that should/would force those naked short selling to cover, or close out their positions.
What those making such claims are claiming is incorrect. Naked short selling is legal if you are a bona fide market makers who is temporarily creating an orderly market. Those naked short sales are required to be covered in 3 days. There is no if's, and's, or but's about it.
Claims of "the need for liquidity" are so called "justifiers" for this short selling tactic. The problem with these claims of "need for liquidity" fail to justify when there are also claims of retail offering billions of shares for sale @ $0.0001, and not a single one of them being filled ahead of naked short selling maker makers.
We are learning though, that those who naked short successfully work with the likes of NITE, AUTO, and ETMM, to hide their counterfeit inventory.
Where do they hide it? In the retail accounts of the ETrade's, Scottrade's, and TDAmeritrade's.
How do they hide it? through self-clearing/ex-clearing and non-tape transactions.
If you think they are only doing this for OTC stocks such as FFGO, you are likely wrong! They are counterfeiting inventory for just about anything and everything they could get away with.
It is just a matter of time. The regulators are on the hot seat. Some may even be headed to prison alongside the brokers, bankers, and market makers they are aiding and abetting. Problems at the Boston SEC Office are just a scratch on the surface. Which SEC Office is being tasked to monitor FFGO?
The IRS is realizing that they are being cheated out of billions of tax dollars as a result of off-shore LLC's moving counterfeit electronic equity to tax free off-shore accounts. With FFGO, alone, $20MM to $70MM worth of counterfeit electronic equity has been generated and likely sent off-shore to the Caymans, Canary Islands, etc.
But it does't matter! The IRS will be collecting taxes on $690MM to $2.41B in liquidating dividends, assuming the counterfeit electronic equity, in retail traders' accounts, are 200B to 700B NSS.
Imagine if the liquidating dividend is now set at $0.0075? That would mean tax revenues on $1.5B to $5.25B in liquidating dividends! Well worth the wait, and effort, for the IRS!
The IRS knows they have a problem at the US Treasury. The US Treasury is suppose to be regulating the banks, but it is being uncovered that there are Officers of the US Treasury on "the take" from the bankers that they should be busting. Add to that the fact that those running the Federal Reserve and other Central Banks are also colluding with the bankers to "fix" the system.
If the $1 per share is a reality, the penalty for illegally counterfeiting equity for years will cost the naked short sellers trillions of dollars for stocks such as FFGO!
Where will that money come from? Looks like the DTCC is on the hook for the entire backing! The Federal Reserve's private stash of $15T in cash, at the DTCC, will be returned to the people who have been TAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, by the FEDERAL RESERVE, for 99 years.
Looking forward to NMGL triggering the liquidating dividend and the inventory crisis the will soon surface.
Tic Toc
5T WD haha
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paunch13
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:11:05 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203391
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Rocket Man
One of these days FFGO will take off and then just maybe they will all get caught
John
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:34:03 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203392
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WD has Bouse & S. Copperstone which are very valuable.. NMGL is becoming current per PR. NMGL will broker a deal for the assets.. It is the right thing to do. imo
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:45:48 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203396
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FFGO - CASH liquidation will happen as planned. Still waiting on proof to support claims that none of the Form 8-K's filed by FFGO and NMGL are "real" or "truthful". Also, still waiting on documentation to support claims that the company's FAQ's are false and misleading.
Shareholders know that no such documents or proof exists. Yet claims to the contrary of what the company(s) have reported and provided are being made.
Have to love "free (and misleading) speech"! LOL!
Tic Toc
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:19:07 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203397
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So true Seven.. Things are all good imo.. FFGO held in WD is key.. Winning tickets are class A & B.
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:17:12 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203403
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Really? I beg to disagree. Let's use the following company provided answers as facts, as advised by the SEC, instead of opinions that are based upon yet to be provided documentation.
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the SEC advises shareholders of unknown parties posting emails and
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What about historic dividends versus the FFGO common stock dividends?
Some shareholders have received dividends from their stock holdings in 2005. Those shareholder accounts are kept in the company records and the DTC lists of the stock registers for the historic shareholders. Fortress filed a Form 8-K detailing the apportionment of shareholdings pertaining to historic shareholders versus current shareholder of Fortress shares of common stock. The details of that apportionment can be viewed on the company web site www.fortfinancegroup.com under ‘investors’ -> ‘dividends’ -> historic dividends.
All shareholders will become shareholders of NMGL Series “A” Preferred and NMGL Series “B” preferred shares if they are stockholders of Record when Fortress announces this Dividend. This is a necessary step in the process of cleanly apportioning a cash distribution should NMGL be successful in obtaining a cash buyer for these assets.
NMGL intends to purchase 100% ownership of Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. This is imperative if they are to sell these Gold assets for cash going forward. NMGL has not however provided us with any timeframe as to when they intend to acquire the additional shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. and NMGL will clearly continue to follow their own business plan and will only complete all of these transactions as and when it fits into their own business plan. This NMGL policy very clearly extends as well to their purchasing shares from historic stockholders from 2005 who received shares of Bouse Gold, Inc. and of South Copperstone, Inc.
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No NMGL Preferred Series “A” and Series “B” shares may be redeemed prior to January 1st, 2011. What is the process by which shares may be redeemed after that date and can shareholders elect to redeem a percentage of shares?
On or after January 1, 2011, NMGL may at its sole and absolute discretion redeem all or part of either of the Preferred Series “A” shares or the Preferred Series “B” shares for cash. This is at the discretion of the NMGL Board of Directors and there is absolutely no possibility that NMGL has any intention whatsoever of considering any such actions at that time. NMGL, at this time, considers these transactions as a mere “warehousing” exercise, their intention is to obtain 100% ownership of both Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. over a period of time, to then use their best efforts to dispose of both Bouse Gold, Inc. and South Copperstone, Inc. and if successful, NMGL would then redeem the Preferred Series “A” and the Preferred Series “B” shares for cash and at their face value.
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What about the share price guidance given by Fortress to Shareholders?
The share price guidance given by Fortress to shareholders is quite simply the most basic and rudimentary means to convey what the company believes is the value of the assets in terms of the value of the shares that each shareholder owns. This guidance is useful in that it guides not only what the shareholders might reasonably expect to receive in compensation for their patient investment, but also guides the company and the purchaser as to what value they should expect to receive for disposal of the assets.
Some shareholders have expressed disappointment that the extraordinary dividend was not at least a partial cash dividend. Hopefully from the foregoing commentary one can glean the enormous challenges in arriving at a final cash distribution for sale of the gold interests. Fortress has made enormous progress to bringing that reality about by all of the preparations for this forthcoming dividend.
Hopefully even those who see themselves as an “unsophisticated investor” who do not fully understand this transaction can now see that the way has been prepared to achieve the fruition of their investment. How could Fortress issue a cash dividend for an asset that it has not yet been disposed of? How could it dispose of an asset that it only partially owns? If even a partial cash dividend had been made that would have multiplied the complexity of making a final cash disbursement to shareholders and put the entire sale process at risk. NMGL effectively came in as a “White Knight” to rescue this deal. NMGL receives a mere 5% fee upon their concluding a cash sale of the assets coupled with any excess in the event of the assets being sold at an amount exceeding the face value of the NMGL Preferred Series “A” and Series “B” shares. Had NMGL not rescued Fortress, the Loan Note Holders would have bankrupted Fortress and Searchlight Exploration, LLC would have exercised its legal rights and seized the Company’s Gold interests without delay.
There have been several questions directed at nuances of the valuations for the preferred shares such as the 3% dividend, the possibility of more value than the estimated valuation given based on Gold prices, etc. and the payment of fees to North American Gold & Minerals Fund. Our response to all of these questions is basically the same one, there will be no further guidance given other than that which has already been specified by the regulatory filings and shareholder updates issued to date. These questions are nuanced details that are far and away overshadowed by the eventuality of the actual completion of the asset disposal and subsequent cash payments. We do not wish to trivialize these matters, but our company will not debate detailed logistical points about minor expenses in the costing of effecting this outcome and we certainly will not offer undue instruction as to the form and format of the entire process which has yet to be determined other than what has already been outlined and which will conclude through an agency outside of our direct control.
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and the scam known as FFGO NEVER once said anything about a "cash" divi or any thing else about cash...... - Hunter6110
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As one could see, CASH is listed and mentioned a NUMBER of times!
Good Luck!
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:31:29 PM
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The company also made it clear that it would be illegal to communicate with investors regarding anything that has not been filed in the Form 8-K's, or that which has not been made public already.
Company made it very clear in their FAQ's that they would communicate with ALL investors and ALL shareholders when they have agreed upon a record and payment date.
Requests to shareholders to contact the company and ask them to break securities laws are interesting requests indeed.
The FAQ's are very clear, company WILL NOT share anything with investors and shareholders until they are ready to set the agreed upon record and payment dates.
Those communications will be in the form of email correspondence and Form 8-K's with the SEC.
Again, requests to communicate with a company that has made it clear that they legally could not, and would not, communicate, and possibly jeopardize the dividend process, should be suspect to caution.
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What assurance is there that in the event of the mines being sold, shareholders will not simply be given more shares?
Fortress has no ability to make any guarantees, because the purchaser (NMGL) of the gold interests takes the control of this issue out of the hands of Fortress. However, it must be said that the interests of all of the majority shareholders of FFGO and the interests of minority shareholder are perfectly and equally aligned. Why would the majority shareholders want to indefinitely receive distributions of illiquid shares that do not result in a positive return for our investments? All of the shareholders want to realize a significant return on their investment. That is why this transaction has taken place in the manner that it has and why we are now saying that the stage is set for the ultimate return to be realized in due course.
We believe that this transaction is the final step to the ultimate realization of a monetary return for your investment. It may take several months and even more than a year to realize that return in full. Whatever the case, the return will be well worth the wait if you are a believer in the price of Gold maintaining its price in excess of US$900/oz over that time period. The majority shareholders of Fortress are long term investors that have invested their money in the Company for the ultimate return to be realized from the eventual disposal of the gold interests. The idea that somehow the majority investors have benefited from the sales of Fortress shares of common stock at a huge discount to the anticipated value of this return is ludicrous and our shareholders should completely disregard any speculation that suggests otherwise.
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the SEC advises shareholders of unknown parties posting emails and
unverifiable opinions - puppydotcom
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Tic Toc
Vianna
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:04:51 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203397
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Well said, SevenTenEleven! It IS confusing that some are still unclear that FFGO has been revoked for awhile now disallowing anyone to purchase the stock. There is NO NEED for any warnings here!
SHORTY is more of a DREAMER than he believes LONGS to be as it is OBVIOUS FFGO is NOT DEAD!
I JUST LOVE SHORTY SOOO MUCH for making me feel so confident!
TIC TOC
AlanC
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:05:27 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203406
Post # of 203475
Indeed 7/10/11 Cash is king! Hope those that sold billions of non existant shares are prepared to pony up! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
AlanC
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:38:31 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203402
Post # of 203475
FFGO is going to pull a Lazrus on the shortman and it is going to hurt badly. Billions of divies paid by the shortman. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
stoprun
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:08:25 PM
Re: A deleted message
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And what would your guarantee be backed up with, or should I venture a guess??? Go----"FFGO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:31:10 PM
Re: underdog150 post# 203434
Post # of 203475
Divs don't need FFGO anymore.. We get it.. WD/NMGL = $.003449. Simple!
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:33:47 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203401
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WD/NMGL = $.003449.. It sucks for sure, just not for longs.. Class As & Bs are the key.. Watch for more filings per the PRs.. Nice! Hot summer days beat the cold winter ones.. Go FFGO..
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:33:47 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203401
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Only those that hold FFGO shares are safe imo.. Bouse & S. Copperstone are very valuable..
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:37:13 PM
Re: AlanC post# 203414
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FFGO~ Going to a Rodeo? The way I see it with the Class As & Bs why not.. Lets start the $Buck-in$..
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:37:14 PM
Re: AlanC post# 203414
Post # of 203475
Looks like the cat is out of the bag.. Hopefully it won't cause a stampede when B & SC get brokered by NMGL.. Come on filings..
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:09:01 PM
Re: underdog150 post# 203443
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Since FFGO's shareholder base if >300 shareholders, the SEC would still be involved in the record date and payment date process. All one has to do is check with the SEC, and/or an expert, or purported expert, regarding filing.
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Some here claim they are waiting on an SEC filing from FFGO, and I say it can't happen because the stock is revoked - underdog150
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Looking forward to what the SEC communicates!
My broker's compliance department clearly stated that a revoked company CAN distribute dividends, and/or liquidate and distribute assets to shareholders of record.
Notification from the DTCC would trigger the process on their end.
I hope that helps!
Good Luck!
5T WD haha
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varmit
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:37:49 AM
Re: A deleted message
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I LIKE YOUR INPUT !!!!!!
you tell em !!! why would any stock gey so much attention if it was worthless .
with 5 trillion shar5es short at .003449 these guys nss nss nss nss nss nss nss nss are in deep trouble . divvy next weeks and mining begins !!!!
ever heard of SUBCO M????????????????????????/
varmit
Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:47:50 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203445
Post # of 203475
300 SHAREHOLDERS ????? fyi ffgo guys and gals !!!!!! i have over 2200 shareholders of record and at a buck a share sales of over 787,billion shares to date on record and hate mails fromnss nss nss nss guys all day long ..
they are so scaredd and going 2 go visit bernie and robert soon next weeks matter a faq !!!!!!
10 million ounces of gold minimum in bouse and s.c has more just ask american bonanza ??????
subco /jv mining inc to break ground soon at bouse . 10 million ounces just in the surface ore !!!!!!!
this is big !!!!!!! big gold !!!!!
did i mention the outstanding shares at ffgo was 85 billion ???? and 787 billion shares are being claimed for divvies ???" someone is in deep deep deep deeep water here !!!!
and the shares keep on going and going and going and going !!!!!!!
all at .0075 the latest mine sale updatye plus a buck a share compensation from the mms nss nss nss nss nss ns snsnsnsnsnsnsnsnsnn
AlanC
Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:54:42 AM
Re: varmit post# 203448
Post # of 203475
I agree that a few folks will be in huge trouble when the dividend is paid. They made their bed selling non existant shares based on what they thought was going to be 5 trillion outstanding. FINRA's records document short sales of well over 2 billion short since they started posting the short sales. That money sitting offshore untaxed coming back into taxpayers hands will be good for the economy that is for sure. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
spiritthing
Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:42:30 AM
Re: underdog150 post# 203427
Post # of 203475
I believe the question and answer section has been posted and it says that NMGL will file. Just saying what I read. Spirit
SevenTenEleven
Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:20:14 AM
Re: varmit post# 203448
Post # of 203475
The auditors would know how many shareholders of record there are and how many air shares they are holding. It is very possible that 200B illegal counterfeit electronic markers are sitting in retail accounts.
It is also possible that 700B markers are. The truth lies somewhere in between the lies.
It is becoming "the claim" that naked short selling is legal for no bid stocks. That when a stock is deemed "worthless" naked short selling is an acceptable tactic, and there is no reason, and no mandate, that should/would force those naked short selling to cover, or close out their positions.
What those making such claims are claiming is incorrect. Naked short selling is legal if you are a bona fide market makers who is temporarily creating an orderly market. Those naked short sales are required to be covered in 3 days. There is no if's, and's, or but's about it.
Claims of "the need for liquidity" are so called "justifiers" for this short selling tactic. The problem with these claims of "need for liquidity" fail to justify when there are also claims of retail offering billions of shares for sale @ $0.0001, and not a single one of them being filled ahead of naked short selling maker makers.
We are learning though, that those who naked short successfully work with the likes of NITE, AUTO, and ETMM, to hide their counterfeit inventory.
Where do they hide it? In the retail accounts of the ETrade's, Scottrade's, and TDAmeritrade's.
How do they hide it? through self-clearing/ex-clearing and non-tape transactions.
If you think they are only doing this for OTC stocks such as FFGO, you are likely wrong! They are counterfeiting inventory for just about anything and everything they could get away with.
It is just a matter of time. The regulators are on the hot seat. Some may even be headed to prison alongside the brokers, bankers, and market makers they are aiding and abetting. Problems at the Boston SEC Office are just a scratch on the surface. Which SEC Office is being tasked to monitor FFGO?
The IRS is realizing that they are being cheated out of billions of tax dollars as a result of off-shore LLC's moving counterfeit electronic equity to tax free off-shore accounts. With FFGO, alone, $20MM to $70MM worth of counterfeit electronic equity has been generated and likely sent off-shore to the Caymans, Canary Islands, etc.
But it does't matter! The IRS will be collecting taxes on $690MM to $2.41B in liquidating dividends, assuming the counterfeit electronic equity, in retail traders' accounts, are 200B to 700B NSS.
Imagine if the liquidating dividend is now set at $0.0075? That would mean tax revenues on $1.5B to $5.25B in liquidating dividends! Well worth the wait, and effort, for the IRS!
The IRS knows they have a problem at the US Treasury. The US Treasury is suppose to be regulating the banks, but it is being uncovered that there are Officers of the US Treasury on "the take" from the bankers that they should be busting. Add to that the fact that those running the Federal Reserve and other Central Banks are also colluding with the bankers to "fix" the system.
If the $1 per share is a reality, the penalty for illegally counterfeiting equity for years will cost the naked short sellers trillions of dollars for stocks such as FFGO!
Where will that money come from? Looks like the DTCC is on the hook for the entire backing! The Federal Reserve's private stash of $15T in cash, at the DTCC, will be returned to the people who have been TAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, by the FEDERAL RESERVE, for 99 years.
Looking forward to NMGL triggering the liquidating dividend and the inventory crisis the will soon surface.
Tic Toc
SevenTenEleven
Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:25:28 AM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203449
Post # of 203475
LOL! NMGL does not need to buy back the Preferred A's & B's (Dividends) held by WD as part of the agreement. They are required to buy the remaining equity in Bouse and South Copperstone. Once they complete that task, they will hopefully sell the mining claims to a 3rd party for CASH, and the cash will be distributed to shareholders of record, as stated by the company.
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Varmit do you know why Ronnie Lowenthal doesnt want to buy my Bouse..Copperstone Div shares to attain 100% ownership?? As needed?
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Good Luck!
SevenTenEleven
Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:52:25 AM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203455
Post # of 203475
One has to ask themselves, "have the Bouse and South Copperstone divvies from yesteryear been counterfeited also?" Does NMGL own, or is about to own 100% of the claims, leaving those with counterfeited distributed dividends holding "the excess"?
paunch13
Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:53:42 PM
Re: None
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Very quiet today, must be something about to happen for the good of the shareholders
John
paunch13
Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:18:58 PM
Re: None
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Very soon now the mines will be sold for cash and all the shareholders will receive the money they have been waiting for , for such a long long time
John
SevenTenEleven
Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:49:26 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203470
Post # of 203475
John, All will be revealed soon enough!
Great to be a stockholder!
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Dear Stockholder,
FORTRESS FINANCIAL GROUP, INC. (FFGO.PK) (“Fortress”)
We have your details on our database as a stockholder of Fortress Financial Group, Inc.; a Company quoted on the OTC Pink Sheets Market under the Trading Symbol : FFGO.PK.
This Final and very Exciting Communication to you serves to advise you, as follows:
· Fortress is filing a Form 8-K within days; with the SEC. The purpose of the Filing is to update our stockholders as to the status of this Company at this time and to address each and every issue which Fortress believes is of relevance to our stockholders.
· Fortress has appointed a new Transfer Agent as of November 13, 2009.
· The principal Assets in Fortress remain our significant interests in both the “Bouse” and the “South Copperstone” Gold Properties.
· DO the last remaining Stock Dividends owed to or Stockholders (on record in 2005) need to be resolved, YOU BET THEY DO, the sale of the Company’s interests in the “Bouse” and the “South Copperstone” Gold Mining Interests; will make that happen. The Company declared FIVE Stock Dividends, THREE Stock Dividends were settled to our Stockholder already, this company WILL DELIVER UPON ITS UNDERTAKINGS. The remaining stock Dividends are going to be settled.
· Your Company’s Management is acutely aware that the price of Gold continues to reach new highs, currently at US$1,143/oz, its high yesterday at US$1,152.43 /oz.
· Did we appoint an Investor Relations Firm to assist you? YES, we did! Full details will be provided to you next week. Any comments, questions or suggestions that you send to us will be answered next week by our dedicated Team, appointed to assist you in your maximizing your investment in FORTRESS FINANCIAL GROUP, INC. AND THE CURRENT GOLD RUSH!
· WE HAVE A LESS THAN DESIRABLE TRACK RECORD IN OUR STOCKHOLDER COMMUNICATIONS………………FORGET ALL OF THAT NOW, we are now realizing our substantial Assets for our stockholders.
FACT : Fortress remains HUGELY undervalued at a price of US$0.0001 per share! No bid on this Stock for Months. This is about to change; and now.
Management Comments:
THIS COMPANY AND ITS STOCKHOLDERS GOT HANDED A WINDFALL (THANKS TO THE “FRENZIED” SCRAMBLE FOR QUALITY GOLD ASSETS), DESPITE THE HUGE NEGATIVITY TOWARDS YOUR COMPANY, ITS RIDICULOUS LOW STOCK PRICE IS NO LONGER APPLICABLE AS THE TIME TO CASH IN ON THIS BOOM IS NOW.
*WE HAVE HELD ONTO OUR GOLD ASSETS.
*WE ARE CAPITALIZING UPON OUR HUGE ASSET BASE IN GOLD INTERESTS, NO MORE PROMISES FROM YOUR COMPANY’S MANAGEMENT, JUST DECISIVE AND IMMEDIATE ACTION IMMEDIATELY.
*YOUR COMPANY’S MANAGEMENT IS “SEIZING THE MOMENT”, WE ARE PLEDGING TO SELL YOUR COMPANY’S GOLD ASSETS AND WILL REWARD OUR STOCKHOLDERS THROUGH THESE DISPOSALS; AND IN FULL.
This is our Pledge to you:
This Company’s Management's is now GOING TO DISPOSE of the Company’s interests in its Gold assets thereby realizing a very substantial “windfall” for our stockholders……………..”ANY DEAL CONCLUDED BY YOUR COMPANY”S MANAGEMENT WILL BE AT A PRICE PER SHARE THAT WILL BE VERY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN YOUR COMPANY’S STOCK HAS EVER TRADED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS :
OUR NEW CORPORATE SLOGAN SHALL BE KNOWN AS: “WHAT IS IN THE PAST, REMAINS IN THE PAST, OUR OBJECTIVE NOW IS TO EXTRACT IMMEDIATE VALUE FOR OUR STOCKHOLDERS AND TO CAPITALIZE ON YOUR COMPANY’S GOLD ASSETS, THE GOLD RUSH IN UPON US, WE SHALL NOT FAIL YOU.”
We have established a new Investor “Hotline”, that telephone number being : (954) 623-7409. As from next week, you will have immediate access to any answers or details that you may require!
Any enquiries : investor@fortfinancegroup.com
bobbybdb
Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:25:39 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203455
Post # of 203475
I have always thought that buying the remainder of CS/ Bouse shares was not ever to be achieved, it was a condition for maintaining full control of the dividend once it was paid in full to WD.
When they are ready, all that would be needed, is a waive of that requirement by the purchaser of FFGO shares.(rectifiable weasel clause) could happen any time, we are not waiting for any further purchase of Copperstone/Bouse shares.IMO
seventeneleven, I must say, your posting is right on, I have not really been reading these past months, but now reading your post's you have really got a handle on what is actually going on.imo good posting!
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:51:11 AM
Re: ib12u post# 31264
Post # of 31274
Pregnant from HGLC then, I take it?
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:52:38 AM
Re: None
Post # of 31274
I know getting porked by HGLC coming to life is a grey area an all..
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:52:39 AM
Re: None
Post # of 31274
HGLC coming to life?
AlanC
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:45:22 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 31267
Post # of 31274
That could be disastrous to some! Go HGLC!!!
Nice writeup on Ted btw!
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:51:32 AM
Re: AlanC post# 31268
Post # of 31274
It is a good one. Maybe this vehicle (HGLC) needs a mere tune up and it could be ready to be put back in the quiver?
BMFL<OD
next week(s) is here
Who's Next!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI
Shortmans Anthem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56
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varmit
Sunday, July 22, 2012 3:26:33 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203537
attention ffgo yes ffgo is dead, gone, dormant, revolked, done for, la dee da !!
but BEWARE of people that say never ,they do not know the future ,
ffgo can come back for a modest amount of fees and filings ,
subco can jv up and start mining bouse and s.c.
ffgo shareholders would probably get 10 fold on there divy amount around 3.5 cents per share ,
just think of a press release that announced that subco hit a vein on bouse with over 10 million ounces of gold @ 2000 an ounce .
that would put us right back in play
mutts and dogs !!!!! please understand this is not only possible but probably coming soon to reality !!!!!
thats the rumors going around southern arizona mining folks !!!!!
they all have heard about this .clocks tickin
varmit
Sunday, July 22, 2012 3:37:42 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203537
RED ALERT there are several gold mines located in southern arizona owned by 5 companies that have enough gold in them to stabalize gold markets .
these are owned by hglc ,ffgo,aspagold,gncc,and nmgl .
miles and miles of gold and claims .the most valuable asset to have ahold of in these economic stressed times .
just 2 name a few mines with STAGGERING amounts of gold
OATMAN
BOUSE
YABA GOLD AND SILVER
LOOKOUT GOLD AND SILVER
AMERICAN MOLYGOLD
STORMCLOUD
CHERRY
AMBASSADOR
LADY EAGLE
list goes on and on and on and on !!!!! thats alota gold what an excellent place to be in gold in this crazy economy ,,,,, how can we lose ?????
BMFL<OD
next week(s) is here
Who's Next!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukmI
Shortmans Anthem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56
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story starts >> with this post
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=77752207
specifically this article by peter kennedy most of the way down
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back story is this >> copy of 2 PMs' sent to 7.10
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btw .. check this out >> notice the time lapse and first post FMNL
2nd stock now after JBI where i can prove what daily reg sho >> shows >> shell has her uses
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#50 PPC ads running OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:57:32 AM #49 We are on high alert OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:46:38 AM #48 A cruise would be great too. or get Heisenberg 05/20/12 02:43:25 AM #47 I am ready to buy some toys this summer OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:37:37 AM #46 Very true my friend OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:36:55 AM #45 Dont matter to me as long as i Heisenberg 05/20/12 02:36:31 AM #44 Signs of a money making pick LARRYMONEY 05/20/12 02:35:46 AM #43 Who knows OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:35:09 AM #42 Is this the next LEXG? LARRYMONEY 05/20/12 02:34:15 AM #41 Breakout ready imo OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:33:12 AM #40 FMNL has been walked up from .10 ..... OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:32:44 AM #39 Wow that is great. now with volume this Heisenberg 05/20/12 02:32:11 AM #38 Waiting on Mine OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:31:03 AM #37 Hope they are the glossy kind of physical mailers. Heisenberg 05/20/12 02:30:40 AM #36 200k bids were being flashed on Friday OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:30:27 AM #35 Check out FMNL now OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:29:42 AM #34 That is what caught my attention. Pullbacks met Heisenberg 05/20/12 02:29:36 AM #33 FMNL Hard mailers hitting mailboxes reported OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:28:45 AM #32 This seems like it could have some upside Heisenberg 05/20/12 02:28:05 AM #31 Next week will be fun OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:27:58 AM #30 Great , i love the buzz picking up OxfordAlerts 05/20/12 02:27:30 AM #29 I like it. Guys could play this to LARRYMONEY 05/20/12 02:09:14 AM #28 Just sent in a request LARRYMONEY 05/20/12 02:07:34 AM #27 Only a matter of time before investors start Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:58:49 AM #26 The buzz on FMNL is starting to build Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:58:08 AM #25 Low floater here, could be a sweet runner! Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:54:24 AM #24 Stockcharts doesn't have the chart yet Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:51:20 AM #23 chart has been creeping Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:49:35 AM #22 Loading on any pull backs Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:49:15 AM #21 Could be the hottest play this summer Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:48:54 AM #20 I believe in this pick Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:48:24 AM #19 Are Life Settlements the $170 Billion Elephant in Bruce Romney 05/20/12 01:43:41 AM #18 It says strong buy on FMNL AWESOME Chaser 05/20/12 01:21:29 AM #17 It has a $2 price target AWESOME Chaser 05/20/12 01:20:54 AM #16 I received this pick as a high alert AWESOME Chaser 05/20/12 01:20:05 AM #15 Promo rumors could be true after todays activity LARRYMONEY 05/19/12 12:30:08 AM #14 Promo rumors could be true after todays activity LARRYMONEY 05/19/12 12:29:50 AM #13 Great close LARRYMONEY 05/19/12 12:27:22 AM #12 FMNL on watch LARRYMONEY 05/18/12 03:08:22 PM #11 Rumor on $750k plus promo starting next week OxfordAlerts 05/18/12 02:44:04 PM #10 looks like a pre promo play OxfordAlerts 05/16/12 01:44:18 PM #9 Has anyone seen a landing page on this pick? OxfordAlerts 05/16/12 01:43:53 PM #8 has anyone seen this great news? OxfordAlerts 05/16/12 01:43:23 PM #7 No eyes on this yet OxfordAlerts 05/16/12 01:43:05 PM #6 Forum National Investments Reports Record Revenues and Earnings di4 05/19/09 12:24:11 PM #5 www.smallcapvoice.com/fmnlf/fmnlf-8-24-07.php Notes from the interview: matthew288 08/28/07 11:07:36 AM
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kris
FMNL >>
first batch of posters >>
di4 >> pays sub
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=89305
oxford alerts >> booted
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=284589
larry money >> freebie
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=310763
awesome chaser >> booted
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=343511
bruce romney >> booted
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=333622
heisenberg >> booted
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=313536
hmmm
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kris
fourkids_9pets
Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:40:38 PM
Re: None
Post # of 10924
FMNL >>
basics ..
volume done in june 2012 (top 3 MMs' active)did 3.066.142
or 78.9 percent of the entire month's volume >> VERT did
47.5 percent all by their lonesome >> hmmmm
Total Share Volume 3,882,604 VERT The Vertical Trading Group 1,846,461 NITE Knight Execution & Clearing S 902,968 VFIN vFinance Investments, Inc. 316,713
use the link to check back and see what VERT did in MAY 2012
then check the total lack of volume done >> in prior months
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=FMNL&SortBy=volume&Month=6-1-2012&IMAGE1.x=10&IMAGE1.y=9
this is historical >> to show when stock is frontloaded for the *orchestrated* run .. notice when *interest* ramps up >> 1 month b4
Date Open High Low Close Volume 07/20/12 2.55 2.73 2.50 2.70 9,780 07/19/12 2.75 2.75 2.31 2.55 11,286 07/18/12 2.76 3.01 2.51 2.80 31,350 07/17/12 2.30 2.75 2.30 2.66 16,731 07/16/12 2.07 2.44 2.06 2.44 25,926 07/13/12 2.15 2.15 2.15 2.15 2,700 07/12/12 2.15 2.23 2.10 2.22 41,423 07/11/12 2.14 2.15 1.87 2.15 37,422 07/10/12 1.93 2.02 1.81 2.00 39,870 07/09/12 1.70 2.00 1.70 1.95 13,929 07/06/12 1.81 1.90 1.59 1.73 35,492 07/05/12 2.00 2.00 1.73 1.83 26,920 07/03/12 2.18 2.18 1.88 2.00 19,300 07/02/12 1.89 2.14 1.81 2.09 99,911 06/29/12 1.42 1.95 1.42 1.88 66,565 06/28/12 1.22 1.45 1.03 1.42 212,128 06/27/12 1.77 1.79 1.20 1.25 189,523 06/26/12 1.89 1.97 1.77 1.80 16,400 06/25/12 1.76 2.11 1.72 1.90 253,953 06/22/12 1.65 1.95 1.56 1.87 190,151 06/21/12 2.18 2.18 1.80 2.00 40,384 06/20/12 2.01 2.17 2.00 2.17 131,175 06/19/12 1.90 2.08 1.77 2.04 400,453 06/18/12 1.73 1.88 1.47 1.82 342,941 06/15/12 1.43 1.75 1.37 1.66 218,452 06/14/12 1.48 1.54 1.33 1.43 163,354 06/13/12 1.10 1.50 0.93 1.47 360,786 06/12/12 1.19 1.34 1.12 1.18 568,765 06/11/12 1.11 1.18 1.11 1.12 78,534 06/08/12 0.92 1.10 0.92 1.04 237,100 06/07/12 0.93 0.93 0.87 0.92 42,070 06/06/12 0.97 1.00 0.94 0.94 55,250 06/05/12 0.74 1.04 0.70 1.02 228,651 06/04/12 0.76 0.775 0.70 0.74 35,969 06/01/12 0.60 0.68 0.60 0.67 52,500 05/31/12 0.64 0.6401 0.60 0.64 77,720 05/30/12 0.76 0.76 0.61 0.66 110,495 05/29/12 0.79 0.85 0.75 0.75 404,525 05/25/12 0.83 0.83 0.64 0.795 196,664 05/24/12 0.79 0.83 0.70 0.75 71,613 05/23/12 0.935 0.935 0.54 0.84 525,178 05/22/12 0.68 0.95 0.67 0.94 444,084 05/21/12 0.55 0.68 0.548 0.68 410,758 05/18/12 0.45 0.55 0.445 0.55 482,600 05/17/12 0.45 0.45 0.45 0.45 3,777 05/16/12 0.37 0.39 0.365 0.39 45,400 05/14/12 0.31 0.36 0.31 0.36 14,500 05/11/12 0.329 0.329 0.329 0.329 8,500 05/10/12 0.31 0.31 0.30 0.30 55,000 05/09/12 0.333 0.44 0.333 0.44 6,990 05/07/12 0.26 0.32 0.26 0.32 3,900 04/23/12 0.19 0.19 0.19 0.19 14,800
this is info from 6.19.12 re: promotion
http://newsletter.hotstocked.com/thirdparties/view/Welsson-Financial-Media-3692/
short info can be matched up >> courtesy of daily reg sho link
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=FMNL&SortBy=volume&Month=6-1-2012&IMAGE1.x=10&IMAGE1.y=9
i went back to check some *volume* dates against daily reg sho
starting in may >> when *volume shows* on 5.18.12
20120518|FMNL|237350|0|438350|O 54.1% 44,250 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 58.3% 20120521|FMNL|214294|0|369294|O = 58% 41,464 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 62.5% 20120522|FMNL|160318|0|316352|O = 50.6% 127,732 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 64.8% 20120523|FMNL|95831|0|446678|O = 21.4% 78,500 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 33.1% 20120529|FMNL|94275|0|381325|O = 24.7% 23,200 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 29% 20120612|FMNL|72175|0|484035|O = 14.9% 84,730 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 27.5% 20120618|FMNL|104914|0|240541|O = 43.6% 102,400 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 60.4% 20120619|FMNL|57932|0|150753|O = 38.4% 249,700 t trade shares *bypass* daily reg sho = 76.8%
what is interesting to me >> is there is no volume to speak of
after 6.19.12 >> there are 2 days vol is 200k+ and 2 days vol
runs over 189k+ >> after years of documenting trading data
i have a problem when *volume* closely aligns >> whether it's
what gets *reported* by X MM to finra >> or shown via daily trades
now why does this pique my curiosity? > it is because of this headline
Unusual trading in OTC stock sparks probe in British
Columbia
7/20/2012 9:01:18 PM | Peter Kennedy
The BCSC recently halted trading in Vancouver-based Forum National Investments, which saw its stock price soar to over $2.50 from 15 cents earlier this year.
The executive director of the British Columbia Securities Commission has issued a temporary order and notice of hearing against three men and a B.C.-based company over concerns about unusual trading volume and share price increases.
The temporary order bars all trading or transferring of the shares of Forum National Investments Ltd. (OBB: FMNL, Stock Forum), a B.C. reporting issuer that is quoted on the U.S. OTC Bulletin Board and recently saw its share price skyrocket in the wake of a paid promotion campaign.
The executive director initially intervened by issuing a halt trade order on June 28, 2012. But he will aim to have the order extended at a hearing in Vancouver on July 31.
Daniel Clozza, Martin Tutschek and Grant Curtis, all of whom are B.C. residents, are named in the notice of hearing. Clozza is the President, CEO, and director of Forum National, while Tutschek is the chief financial officer and a company director. Curtis is a shareholder.
The notice says BCSC staff is concerned with the unusual trading volume and price increase in the shares of Forum National that occurred between May and June 2012. Staff is also concerned with the apparent attempts to violate or circumvent the halt trade order by transferring or issuing shares of Forum National.
During the relevant period, the market for Forum National shares experienced a sudden increase in trading volume and price. In fact, the market capitalization of Forum National increased from just over US$6 million to over US$120 million.
On April 11, 2012 Forum closed at 15 cents on volume of 110,000, leaving the company with a market cap of $6.4 million, based on 42.4 million shares outstanding.
During May and June, Forum National shares experienced a sudden increase in trading volume and price that coincided with certain news releases and an internet promotion campaign.
On July 18, 2012, Forum National shares closed at US$2.80, raising the market cap to US$120.8 million, based on 43.1 million shares outstanding.
During this sudden increase, Forum National was the subject of an internet promotion campaign funded by undisclosed persons, and the company itself issued seven news releases related to the expansion of its viatical settlement business.
Viatical settlement
According to the BCSC, some of the internet stock promotion websites explicitly stated that over US$650,000 had been spent to promote Forum National. “The internet material was highly promotional and predicted a significant increase in the shares of Forum National, generally projecting a target price of US$10,’’ the BCSC said in the notice of hearing released on Friday.
A viatical settlement is a term used for a settlement involving an insured person who is terminally or chronically ill. It involves the sale of a policy owner’s existing life insurance policy to a third party for more than its cash surrender value, but less than its net death benefit.
Such a sale provides the owner with a lump sum. The third party becomes the new owner of the policy, pays the monthly premiums and receives the full benefit of the policy when the insured dies. According to Wikipedia, purchasing a viatical is similar to buying a zero coupon bond with an uncertain maturity date. The return depends on the seller’s life expectancy and when he or she dies.
The BCSC said the news releases allegedly indicate that between May 15, 2012 and June 25, 2012, Forum National had taken significant steps to expand its viatical insurance settlement business. However, the BCSC says these claims cannot currently be independently verified with publicly available information.
Significant trading
BCSC staff requested that Forum National issue a clarifying news release explaining what role, if any, the company or any of its management had in the promotional internet campaign. To date, the company has declined to issue the release.
Meanwhile, accounts in the name of individuals associated with Clozza engaged significant trading, the BCSC is alleging:
Between April 20, 2012 and June 22, 2012, the account belonging to Clozza’s 74-year-old mother bought 98,600 shares and sold 314,600 shares, for gross profits of $121,697.
Between April 26, 2012 and June 28, 2012, Curtis’s account received a transfer of one million Forum National shares, bought an additional 54,275 shares and sold 735,625 shares for gross profits of $738, 041.
These two accounts are held at a branch of a Vancouver investment dealer, which had at least 52 separate accounts that held positions or traded in Forum National during the relevant period.
These allegations have not been proven. Counsel for the executive director will apply to extend the temporary halt trade order pending an investigation into:
1. The source and funding of the internet material.
2. A connection, if any, between the internet material and the respondents.
3. Reasons for the increased price and trading volume of Forum National shares
4. Attempts to circumvent or violate the halt trade order through transferring and issuing shares of Forum National.
5. Forum National has adequately disclosed the extent to which the company and each of its directors, officers and insiders are involved in or had any knowledge of the Internet material.
6. Forum National has provided the executive director with information that adequately supports the claims make in its news releases.
More allegations about unexplained attempts to transfer shares
The BCSC alleges that on July 5, 2012, Clozza and Tutschek attended the offices of Forum National’s transfer agent in Vancouver. They allegedly carried with them share certificates representing approximately 2.7 million shares of Forum National. Among these, were certificates in the names of Curtis and Tutschek, the Commission alleges.
Clozza allegedly instructed the transfer agent to “overnight” transfer share certificates into the name of a Bahamian company by way of a U.S. brokerage firm. The transfer agent allegedly informed the commission.
On July 16, 2012, Tutschek allegedly sent the transfer agent a treasury direction signed by Clozza and Tutschek on July 11, 2012, directing it to issue share certificates representing 137,500 shares in Forum National. The transfer agent refused.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Peter Kennedy
Peter Kennedy is a Stockhouse reporter and web content editor.
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disclosure >> i hold zero shares of FMNL >> but find the timing
interesting >> electronic footprints clearly exist and as i've
posted a few 1000 x over >> daily reg sho shows true re: buys
what is stunning to me is the ability to HIDE >> behind t trades
that bypass daily reg sho
will be watching >> rt l2 >> to see what comes to pass
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4kids
all jmo
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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Who's Next!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukm
Shortmans Anthem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E
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AlanC
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:22:18 PM
Re: bobbybdb post# 203475
Post # of 203560
bobbybdb: Spot on! Nothing else needs to be done. The dividends will be paid when the timing is right. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
stoprun
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:35:44 PM
Re: ib12u post# 203479
Post # of 203560
Wow, now I feel alot better,I will be able to sleep like a baby tonight. Thanks & Good Luck! Where in the heck did I put those sleeping pills?
Rocket Man
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:38:59 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203477
Post # of 203560
Doing well. The data suggests that the B & SC are very valuable. Nothing changed there per FAQs and historical 8Ks, etc. Could the assets disappear? So far they are in WD. NMGL is to become current as is RENS as well.. So we shall see the facts per the PRs in GNCP and NMGL in the short term.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:43:28 PM
Re: Anvil post# 203459
Post # of 203560
Times are changing with WD, per text over time..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:45:34 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203464
Post # of 203560
FFGO is gone to WD.. $.003449. Nice!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:46:36 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203465
Post # of 203560
Lol.. Might re look that.. Go FFGO.. Nice!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:48:32 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203473
Post # of 203560
Perhaps or sooner.. lol or not.. Go WD/NMGL+$.003449 RL
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:52:40 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203482
Post # of 203560
HGLC was created by who? Yup divs!! Fact! Record dates were set in B & Sc.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
bobbybdb
Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:25:39 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203455
Post # of 203560
I have always thought that buying the remainder of CS/ Bouse shares was not ever to be achieved, it was a condition for maintaining full control of the dividend once it was paid in full to WD.
When they are ready, all that would be needed, is a waive of that requirement by the purchaser of FFGO shares.(rectifiable weasel clause) could happen any time, we are not waiting for any further purchase of Copperstone/Bouse shares.IMO
seventeneleven, I must say, your posting is right on, I have not really been reading these past months, but now reading your post's you have really got a handle on what is actually going on.imo good posting!
SevenTenEleven
Friday, July 20, 2012 12:02:47 AM
Re: bobbybdb post# 203475
Post # of 203560
Thanks! DD is key! And having documentation to back up any claims is what gives credibility to what the company has stated, and what they are still able to achieve for shareholders.
Good Luck!
Chas56789
Friday, July 20, 2012 3:12:05 AM
Re: None
Post # of 203560
The Bouse and the South Copperstone become immensely valueable the moment the government declares that our currency is backed by a basket of commodities. The government will then be the biggest purchaser of Gold and silver from these mines.
Tic Toc Tic Toc !!
Chas56789
AlanC
Friday, July 20, 2012 8:02:16 AM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203496
Post # of 203560
ukpeter: Exactly! Choices were made long ago. Management shared with us their plan which includes seeing that the long longs are paid their for their long overdue dividends. Of course it will be those who sold non existant shares that will have to pony up the cash but their is a record that cannot be erased as to who owes what. Our divies are going to be very expensive for the shortman. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
SevenTenEleven
Friday, July 20, 2012 8:58:25 AM
Re: AlanC post# 203497
Post # of 203560
AlanC, those who are responsible for billions of counterfeit electronic equity markers have resources. Those resources include, but are not limited to, captured folks at the SEC, the US Treasury, the Federal Reserve, and the media. In order to win this battle for America and for Capitalism, those fighting for what is right, know they had to be smarter and better organized than those banksters and brokesters who have been aiding and abetting counterfeit marker makers.
It is just a matter of time before the who thing blows wide open. FFGO, and a number of other well positioned companies, will be rewarding their shareholders significantly sooner than later.
The company is doing just as they communicated. "Calls" to communicate with the company are attempts to get the company and/or its principles to commit securities fraud. One slip up such as that and the who dividend process is threatened. The company is well aware of the folks attempting to prevent distribution of wealth to shareholders. The reason being, the majority of wealth created will be flowing from the counterfeiting criminals.
Looking forward to our dividend. The challenges along the way will be well worth it for shareholder, large and small.
Tic Toc
AlanC
Friday, July 20, 2012 9:09:30 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203499
Post # of 203560
SevenTenEleven: I too believe that there are some honest men and women working behind the scenes to address the corruption that we all know exists. I am sure they are fully aware of who is captured and who is not. I have been waiting for raids resulting in a roundup and perp walks for some time. Things will change rapidly for the better for investors once that happens. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
paunch13
Friday, July 20, 2012 9:16:55 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203499
Post # of 203560
Seven
That has been the problem all along, the shorters have so much money they have stolen from the shareholders that they can and have paid bribes to many of the officials in charge that it made it very difficult to get any of the officials to inforce the law but hopefully that is changing and very soon I hope, and then just maybe we will see some of the shorters and their helpers see some prison time
John
Vianna
Friday, July 20, 2012 10:38:40 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203499
Post # of 203560
FFGO - Again, very well said, SevenTenEleven...and you're so right..."The challenges along the way will be well worth it for shareholder, large and small."
I hope you and all have a great day and Weekend.
TIC TOC!!!!!!!!!
V
varmit
Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:57:46 AM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203496
Post # of 203560
WELLstated pete !!!!!!
why all the warning ???????????? too late isnt it ?????????
or is it ???? the warning is for the mms to cover at $1.00 pss before they are forced tocover by the sec at 4.60 RIGHT WHERE THE SHORTING BEGAN
so we are in for some huge huge money as asettlement soon
uk peter1
Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:05:42 AM
Re: varmit post# 203510
Post # of 203560
hi Varmit thanks but as the MMs make the Market ( Supply and demand) the price would only drop overnight!! Mmm now am confused!! FFGO gone forever...so what price are we talking about!? The A and B s!? But you need FfGO shares to be eligible to get them...which MMs have
assisted to Counterfeit andSell!!!
So Varmit what exactly would go up? So damn confusing!!
UK Pete hoping them who have cheatedwill pay up but not just for 5mins until they fix the price again!! ? hmmm
SevenTenEleven
Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:28:23 AM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203512
Post # of 203560
FFGO - Private transactions by retail brokers with their clients.
If they could offer $1 to close out an entire position, they are legally able/capable to/of close/closing out at $1 per share.
Quote:
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Hey Varmit how do they cover for $1 FFGO not trading now..never will again!!
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Tic Toc
uk peter1
Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:00:11 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203515
Post # of 203516
ok Puppy think you have reminded us all of that many times!!
Do agree FFGO Bezzano long gone!!
But trouble i have puppy is that the Mines are REAL!! Been Checked out..Gold to a degree in them!! So DO NOT say worthless as that would be WRONG!! A LIE f you know too!!?
Plus are you getting paid for all his time you spend on here?
I have Shares for my reason.....you obviuosly dont!! So your Motive? ?
No more folk can be conned if thats the case Puppy..so dont say to warn folk!! Give us some intelligence!!
So lets say as stand...Management have been Crap..maybe Scammers to some degree!! But Goldmines are REAL!!!
UK Peter Please MR Lowenthal lets us know Something!!
bobbybdb
Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:24:59 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203512
Post # of 203560
uk peter, The dividend was announced and issued by NMGL to WD (dividend paid in full by NMGL) prior to revoke of registration
Any dividends announced/paid will have to be covered by brokers, normally the company issues dividends through the TA,to brokers,when those issues are gone and the brokers are still holding markers in accounts that didn't receive dividends,that which in turn, HAS to be made good by the brokers.
At that point, the ugly head of the NSS shows up that needs to be explained, and any penalty attached will need to be paid.
All that needs to get this ball rolling, is for NMGL to waive the contract controlling clause of obtaining 100% of Copperstone/Bouse shares.
The instant that is waived,WD will be free to issue the NMGL A's & B's to holders of FFGO shares, then the stuff will hit the fan.IMO
spiritthing
Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:45:32 PM
Re: bobbybdb post# 203517
Post # of 203560
Like your breakdown of events that will happen. Thanks Spirit
bobbybdb
Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:31:51 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203560
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bobbybdb
Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:38:49 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203521
Post # of 203560
uk peter No, I did not say that they would need 100% physical ownership, what I am saying is they can waive that condition and release the A's & B's at any time they desire, if that is the case they would never need your copperstone/bouse shares.
That is what I am trying to say, that condition in the contract can be waived, it was only a method to be able to pay the dividend in full to WD and still hold control of when it can be released to FFGO shareholders
You posted
"Yes indeed agree they need to attain 100% Ownership as stated..but sadly they don't want my historical div shares ( Lumb told me but 3months ago so hope changed!?"
As for the $1.00 per share, for FFGO, all I can say on that is, there will be a shortage of issued A's& B's of NMGL to cover the total amount of FFGO markers held in brokers accounts.
The brokers have a contracted fiduciary responsibility to cover any and all dividends that are declared to the underling stock whether it is trading or not.
When the dividend is issued, if there is not enough to cover all brokers markers, then the brokers must purchase those dividends to for full their responsibility ,problem is where are they going to get them.
That in turn will highlight the naked short position the brokers are holding and needs to be covered.
That is where many think the share price will increase,because of supply and demand for those shares to cover, I have no idea how much.
bobbybdb
Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:31:53 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203527
Post # of 203530
puppydot, you are so far out in left field that you missed the entire ball game, nufsaid!
diamondguru-one
Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:34:55 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203528
Post # of 203531
funny thing is YOU are "Absolutely" right !!! it's going to happen!!!! and DAY...any WEEK....any MONTH !!! But it "WILL" happen !!! thanks again for all YOUR support in FFGO...NON-SHAREHOLDER!!! tic toc
remember "10,000,000" ounces of GOLD !!! "3400%" ROI !!!!
Next Week(s) .. at best
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 22, 2012 3:01:08 PM
Re: bobbybdb post# 203517
Post # of 203560
FFGO Div. is NMGL/WD=$.003449+
Quote:
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uk peter, The dividend was announced and issued by NMGL to WD (dividend paid in full by NMGL) prior to revoke of registration
Any dividends announced/paid will have to be covered by brokers, normally the company issues dividends through the TA,to brokers,when those issues are gone and the brokers are still holding markers in accounts that didn't receive dividends,that which in turn, HAS to be made good by the brokers.
At that point, the ugly head of the NSS shows up that needs to be explained, and any penalty attached will need to be paid.
All that needs to get this ball rolling, is for NMGL to waive the contract controlling clause of obtaining 100% of Copperstone/Bouse shares.
The instant that is waived,WD will be free to issue the NMGL A's & B's to holders of FFGO shares, then the stuff will hit the fan.IMO ~bobbybdb
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
varmit
Sunday, July 22, 2012 3:26:33 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203560
attention ffgo yes ffgo is dead ,gone,dormant,revolked,done for ,la dee da !!
but BEWARE of people that say never ,they do not know the future ,
ffgo can come back for a modest amount of fees and filings ,
subco can jv up and start mining bouse and s.c.
ffgo shareholders would probably get 10 fold on there divy amount around 3.5 cents per share ,
just think of a press release that announced that subco hit a vein on bouse with over 10 million ounces of gold @ 2000 an ounce .
that would put us right back in play
mutts and dogs !!!!! please understand this is not only possible but probably coming soon to reality !!!!!
thats the rumors going around southern arizona mining folks !!!!!
they all have heard about this .clocks tickin
varmit
Sunday, July 22, 2012 3:37:42 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203537
RED ALERT there are several gold mines located in southern arizona owned by 5 companies that have enough gold in them to stabalize gold markets .
these are owned by hglc ,ffgo,aspagold,gncc,and nmgl .
miles and miles of gold and claims .the most valuable asset to have ahold of in these economic stressed times .
just 2 name a few mines with STAGGERINGamounts of gold
OATMAN
BOUSE
YABA GOLD AND SILVER
LOOKOUT GOLD AND SILVER
AMERICAN MOLYGOLD
STORMCLOUD
CHERRY
AMBASSADOR
LADY EAGLE
list goes on and on and on and on !!!!! thats alota gold what an excellent place to be in gold in this crazy economy ,,,,, how can we lose ?????
uk peter1
Sunday, July 22, 2012 4:45:07 PM
Re: underdog150 post# 203538
Post # of 203540
hi Underdog fully agree..them rumours all started here!!
But the Goldmines EXIST!! Please dont you or Puppy etc say they DONT!! How much Gold? Not properly verified! Agree to that.
So end of the day..FFGO agree gone ( As Stands).
So 49thousand question..how much are Existing Goldmines Worth!???
Miners near..verbally state Millions. How Many Millions?
Still awaiting for Legal person to tell me if reverting back to note holders...do Shareowners get a split of Monies when sold? Forced to sell..liquidation perhaps.
So Underdog No pushing under bus!!' Lets face facts...rules of liquidation in the States...am ni expert here though but know theres Value in the Goldmines!!
So no need for you to say all gone now..it has to an extent..but Mines there!!
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 22, 2012 7:27:06 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203560
FFGO - Appears that something is coming this week from the principles connected with FFGO and NMGL.
Those short always send smoke signals ahead of the news.
Last few weeks for them to have brokers get write downs.
No more $1 per position opportunities for the brokers to close!
$1 per share settlement coming?
Tic Toc
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:15:47 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203555
Post # of 203560
FFGO - He may not be interested in buying them since he knows they are illegal counterfeit electronic equity markers, issued by market makers.
Good Luck!
paunch13
Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:20:48 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203556
Post # of 203560
Seven
One more week gone and that makes us one more week closer to the divis
John
varmit
Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:59:12 PM
Re: None
Post # of 343
WONDER IF SJCH has anything to do with subco??????????????
evidently subco is teaming up as a jv mining play .... to mine bouse at 10 million ounces .....plus .
gold going to 2000 next weeks
SevenTenEleven
Friday, July 20, 2012 9:44:50 AM
Re: varmit post# 342
Post # of 343
SJCH - Those naked short selling and preying on the principles of SJCH et al. are about to learn a very tough and expensive lesson. Many feel untouchable. That false sense of confidence will be their downfall.
$1 per share as a penalty for each and every naked short sold counterfeit electronic equity marker in retail brokerage accounts!
Tic Toc
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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AlanC
Monday, July 23, 2012 1:06:48 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203569
Post # of 203589
FFGO fact: Traded well over 2 billion short shares since FINRA started keeping records. Naked short is huge. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
bobbybdb
Monday, July 23, 2012 10:51:01 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203566
Post # of 203568
Really weird, every time I go to Ihub FFGO board, I always seem to end up on the puppydot board, sorry for the intrusion.
uk peter1
Monday, July 23, 2012 3:40:31 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203564
Post # of 203589
Puppy i know that...you have told me 3times!! So question remains....Will the Valuable Goldmines be Mined or reverted Scammingly back to. Noteholders!!??
Oh and do you work for someone being here Puppy? Too good to be true!?
uk peter1
Monday, July 23, 2012 4:28:04 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203576
Post # of 203589
hi Hunter yes i know none operating Mines......but news a couple of weeks ago... within 6 months NMGL may be involved with Mining...so yes tic tic again!!
If by Xmas this year Nothing has changed!? News!?
I for one will say it 100% Scam!!
UK Peter waiting last Time Out Period until going to bombard SEC with CONCERNS!!
varmit
Monday, July 23, 2012 5:08:41 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203574
Post # of 203582
of course there is no proof nss , duh dog , if there was proof the crooks would be in jail already because its illegal to nss ,,,,,especially to the tune of 5 trillion
shares available at western diversified ,, so the fact is the nss can only be EXPOSED by a simple little super 8 k coming soon from nmgl sparking the dividend and
the short nss will be forced to cover up to 5 t w/d ![]()
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at a buck a share of course !!!!!! we win again
varmit
Monday, July 23, 2012 5:15:00 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203581
Post # of 203584
hunter false statements again ,,,,
american bonanza , our next door mining action has more than enough cash to move right over to bouse and dig away , subco runningb the whole works ,,,
so once again hunter u are so very wrong ,,,, never say it cant be done !!!! what a ppor attitude that you have , and you are not smart enough to predict the future .
hunter if u were smart enough u would not be here at ffgo wasting your time for nothing ......
only optimism will be tolerated here at ffgo !!! got it >?????
uk peter1
Monday, July 23, 2012 5:44:54 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203579
Post # of 203589
ok Puppy i cannot dispute it.....Personally have No firm facts. Would say yes i be surprised if they finally initiate Mining action!!
But also see No confirmation from NMGL who hold the ball/s !! Which way they kicking!!?
If they go under !? Going that way!!
The number is Fully up!!
So thanks for information..am just going to wait a further 6 months then thats it!!
VARMIT come on...please...where's your facts/ information!? And not just words!!?
UK Peter...Head Spinning!! Mr Lowenthal please open your mouth!!
uk peter1
Monday, July 23, 2012 6:45:57 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203590
Post # of 203591
ok Thanks Puppy..have read with interest.
Just know someone ..probably Seven!! Or Varmit!? Will say again it confirmedNMGL can issue and all is well...News out Soon!! Tic toc!!!
So someone will badly get it Wrong!!
Cheers Puppy
bobbybdb
Monday, July 23, 2012 8:22:00 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203591
Post # of 203592
uk peter, I hope you have time to read this.
Mining Claims were never for sale as some say, NMGL did not have the purpose of selling 100% of mining claims.
What was sold to NMGL from FFGO was """STOCK""" in copperstone and Bouse company, if I remember correctly FFGO owned 46% of copperstone stock and 23%of Bouse stock, never did FFGO own a mining claim.
Funny how some are still saying that mining claims were owned, and how much they really known about the difference between owning mining claims and owning STOCK in those mining claims.Kind gives one an insight to knowledge those have, and if any follow on comments by them can be trusted. IMO
jb1967lbk
Monday, July 23, 2012 5:10:11 PM
Re: mastaflash post# 152441
Post # of 152445
Read the post that followed. The "8" was supposed to have been the ASCII character for infinity that iHub couldn't read.
Ultimately, you will not find a contra-party who will sit on the other side of a naked short position from you without some sort of capital committed to the position. Call it "collateral" if you like.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=77787388
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
next week(s) is here
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AlanC
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:49:26 AM
Re: A deleted message
Post # of 203625
Slowly but surely the Wall Street criminals are being exposed and brought down. Mortgage fraud, trading fraud, derivative fraud, interest rate fraud, and naked shorting fraud. Lots of arrests to be made and housecleaning to be done but it is happening.
These criminals thought and some still do they were protected from being exposed and arrested. Perp walks a plenty. The folks at Penn State thought they would never have to pay a price just like the naked shorters. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
AlanC
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:22:29 AM
Re: AlanC post# 203597
Post # of 203625
Will we be seeing abusive naked shorters receiving 25 year prison sentences?
The language of the statute, which is found in Title 18 of the U.S. Code, is pretty straightforward, at least as far as these things go:
Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, a scheme or artifice-
(1) to defraud any person in connection with any commodity for future delivery, or any option on a commodity for future delivery, or any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d)); or
(2) to obtain, by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, any money or property in connection with the purchase or sale of any commodity for future delivery, or any option on a commodity for future delivery, or any security of an issuer with a class of securities registered under section 12 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78l) or that is required to file reports under section 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78o(d));
shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+m are worth waiting for!
paunch13
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:25:45 AM
Re: AlanC post# 203597
Post # of 203625
Alan
And it can't be too soon or to severe , I believe there needs to be prison terms and maybe at least 5 to 10 years for the naked short in FFGO and for their helpers also
John
bobbybdb
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:14:50 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203594
Post # of 203625
Well I see we made a little progress on your learning of what transpired here.
I see your play on words what you once called "selling mining claims", is now being addressed as
"mining claims STOCK" nice step forward.
However you still haven't got it totally right,
I'll give a little hint, change your statement of "NMGL completing the agreement to sell 100% of the mining claims outstanding STOCK."
Change the agreement to "SELL" 100%" too... "PURCHASE"... the remainder of outstanding shares to equal 100% ownership, of all outstanding issued shares, as FFGO only had 46% and 23% of the total that NMGL was buying.
That is why the contract clause of OBTAING the remainder of 54% and 77% before any dividend was released to FFGO shareholders,
However In my opinion, that clause can be waived by the NMGL at any time, NMGL has already paid in full to FFGO, for the 46&23% that they "PURCHASED" from FFGO.
bobbybdb
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:20:22 AM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203595
Post # of 203625
uk peter it has always been STOCK, the mining claims statement was only someone's fallacy.
bobbybdb
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:51:05 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203604
Post # of 203625
woops, a step backwards, NMGL does not, or never did own any mining claims, can't sell what you don't own.
I noticed you used my term of weasel clause, as I posted the other day that:
The contract was established with a "rectifiable weasel clause".
That would allow NMGL to pay in full, for shares sold to them with A's and B's (NMGL shares), and still have control, of when those A's& B's could be issued to FFGO shareholders.
It is my opinion that NMGL was never in the market to buy the remainder of the 100%, but had to retain control of when the dividend would be released to FFGO shareholders.
As far as NMGL selling the shares in the future, that is left open to their final discretion, this will be my last post to you on this subject, as I think you have some reading too do on what actually happened and why.
AlanC
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:29:24 PM
Re: AlanC post# 203598
Post # of 203626
FINRA's daily short sales numbers for FFGO which totaled well over 2 billion shares for the short time records were kept are telling. The fact that FINRA stopped reporting the SHO numbers for FFGO in August 2010 and refuses to explain why is also telling. Couple those facts with this information on their top cases and you will see UBSS and Credit Suisse cases for mismarking short trades as long are in the top 10 which could mean that every FFGO share sold was short since FINRA began keeping records and it then makes sense that our liquidating dividend well could be an agreed upon settlement that the regulators control the disbursement of.
http://www.securitiestechnologymonitor.com/gallery/finra-enforcement-25-top-cases-30622-1.html Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:50:09 PM
Re: AlanC post# 203616
Post # of 203626
FFGO - AlanC, those who have been naked short selling and cellar boxing OTC stocks know what they have been doing was/is illegal.
First they claimed that naked short selling did not exist/occur.
Then they claimed that naked short selling did exist/occur, but only to create an orderly flow/market.
Now there are claims that naked short selling into buying demand is a market maker's job and that naked short selling many times the float, the OS, and/or the AS is legal and justified for stocks "deemed" worthless.
The story continues to evolve and change as the DOJ and the IRS are closing in.
Those working for the SEC, out of, but not limited to, the Boston Office and the Miami Office, who are aiding and abetting the naked short selling criminals are on notice. Paper trails and patterns build a case over time.
Looking forward to the $0.003449, or more, per share "settlement". Those of us adding FFGO, when we were able, will be rewarded for our patience and our commitment to education other shareholders of the facts and filings.
Tic Toc
diamondguru-one
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:47:21 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203604
Post # of 203628
The end result !!!! "3400%" ROI "10,000,000" ounces of gold !!!
WELL WORTH the WAIT!!!! TIC TOC!!!!
Bull Finch
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:36:53 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 344
Post # of 345
I can't remember if it was ever said
that SJCH had a NSS issue, but I guess it doesn't matter does it?
I think you may have the wrong board, it's the other board that has the NSS issue!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=3111
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:01:40 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203623
Post # of 203660
Lol.. Pretty sure GNCP and NMGL told us a story about FFGO...
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
AlanC
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:38:32 AM
Re: AlanC post# 201721
Post # of 203660
FINRA provides the evidence in black and white. Total volume traded for the day and the percentage of the total volume that were short sales. The numbers are staggering. Over 90% and
FINRA admits there numbers are on the low side. UBSS and Credit Suisse fined by regulators for mismarking short trades and calling them long. It is likely that every single share sold in the past two years did not exist. 100% short sales! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
FINRA short sale numbers for Novemeber 2010 for FFGO!!!
20101101|FFGO|2849999|3849999|0 74%
20101102|FFGO|1750000|1750000|O 100%
20101103|FFGO|7000000|7107200|O 98%
20101104|FFGO|2000000|2000000|O 100%
20101105|FFGO|7999999|10999999|O 73%
20101108|FFGO|15050000|26500000|O 57%
20101110|FFGO|1000000|2898917|O 34%
20101111|FFGO|2419999|2419999|O 100%
20101112|FFGO|3100000|3200000|O 97%
20101116|FFGO|1000000|1340000|O 75%
20101117|FFGO|6000001|10778584|O 56%
20101118|FFGO|2000000|4014600|O 50%
20101122|FFGO|19845000|19845000|O 100%
20101123|FFGO|500000|1000000|O 50%
20101130|FFGO|20385000|21035000|O 97%
Nov. totals: 79,354,998.00 107,739,299.00 74% sold short
Here are the FINRA short sale numbers for December 2010:
20101202|FFGO|999999|999999|O 100%
20101203|FFGO|615000|4585000|O 13%
20101206|FFGO|1100000|1220000|O 90%
20101207|FFGO|700000|3700000|O 19%
20101208|FFGO|750000|1017259|O 74%
20101209|FFGO|2500000|4500000|O 56%
20101210|FFGO|57089999|74194973|O 77%
20101213|FFGO|6000000|10005000|O 59.7%
20101214|FFGO|28900077|31695902|O 91%
20101215|FFGO|5500000|5704441|O 96%
20101216|FFGO|33250000|54755000|O 61%
20101217|FFGO|8890998|9340998|O 95%
20101220|FFGO|5615800|6660800|O 84%
20101221|FFGO|9600000|11200000|O 86%
20101222|FFGO|24577777|31723803|O 77%
20101227|FFGO|154399995|176901620|O 87%
20101228|FFGO|4999999|4999999|O 100%
20101229|FFGO|9382269|9426819|O 100%
20101230|FFGO|7000000|7010000|O 100%
20101231|FFGO|4081168|8192303|0 50%
Dec. totals: 361,453,081.00 457,833,916.00 79%
2010 short sale totals: 440,808,079. out of a total volume of 565,573,215 or 78% shares sold short. Note well the SEC only started publishing FINRA's daily short sale numbers in Nov. of 2010.
January 2011
20110103|FFGO|20000000|22953402|O 87%
20110104|FFGO|9100000|9400000|O 96.8%
20110105|FFGO|8250000|13250000|O 62.3%
20110106|FFGO|11000000|11220000|O 98%
20110107|FFGO|9999999|9999999|O 100%
20110110|FFGO|400000|900000|O 44%
20110111|FFGO|1500000|2000000|O 75%
20110112|FFGO|1400000|1400000|O 100%
20110113|FFGO|1300000|1800000|O 72%
20110114|FFGO|23859999|38587151|O 61%
20110118|FFGO|3000400|3400400|O 88%
20110120|FFGO|7499999|8099999|O 92.5%
20110124|FFGO|1800000|1800000|O 100%
20110125|FFGO|800000|800000|O 100%
20110126|FFGO|10000000|10000625|O 99.9%
20110131|FFGO|317800|317800|O 100%
February 2011
20110202|FFGO|20700000|36210000|O 57%
20110203|FFGO|13400000|38601000|O 34.7%
20110209|FFGO|200000|365000|O 54.7%
20110210|FFGO|2900000|3700000|O 78.3%
20110211|FFGO|500000|4970000|O 10%
20110214|FFGO|2000000|2006250|O 99.6%
20110216|FFGO|17700000|27770000|O 63%
20110217|FFGO|525499999|528499999|O 99.4% COLD WINTER DAY
20110218|FFGO|7600000|8725000|O 87.1%
20110222|FFGO|10000000|10526708|O 94.9%
20110223|FFGO|2000000|2700000|O 74%
20110225|FFGO|1000000|1455000|O 68.7%
March 2011
20110301|FFGO|1000000|0|1350000|O 74%
20110303|FFGO|1795000|0|3492848|O 51%
20110304|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20110307|FFGO|1800000|0|1800000|O 100%
20110311|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20110314|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110315|FFGO|3500000|0|4500000|O 77.7%
20110316|FFGO|11500000|0|11500650|O 99.99%
20110317|FFGO|3114000|0|3617357|O 86%
20110318|FFGO|13020000|0|13020000|O 100%
20110324|FFGO|150000|0|701113|O 21%
20110325|FFGO|110000|0|110000|O 100%
20110329|FFGO|1497300|0|1497300|O 100%
20110331|FFGO|1999999|0|3430269|O 58%
April 2011
20110404|FFGO|5891100|0|6651100|O 88.5%
20110405|FFGO|126400|0|126400|O 100%
20110406|FFGO|150000|0|150000|O 100%
20110411|FFGO|456000|0|456000|O 100%
20110413|FFGO|876543|0|876543|O 100%
20110414|FFGO|4100000|0|4741400|O 86.4%
20110415|FFGO|1500000|0|2500000|O 65%
20110420|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20110421|FFGO|1560000|0|1560000|O 100%
20110425|FDTC|4000|0|25000|O 16%
20110426|FFGO|1000000|0|1000162|O 99.9%
20110427|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110428|FFGO|8072700|0|8322700|O 96.9%
20110429|FFGO|30210000|0|30210000|O 100%
May 2011
20110502|FFGO|4476700|0|4476700|O 100%
20110503|FFGO|7338600|0|10788600|O 68%
20110504|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110505|FFGO|1620000|0|2140000|O 75.7%
20110506|FFGO|1500000|0|1505583|O 99.6%
20110509|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110511|FFGO|3000000|0|3040000|O 88.2%
20110512|FFGO|7200000|0|8200000|O 87.8%
20110516|FFGO|8200000|0|8300000|O 98.7%
20110517|FFGO|4099900|0|4199900|O 97.6%
20110518|FFGO|585000|0|585000|O 100%
20110520|FFGO|1000777|0|1000777|O 100%
20110523|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110524|FFGO|500000|0|800000|O 62%
20110525|FFGO|18585000|0|18585000|O 100%
20110527|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110531|FFGO|7628700|0|8031462|O 94.9%
June 2011
20110603|FFGO|400000|0|400000|O 100%
20110606|FFGO|2710000|0|2710000|O 100%
20110607|FFGO|24000000|0|24000000|O 100%
20110608|FFGO|173800|0|173800|O 100%
20110609|FFGO|2500000|0|2500000|O 100%
20110610|FFGO|83100|0|83100|O 100%
20110614|FFGO|1500000|0|1500000|O 100%
20110615|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110616|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20110617|FFGO|1105223|0|1355223|O 81.5%
20110621|FFGO|423000|0|423000|O 100%
20110623|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110624|FFGO|3401333|0|3401333|O 100%
20110629|FFGO|8619200|0|8619200|O 100%
20110630|FFGO|200400|0|200400|O 100%
July 2011
20110701|FFGO|5497995|0|5497995|O 100%
20110706|FFGO|400400|0|700400|O 57%
20110711|FFGO|500000|0|1400000|O 35%
20110714|FFGO|1102699|0|1102699|O 100%
20110715|FFGO|300100|0|400100|O 75%
20110718|FFGO|10850000|0|10850000|O 100%
20110719|FFGO|74000000|0|74000000|O 100%
20110720|FFGO|54100000|0|54100000|O 100%
20110722|FFGO|30000000|0|30000000|O 100%
20110725|FFGO|10346500|0|10346500|O 100%
20110727|FFGO|2400100|0|3400100|O 70.5%
August 2011
20110801|FFGO|8900000|0|8900000|O 100%
20110803|FFGO|5550000|0|5550000|O 100%
20110804|FFGO|7000100|0|10325100|O 67%
20110805|FFGO|5573333|0|5723333|O 100%
20110808|FFGO|405800|0|405800|O 100%
20110809|FFGO|3400000|0|3500000|O 97.1%
20110811|FFGO|3279000|0|3279000|O 100%
20110812|FFGO|100100|0|100100|O 100%
20110815|FFGO|14500000|0|14500000|O 100%
20110816|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20110817|FFGO|10490000|0|10490000|O 100%
20110818|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20110822|FFGO|467000|0|467000|O 100%
20110823|FFGO|55633600|0|55633600|O 100%
20110824|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20110825|FFGO|750000|0|750000|O 100%
20110829|FFGO|1500000|0|1500000|O 100%
20110831|FFGO|45327062|0|61885560|O 73.2%
September 2011
20110901|FFGO| 777000|0| 832000|O 93.3%
20110902|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20110908|FFGO|1920000|0|1920000|O 100%
20110909|FFGO|2500000|0|2500000|O 100%
20110913|FFGO|5000000|0|5299100|O 94.3%
20110914|FFGO|3000000|0|3000000|O 100%
20110923|FFGO|2000000|0|2320000|O 86.2%
20110928|FFGO|1000600|0|1125600|O 88.8%
Month totals: 20,197,600/20,996,700 96.1%
October 2011
20111003|FFGO|500000|0|500000|O 100%
20111004|FFGO|2000000|0|2000000|O 100%
20111005|FFGO|310000|0|590000|O 52.5%
20111006|FFGO|600000|0|1600000|O 37.5%
20111010|FFGO|100000|0|100000|O 100%
20111012|FFGO|2010000|0|2390000|O 84.1%
20111013|FFGO|2999999|0|2999999|O 100%
20111014|FFGO|4000000|0|4000000|O 100%
20111018|FFGO|8000000|0|11000000|O 72.7%
20111019|FFGO|1000000|0|1000000|O 100%
20111026|FFGO|2150000|0|2150000|O 100%
Month totals: 23,659,999/28329,999 83.5%
FFGO YEAR TO DATE
JAN 110,228,197/ 135,899,376
FEB 603,499,999/ 665,528,957
MAR 42,086,299/ 47,619,537
APR 55,046,743/ 57,719,305
MAY 71,734,677/ 77,653,022
JUN 49,116,056/ 49,366,056
JLY 189,497,794/ 191,797,794
AUG 168,375,995/ 188,509,493
SEP 20,197,000/ 20,996,700
OCT 23,659,999/28,329,999
Year to date totals
1,333,442.759/ 1,453,420,239 91.7% SHORT VOLUME for shares sold in 2011
regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20110324.txt
Total short volume since FINRA began publishing records in Nov. 2010:
1,774,250,838 short shares sold out of total volume of 2,018,993,454 or 87.9% of all shares sold were sold short!
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
AlanC
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:29:27 AM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203635
Post # of 203660
So you know the end result? My end result is receiving a very large dividend that is going to cost those who sold billions of non existant shares billions of dollars.
1 million shares cost $100.00 will return $3,449.00
10 million shres cost $1000.00 will return $34,449.00
100 million shares cost $10,000.00 will return $3,449,000.00
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
paunch13
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:53:24 AM
Re: AlanC post# 203636
Post # of 203660
AlanC
That will be the greatest day in the history of the free market and if several of them go to prison it will be even greater that that. and we aree getting closer and closer to receiving our long waited for divis
John
lucvuillermoz
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:18:21 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203630
Post # of 203660
as said varmit, are we going to see ffgo stock reopen one day and at which price ?
if sloane investment control 23.59 pourcent ron lowenthal could be president
Vianna
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:19:07 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203637
Post # of 203660
Thanks for confirming this is NOT OVER! To think you "know how this will end" means...you know it has NOT ended!
Great point, Hunter!
GO FFGO!!
V
lucvuillermoz
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:36:10 PM
Re: Vianna post# 203640
Post # of 203660
my bank send me back my 1 billion ffgo and my 1 billion usxp
lucvuillermoz
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:46:09 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203644
Post # of 203660
sloane investment drived by ron lowenthal has 23.59 pourcent of actual float ffgo
that s fact
varmit
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:43:52 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203660
here is some evidence for those who have not seen it of subco nmgl and so on...
https://www.etrade.wallst.com/v1/stocks/news/search_results.asp?symbol=nmgl&rsO=new
i wax my case varmit has spoken
diamondguru-one
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:55:26 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203635
Post # of 203660
No looooooose here....just a HAPPY TRUE "FFGO" SHAREHOLDER !!
Rocket Man
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:03:54 PM
Re: Vianna post# 31260
Post # of 31278
Very interesting in deed.. $.004 was not only one trade.. What a mix.
http://investorpoint.com/stock/HGLC-Hunt+Gold+Corporation/market-makers-level2/
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
next week(s) is here
Who's Next!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQBLi5mukm
Shortmans Anthem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E
Offline
Fortress Financial Group (fka FFGO)
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AlanC
Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:57:29 PM
Re: MBJS post# 203672
Post # of 203784
How Cruise Lines Fill All Those Unsold Cruise Cabins
Why Snoring Can Kill - and How to Stop ItNew Technology Lets You Learn a Language in as Little as 10 DaysThe Secret to Paying No Interest on Your Credit Card BalanceHow to Boost Your Testosterone Safely and QuicklyHow New iPads are Selling for Under $40lol Good catch and while I don't own that many I know several folks that own multiples of that amount. I will be happy when we all get our dividends. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
varmit
Friday, July 27, 2012 3:40:14 AM
Re: headcounselor post# 203674
Post # of 203785
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the mms will be paying us for there nss short positions as a penalty for illegal activity ,
if they decide not to ,,,,, then they will be forced 2 pay 4.60 for each share they have not covered .... thus the saying
5t w/d or 5 trillion authorized shares at western diversified
most of which are short ,,, naked short ,,,,
varmit
Friday, July 27, 2012 3:43:32 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203677
Post # of 203785
outragous !!!ffgo did not run away with our money ,,, we still have our shares worth over a buck even after the divvy is issued ,,,
they dont ever get our shares unless we sell for a buck a share ;;0;0;0;0;0;00;![]()
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WAIT MUCH LONGER AND WE WILL START THE 4.60 PER SHARE CLUB
AlanC
Friday, July 27, 2012 9:07:21 AM
Re: AlanC post# 201720
Post # of 203785
Did you know FFGO management has been fighting the naked shorting of its stock for almost 7 years? Did you know that the stock was billions short back in 2006? Did you know that management tried hard to force those short to cover and regulators failed to enforce existing rules and regulations and allowed the naked shorters to continue to sell more non existant shares into the markets? Did you know management used every method available to them to try and thwart the attacks including multiple dividends and even reverse splitting the stock and still the naked shorters continued to sell non existant shares trying to drive FFGO into bankruptcy? Thanks management for being such warriors! Thanks for developing a plan that will insure that your shareholders are compensated for the suffering endured at the hands of the criminal naked shorters. Thanks for your courage and your caring.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Thanks to BullFinch for this DD:
Great West Gold, Inc. Continues
To Monitor Short Selling
NEW YORK, May 8, 2006 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) confirms that BUYINS.NET, www.buyins.net, continues its coverage of Great West Gold, Inc. (OTCBB: GWGOE) after releasing the latest short sale data through May 2006. From January 2005 to May 2006 approximately 28.73 billion total aggregate shares of GWGOE have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $22.7 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 2.21 billion shares. The GWGOE SqueezeTrigger price of $0.00079 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in GWGO. A short squeeze started when shares of GWGOE closed above $0.00079. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://www.buyins.net/.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com
http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/080506_GWG_PR_Buyins_Report.pdf
Great West Gold, Inc. – Squeeze Trigger Report
NEW YORK, NY, February 21, 2006, Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB: GWGO) announced on February 16, that www.buyins.net, is initiating coverage of Great West Gold, Inc. (OTCBB: GWGO) after releasing the latest short sale data through February 2006. From January 2005 to February 2006 approximately 20.59 billion total aggregate shares of GWGO have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $12.35 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 1.59 billion shares. The GWGO SqueezeTrigger price of $0.0006 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in GWGO. A short squeeze is expected to begin when shares of GWGO close above $0.0006. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://buyins.net/squeezetrigger.pdf.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com
http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/210206_GWG_PR_Squeeze_Trigger_Report.pdf
Great West Gold, Inc. –
Share Price And Trading Activity
NEW YORK, NY, February 17, 2006, Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB: GWGO) confirms that it has noted that its share price traded at a new low yesterday with in excess of 1 billion shares being traded on that day.
The Company has requested an urgent “Squeeze Trigger” Report from www.buyins.net in respect of the Company’s trading including yesterday and upon receipt of this report, it will be published by the Company.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com
http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/170206_GWG_PR_Trading_Activity.pdf
Great West Gold, Inc. – Update On Naked Short Selling
Great West Gold (“GWGO”) Report
NEW YORK, December 27, 2005 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) announced on November 8, 2005 that Great West Gold, Inc. has now subscribed to a service that will “expose” all naked short positions in its stock on a monthly basis. The Company undertook to publish this list on its web site and issue a Press Release disclosing full details contained in that monthly report. Great West Gold, Inc. is now determined to attack those who are involved in the illegal naked short selling of its stock.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com
http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/271205_GWG_PR_Update_on_Short_Selling.pdf
Great West Gold, Inc. – UPDATE ON NAKED SHORT NEW YORK, November 9, 2005 – Great West Gold, Inc. (OTC BB:GWGO) announced on November 8, 2005 that Great West Gold, Inc. has now subscribed to a service that will “expose” all naked short positions in its stock on a monthly basis. The Company undertook to publish this list on its web site and issue a Press Release disclosing full details contained in that monthly report. Great West Gold, Inc. is now determined to attack those who are involved in the illegal naked short selling of its stock.
Press Release
Great West Gold, Inc. Email:investor@greatwestgold.com
http://www.greatwestgold.com/pdfs/091105_GWG_PR_Update_on_Short_Selling.pdf
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
AlanC
Friday, July 27, 2012 9:14:33 AM
Re: AlanC post# 203684
Post # of 203785
Mr. Bezzano devised a brilliant plan to protect company assets and reward company shareholders. Well done Mr. B! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-
AlanC
Friday, July 27, 2012 9:58:42 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203687
Post # of 203785
No doubt the SEC had mercy for the shortman as everyone knew there were no real shares to be had and folks like me kept accumulating. My last buy was for 2 million shares which cost $210. including commission but which will return on divdend payments only a minimum of $6,898.00! That is one sweet ROI!
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Dhoraji
Friday, July 27, 2012 12:00:57 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203692
Post # of 203785
I feel very sorry for SHORTY and their helpers!!!!
Because sooner or later truth will TRIUMPH!!!!!!!!
paunch13
Friday, July 27, 2012 12:08:11 PM
Re: Dhoraji post# 203694
Post # of 203785
Dhoraji
You are so very correct , all it will take now is a little more time and as soon as the regulaters get a few more balls and starts to do their job there will be a lot more people start to receive their prison time and then the share holders will begin to play on an even playing field
John
Dhoraji
Friday, July 27, 2012 9:07:05 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203703
Post # of 203785
In my opinion, FINRA and SEC are fully aware of NSS in FFGO, and therefore,
they avoided short squeeze by revoking FFGO. Now they are blocking dividend
distribution because of same fear that NSS in FFGO will be exposed, which
will damage their reputation beyond any repair!!!
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:18:35 AM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203698
Post # of 203785
How do you know? Check with FINRA and SEC.
They are scare to death to open up this can of
warms, namely NSS in FFGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:28:57 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203699
Post # of 203785
No need to prove any thing. Go and check with
FINRA and SEC. They are so scared that they
don't want to discuss NSS mess in FFGO.
Whenever I tried, they avoided straight answer.
Rest, you figure it out.
SevenTenEleven
Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:00:06 AM
Re: None
Post # of 203785
FFGO - Dividend coming!
Thanks for confirming!
Tic Toc
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:10:34 AM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203713
Post # of 203785
Dividend distribution can open up NSS mess in FFGO.
All illegal shares also qualify for dividend. Therefore,
it is quite possible that company has asked permission,
prior to filling the request.
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:41:42 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203718
Post # of 203785
How do you know, what is going on between FINRA,SEC and company,
behind closed doors?
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:11:07 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203725
Post # of 203785
Please provide some verifiable facts and or communications to back up that
you have communicated with FINRA or SEC. They are stating that matter
under investigation can not be discussed with public.
NSS in FFGO can not disappear, it stays within the system until some one
remove them from system by buying them back or company declares bankruptcy.
Both options are not there any more. No matter how you look at it,
NSS in FFGO is a FACT!!!!
SevenTenEleven
Saturday, July 28, 2012 3:27:55 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203785
FFGO - Of course the SEC is still involved. So is the DOJ, DHS, IRS, FBI, etc.
The regulators protecting the naked short sellers and counterfeiting electronic equity creators have been protecting their own for far too long. The SEC, FINRA, the Federal Reserve, and maybe even the US Treasury Department are being watched very closely.
Those individuals within those regulatory agencies, who have a "pattern", will be revealed soon enough.
FFGO is still positioned to follow through with the distribution of the Preferred A's & B's.
All one has to do is contact the Wyoming SOS and/or FINRA to confirm.
The company warned of claims to the contrary. In fact, not one piece of written documentation has been provided to support claims that the dividend process was cancelled or was never meant to conclude.
Brokers have been trying very desperately to get shareholders to take complete losses on their investments in FFGO. The IRS may consider a case of attempted tax fraud if those illegal profits from counterfeiting electronic equity is being realized by off-shore corporations and/or LLC's.
Since the company has stated that there is no "proof" of a large naked short position, based upon the non-reporting of short interest to FINRA, those who are naked short on billions of shares, will have to suck up the losses, or face criminal prosecution for a number of securities violations.
RICO charges may still be in play for brokers, market makers, and bankers colluding to disguise all of the illegal electronic book markers in retail accounts.
Nice to be on the planned receiving end of a $0.003449, or more, CASH distribution of assets.
Good Luck!
bobbybdb
Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:36:05 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203741
Post # of 203785
Tom, has Lumb ever been in the mining business, has he actually developed a mining claim, or has he just purchased shares(investments) in mining claims?
Thanks.
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:56:20 PM
Re: underdog150 post# 203745
Post # of 203785
I talked to them on different occasions. Their standard reply is
matter under investigation, can not be discussed with public.
They have no guts to put any thing in writing. You can check
out yourself and will get standard reply.
NSS in FFGO is a FACT. Can not go away, as I explained
in my previous post.
SevenTenEleven
Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:34:24 PM
Re: underdog150 post# 203751
Post # of 203785
FFGO - Are market makers, brokers, and bankers guilty of RICO for conspiring to hide illegal naked short selling, and counterfeit electronic equity markers, in retail traders' accounts?
Matter under investigation! FACT!
Good Luck!
SevenTenEleven
Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:34:49 PM
Re: underdog150 post# 203751
Post # of 203785
FFGO - Are the brokers, market makers, and bankers guilty of tax evasion by moving profits from naked short selling and creating counterfeit electronic equity off-shore to tax havens?
Matter under investigation! FACT!
Good Luck!
Chas56789
Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:50:20 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203752
Post # of 203785
SevenTenEleven- It is absolutely RICO when you add the DTCC into the mix with Bankers and Brokers ! It is only through collusion that they were able to commit the crime of Naked Shorting against the investing public.
jmho
Chas56789
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:17:05 PM
Re: underdog150 post# 203751
Post # of 203785
Vianna's list fake? I don't think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least my 225,000,000.FFGO shares are real.
paunch13
Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49:11 PM
Re: Dhoraji post# 203755
Post # of 203785
Dhoraji
All of the shares that were listed by the shareholders are owned by the share hoders but most all of the ones listed are counterfit and were sold naked short, there is no way of knowing how many shares are naked but a good guess is somewhere between one and four trillion
John
AlanC
Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:52:02 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203756
Post # of 203785
FFGO was attacked by abusive short sellers in much the same way this company was. Nice to know that good outcomes can be acheived.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
BofA, Goldman, Others Settle Taser Short-Selling Suit
New York (June 20, 2011) -- Shareholders of Taser International Inc. struck a
settlement in Georgia on Monday with a host of Wall Street firms that they alleged
conspired to short-sell the weapons producer's stock and flood the market with
counterfeit shares.
The deal will end the investors' suit against Bank of America Securities LLC, Bear
Stearns Securities Corp., Credit Suisse USA Inc., Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.,
Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Merrill Lynch, Pierce Fenner & Smith Inc., Morgan
Stanley & Co. Inc. and UBS Securities LLC. Details on the settlement have not been
released.
"The plaintiffs are happy to have the case resolved," said plaintiffs attorney Steven J.
Rosenwasser of Bondurant Mixson & Elmore LLP.
The plaintiffs filed their suit in Georgia state court in 2008, accusing the financial
firms of violating the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act. The case
was removed to federal court in September.
The suit claims the firms' short selling caused the sale of millions of counterfeit Taser
shares. Short selling takes place when investors borrow stock to sell — hoping it will
decline in value so they can return it to brokers at the lower price and keep the
difference.
“These are not isolated incidents: we believe the trading data evidences an ongoing
and coordinated effort to violate securities and other laws,” plaintiffs lawyer Wes
Christian of Christian Smith & Jewell LLP said in a statement announcing the
lawsuit.
Illegal naked short selling is when investors put up IOUs they can't honor and may
have no intention of honoring. The practice can produce counterfeit shares,
according to the complaint, because short sellers effectively introduce additional
shares into the market.
“Although in 2005 Taser had authorized and issued only approximately 60 million
shares of common stock, more than 80 million votes were cast at the company's
annual meeting,” the plaintiffs' law firms said.
According to the complaint, the defendant companies diluted Taser stock and
caused its price to dip. They allegedly concealed their conduct by submitting
misleading reports and falsely marking short sales as long positions.
Attorneys for the defendants did not immediately return calls seeking comment on
the settlement Monday.
The defendants are represented by Richard H. Sinkfield of Rogers & Hardin LLP.
The plaintiffs are represented by Steven J. Rosenwasser, John E. Floyd, Nicole G.
Iannarone and Elizabeth G. Eager of Bondurant Mixson & Elmore LLP, and Wes
Christian of Christian Smith & Jewell LLP.
The case is Taser International Inc. et al. v. Morgan Stanley & Co. et al., case
number 1:10-cv-03108, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia.
http://www.law360.com/securities/articles/252507/bofa-goldman-others-settle-tasershort-
selling-suit
SevenTenEleven
Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:17:51 PM
Re: Dhoraji post# 203755
Post # of 203785
FFGO - My shares are on the list and very much real! Well at least the markers in my account say they are. But we all know that those electronic markers are very likely counterfeit.
What counter parties are responsible for those illegal naked short markers? And who at the DTCC, FINRA, and the SEC are assisting the criminal activity?
Those fixing the global interest rates never thought that they would get caught, arrested, and possibly imprisoned.
Those collaborating to naked short sell at astounding levels, and those helping to conceal the counterfeiting also believe that they will never be caught, arrested, and imprisoned.
The brokers, market makers, and bankers know that their days of stealing from investors are numbered.
In FFGO, those days are numbered to the tune of 200B counterfeit shares, or more.
Tic Toc
Colorado5
Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:56:32 AM
Re: paunch13 post# 203756
Post # of 203785
Paunch, shorties downfall was sealed when FFGO put out this release in 2009. FFGo sure knew how and when to set the trap!!
""FORTRESS FINANCIAL GROUP, INC. (FFGO.PK) (“Fortress”)
Dear Stockholder,
We have your details on our database as a stockholder of Fortress Financial Group, Inc. and through E Mails sent by yourself to Fortress. Fortress is a Company quoted on the OTC Pink Sheets Market under the Trading Symbol : FFGO.PK.
This Very Exciting Communication to you serves to advise you, as follows:
• Fortress is filing a Form 8-K within days with the S.E.C. The purpose of the Filing is to update our stockholders as to the status of the Company at this time and to address each and every issue which Fortress believes is of relevance to our stockholders.
• Fortress has appointed a new Transfer Agent as of November 13, 2009.
• The principal Assets in Fortress remain our significant interests in both the “Bouse” and the “South Copperstone” Gold Properties.
• DO the last remaining Stock Dividends owed to or Stockholders (on record in 2005) need to be resolved? YOU BET THEY DO! The sale of the Company’s interests in the “Bouse” and the “South Copperstone” Gold Mining Interests will make that happen. The Company declared FIVE Stock Dividends, and THREE Stock Dividends were settled to our Stockholders already. This company WILL DELIVER UPON ITS UNDERTAKINGS. The remaining stock Dividends are going to be settled.
• Your Company’s Management is acutely aware that the price of Gold continues to reach new highs, currently at US$1,151/oz. It reached a new all time high this week at US$1,152.43 /oz.
• Did we appoint an Investor Relations Firm to assist you? YES, we did! Full details will be provided to you next week. Any comments, questions or suggestions that you send to us will be answered next week by our dedicated Team, appointed to assist you in maximizing your investment in FORTRESS FINANCIAL GROUP, INC. AND THE CURRENT GOLD RUSH!
• WE HAVE A LESS THAN DESIRABLE TRACK RECORD IN OUR STOCKHOLDER COMMUNICATIONS………………FORGET ALL OF THAT NOW, as we are now realizing our substantial Assets for our stockholders.
FACT: Fortress remains HUGELY undervalued at its current price of US$0.0002 per share! There has been NO BID on this company for months. This negativity has now ENDED, and we are hopeful that trading of Stock will very shortly start to reflect a more realistic price per share, that being way higher than its current price!
Fortress traded an ASTRONOMICAL number of shares this week, with a large percentage trading at a price of US$.0003 per share, for a total trading volume in the past TWO days, of 2.5 BILLION shares! We believe there is much more room for growth in both of these categories. (Price per share, as well as volume.)
Management Comments:
THIS COMPANY AND ITS STOCKHOLDERS HAVE BEEN HANDED A WINDFALL (THANKS TO THE “FRENZIED” SCRAMBLE FOR QUALITY GOLD ASSETS), DESPITE THE HUGE NEGATIVITY TOWARDS YOUR COMPANY, ITS RIDICULOUS LOW STOCK PRICE IS NO LONGER APPLICABLE, AS THE TIME TO CASH IN ON THIS BOOM IS NOW.
*WE HAVE HELD ONTO OUR GOLD ASSETS, DESPITE EVER-INCREASING MARKETWIDE INTEREST.
*WE ARE CAPITALIZING UPON OUR HUGE ASSET BASE IN GOLD INTERESTS. IT IS NOW TIME FOR DECISIVE AND IMMEDIATE ACTION.
*YOUR COMPANY’S MANAGEMENT IS “SEIZING THE MOMENT”. WE ARE PLEDGING TO SELL YOUR COMPANY’S GOLD ASSETS AND WE WILL REWARD OUR STOCKHOLDERS THROUGH THESE DISPOSALS, IN FULL MEASURE.
This is our Pledge to you:
This Company’s Management is now GOING TO DISPOSE of the Company’s interests in its Gold assets thereby realizing a very substantial “windfall” for our stockholders……………..
ANY DEAL CONCLUDED BY YOUR COMPANY’S MANAGEMENT WILL BE AT A PRICE PER SHARE THAT WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN YOUR COMPANY’S STOCK HAS TRADED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
OUR NEW CORPORATE MANTRA SHALL BE: “WHAT IS IN THE PAST, REMAINS IN THE PAST. OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO EXTRACT IMMEDIATE VALUE FOR OUR STOCKHOLDERS AND TO CAPITALIZE ON YOUR COMPANY’S GOLD ASSETS. THE GOLD RUSH IS UPON US, AND WE SHALL NOT FAIL YOU.”
We have established a new Investor “Hotline”; that telephone number being: (954) 623-7409. As from next week onward, you will have access to any answers or details that you may require!
AlanC
Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:15:25 AM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203759
Post # of 203785
TomSawyer: I ask you to think about where the claims that Mr. Lumb hates shareholders originated? Was it a hit piece? Was the piece written for a purpose?
Next I ask you to think about all the other men connected to FFGO and take a look at their educations and other credentials?
Then I ask you to think about whether or not these men would commit crimes, put their reputations and good names at risk?
You have read several pieces about those charged with naked shorting posted here and in most instances it has been Wall Street firms that have been found guilty. Finally I ask you to ask yourself who is most likely to have naked shorted FFGO. If you still think it is Mr. Lumb I ask you why after 7 years no charges against him or any other connected member has been made by US regulators?
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Dhoraji
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:20:31 AM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203759
Post # of 203785
Do you have any proof that Lumb is behind NSS in FFGO?
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:40:59 AM
Re: None
Post # of 203785
The Bouse & S Copperstone are very valuable.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Dhoraji
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:50:30 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203758
Post # of 203785
If you remember, I have already written a letter to TD Waterhouse
that if you can't issue a certificate, please confirm in writing that
these shares are issued by FFGO and are real. Not AIR SHARES
or counterfeit issued by some criminals. So far I have not received
their formal reply. But they acknowledged and said that they are
FORMULATING a response to my request. I am sure that their
Lawyers are involved in confirming that these shares are real.
If we all long write letters to our respective BROKERS, it will
create a havoc. Because it is not easy for BROKERS to confirm
in writing that these shares are real. If they confirm, it will be
very good for us for future fight. At least we can prove in court
that according to our BROKERS, they are real.
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:56:32 AM
Re: Dhoraji post# 203772
Post # of 203785
If they claim that the shares are borrow, bought, and/or backed up, and they are not, they will be committing securities fraud. They know it, but can't do much about it.
The counter-parties responsible for the counterfeit electronic equity markers continue to realize that they are on the hook for tens of millions worth of liability.
paunch13
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:57:42 AM
Re: Dhoraji post# 203772
Post # of 203785
Dhoraji
I have called my broker , Scottrade several times and ask if my shares were real and they said each time yes so I guess my next request wil be for them to put it in writing and send it to me and I will report to this board what their answer is
John
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:05:22 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203770
Post # of 203785
The bust-out attempts of FFGO have failed, leaving billions and billions of counterfeit electronic equity in the system.
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:09:58 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203777
Post # of 203785
That all needs to be taken care of and it will, IMO. I'll be watching very close from here on out. Filings per PR are coming soon!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Dhoraji
Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:15:05 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203777
Post # of 203786
The beauty is, no one can remove those AIR SHARES from SYSTEM,
and therefore, NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT is on the way. SHORTY
likes it or not!!!!!!
Dhoraji
Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:25:37 AM
Re: medchal post# 203780
Post # of 203786
Revocation does not remove NSS from SYSTEM or from my account.
My account still shows 225,000,000 FFGO.
Dhoraji
Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:04:03 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203783
Post # of 203786
You will automatically know the result.
Investigation already started long ago.
You know our Government Agencies
are very slow, but effective!!!!
bobbybdb
Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:47:31 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203747
Post # of 203786
Tom if you have no idea, why then are you posting this accusing Lumb of a scam:
TomSawyer
Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:00:01 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203738
Post # of 203785
"The SEC should go after any illegal short / NSS because that could be LUMB himself.
HOWEVER, let's not forget the company execs who told us there is gold in the ground, yet couldn't sell the gold when it was low, climbing, or worse yet... during HIGH GOLD PEAK PRICES. How obvious of a scam was that! They should be included too for participating in the scam.
Remember I spoke with FINRA, and a couple of MMs who shorted FFGO"
Why would a Shareholder in a mining claim be accused of perpetrating a SCAM as you seem to think
If you were to hold shares in a mining claim, would that indicate that you are responsable for generating a "scam"? Or is that only when the name is Lumb??
"the company execs who told us there is gold in the ground, yet couldn't sell the gold when it was low, climbing, or worse yet... during HIGH GOLD PEAK PRICES. How obvious of a scam was that! They should be included too for "
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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wrenchman
Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:46:05 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203723
Post # of 203724
How bout between Knight and the (SEC or Finra)tell your employer to hurry and pay us off already we are not writing our shares off and thats it it!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
varmit
Friday, July 27, 2012 3:40:14 AM
Re: headcounselor post# 203674
Post # of 203682
COUSELOTit is supposed 2 be
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the mms will be paying us for there nss short positions as a penalty for illegal activity ,
if they decide not to ,,,,, then they will be forced 2 pay 4.60 for each share they have not covered .... thus the saying
5t w/d or 5 trillion authorized shares at western diversified
most of which are short ,,, naked short ,,,,
varmit
Friday, July 27, 2012 3:43:32 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203677
Post # of 203682
outragous !!!ffgo did not run away with our money ,,, we still have our shares worth over a buck even after the divvy is issued ,,,
they dont ever get our shares unless we sell for a buck a share ;;0;0;0;0;0;00;![]()
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WAIT MUCH LONGER AND WE WILL START THE 4.60 PER SHARE CLUB
diamondguru-one
Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:12:06 PM
Re: Dhoraji post# 203720
Post # of 203721
IMHO there is a lot of screaming and yelling going back and forth with FINRA,SEC ..... that's why the crew is still out in full force to sway the unknown shareholders to right off their shares....
3400% ROI ???
10,000,000 ounces of GOLD ????
tic toc I'll wait patently !!!
Dhoraji
Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:11:07 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203725
Post # of 203735
Please provide some verifiable facts and or communications to back up that
you have communicated with FINRA or SEC. They are stating that matter
under investigation can not be discussed with public.
NSS in FFGO can not disappear, it stays within the system until some one
remove them from system by buying them back or company declares bankruptcy.
Both options are not there any more. No matter how you look at it,
NSS in FFGO is a FACT!!!!
stoprun
In reply to: puppydotcom who wrote msg# 203730 Date:7/28/2012 2:38:04 PM
Post #203734 of 203737
You maybe here telling us that, but it is my opinion you have other reasons for being here, like 220 billion other reasons or more. I would suggest you might want to join Varmit's Buck-A-Share club, the list is growing. Don't you always feel better knowing, that pay-day is not far off and what a Pay-Day it will be.
Wow!!!!!! Good Luck!!!!!!
bobbybdb
Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:47:31 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203747
Post # of 203786
Tom if you have no idea, why then are you posting this accusing Lumb of a scam:
TomSawyer
Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:00:01 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203738
Post # of 203785
"The SEC should go after any illegal short / NSS because that could be LUMB himself.
HOWEVER, let's not forget the company execs who told us there is gold in the ground, yet couldn't sell the gold when it was low, climbing, or worse yet... during HIGH GOLD PEAK PRICES. How obvious of a scam was that! They should be included too for participating in the scam.
Remember I spoke with FINRA, and a couple of MMs who shorted FFGO"
Why would a Shareholder in a mining claim be accused of perpetrating a SCAM as you seem to think
If you were to hold shares in a mining claim, would that indicate that you are responsable for generating a "scam"? Or is that only when the name is Lumb??
"the company execs who told us there is gold in the ground, yet couldn't sell the gold when it was low, climbing, or worse yet... during HIGH GOLD PEAK PRICES. How obvious of a scam was that! They should be included too for "
diamondguru-one
Saturday, July 28, 2012 1:28:38 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203728
Post # of 203729
your still here....3400% ROI....10,000,000 ounces of GOLD!!
I'm glad we cleared that up
bobbybdb
Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:05:24 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203760
Post # of 203820
Hunter, Please tell me just how did he do that?
I didn't see any S-4's filed or reverse splits.
They issued physical FFGO shares through the TA to brokers in turn the brokers took those shares, stuck them in their accounts, and sold us electronic promissory notes, you know, like the FED does with our money.
The FED, keeps printing so called money, brokers keep issuing electronic promissory notes, over and over using the same issued shares !!
Dhoraji
Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:08:00 PM
Re: medchal post# 203785
Post # of 203820
It has every thing to do with NSS, because my shares are shorted.
(brokers not confirming that they are real). So according to you, if
they are shorted, they should disappear from my account, when FFGO
was revoked.
bobbybdb
Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:35:05 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203790
Post # of 203820
Tom, It has been an on going problem that some folks are confused of just what FFGO owned, and what they were selling.
FFGO were only stock holders in a mining company, nothing more nothing less, they sold their percentages of those shares, I can see no where that selling shares as FFGO did, could be grounds for being labeled as a scam by anyone!
Seems to me that FFGO has wound up the company,in doing so has made arrangements for the FFGO shareholders to receive those assets through the sale contract with NMGL. The issuing of the NMGL preferred A's & B's to WD by NMGL, which is payment in "full" from NMGL for FFGO shares.
Now we wait for either a 100% actuation of the remaining shares, or NMGL agrees to a waiver of that contractual requirement.
AlanC
Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:35:41 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203792
Post # of 203820
Bradenton, Florida according to this. Waiting for a roundup of bad guys? http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Bradenton/peter-j-bezzano/27853405.aspx
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
AlanC
Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:44:00 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203800
Post # of 203820
That would put him beyond reach of anyone who was short I guess wouldn't it. Smart move while waiting for a roundup of bad guys.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
bobbybdb
Sunday, July 29, 2012 3:12:11 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203795
Post # of 203820
"Deal was never completed (i.e.: A-H list completes deal) Peter was paid and ran for the hills. Do you know where the guy who has your shares is today???? ( Peter B. ) Do you?"
You see the problem is I never knew where my shares were, or are, from the time of purchase.
The broker took all shares and put them in his account, to do what he wants with i.e. loan, sell, use as collateral, or whatever.
He took my money, took my shares, and gave me a marker in my account that guarantees that they will be credit for at market value, so now with a PR stating that a dividend has been declared, and is now in play, the market value is whatever the winding down asset dividend is.
A dividend, that must be forwarded to shareholders by way of their broker accounts,
The brokers are the shareholders, we are the holders of their broker promissory notes.
Now if the brokers have more promissory notes in accounts than he has shares in his account, his fiduciary responsibility is to make them good by whatever means.
So yes, I DO KNOW where my broker promissory notes are, who knows where shares are or if there ever was any.
This is my last post allocated today.
diamondguru-one
In reply to: None Date:7/29/2012 4:06:02 PM
Post #203809 of 203809
funny how the crew spews FFGO is/WAS a scam....where are all the indictments ?? arrest warrants ?? PR's/news releases that the management team were crooks ???
I'll be waiting on all your PROOF of claim...ps after 3 years I haven't see or heard of such thing....and thanks again for all your support all these years naysayers....tic toc
3400% plus ROI !!!
10,000,000 ounces of GOLD !!!
Dhoraji
Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:54:56 PM
Re: TomSawyer post# 203808
Post # of 203820
Please correct me if I am wrong, but once you mentioned on this board that
if you do not get satisfactory answers from FINRA or SEC, you will go to
News media and eventually go to Obama Administration. Have you done any
of those? Or gave up in frustration? At least I have encouraged my American
friends to go to their respective Senators and or Congressmen, about inaction
of these two Government Agencies, which are extremely slow and allowing
Market Maker to get away with any thing, in the name of conducting orderly
market.
bobbybdb
Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:59:50 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203811
Post # of 203820
Hunter, Lumb sold me NOTHING, the "MARKET sold me my shares,(broker notes) gave me broker promissory notes for my money, same as everyone else.
Shares were issued to brokers long before any of us purchased.
They don't have an IPO every time we purchase shares, an IPO is the initial issuing of shares from any company, to brokers through the transfer agent to be exchanged or revalued by the market supply/demand, not by the issuer.
Once issued they take on a life of their own through brokers/Market makers, which has nothing further to do with the company trading.
Some seem to think that every time they purchase stock or invest in a company, that the money goes directly to the company, that is not true unless done through an IPO or S-4 approval.
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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AlanC
In reply to: bobbybdb who wrote msg# 203806 Date:7/29/2012 4:50:33 PM
Post #203812 of 203822
Odd how those who actually own shares are limited and those who don't have no limits. Ok puppy, this is a test, how long will it take you to remove this? Must be nice to have power. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
diamondguru-one
In reply to: AlanC who wrote msg# 203812 (Removed) Date:7/29/2012 5:12:03 PM
Post #203815 of 203822
right Alanc, selective postings....hmmm....still waiting on the proof / Indictments / news / SEC filings that FFGO was a SCAM....and still nothing !!!
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:19:24 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203818
Post # of 203826
HGLC could come back to life, imo.. Some one bought a nice amount of shares recently and some of the shares were as high as $.004. FFGO is revoked and will stay that way from the looks of things. Doesn't matter though.. NMGL is getting current from what I see in the news.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:31:02 PM
Re: bobbybdb post# 203819
Post # of 203826
Bobby, claims of dilution are often to mask the counterfeiting of electronic equity by market makers and with the help of retail brokers.
Billions upon billions of counterfeit electronic markers have been deposited in retail accounts for FFGO.
That is a FACT!
Distribution of the dividend is going to be very costly for those responsible for those counterfeit electronic equity markers.
Explains why the brokers are aggressive in their attempts to get shareholders to take write-offs.
Tic Toc
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:22:26 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203821
Post # of 203827
Pink Current coming for NMGL?
Wouldn't want to be short FFGO!
Denying one is short is denying the dividend will not happen.
Tic Toc
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:24:40 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203825
Post # of 203827
Current is what the PR says is coming.. FFGO has a huge naked short position we all know that..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:34:28 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203826
Post # of 203827
Huge naked short position resulting in billions and billions of counterfeit electronic equity markers in our accounts. We are reminded of the inventory problems daily.
Brokers are going to be stuck reporting the counter-parties to the illegal naked short positions in our accounts.
Matter not to shareholders. No matter how big the counterfeit electronic equity position is, we all get paid!
The counter-parties have no choice!
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:45:54 AM
Re: None
Post # of 7821
NMGL owns the lions share of RENS, the Bouse & S Copperstone are very valuable. The Oatman has taings worth a small fortune. Filings per PR are coming. Is this the week it comes together?
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
AlanC
Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:49:47 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 7820
Post # of 7821
Bting it on, I am so looking forward to frying the shortman!
Go NMGL!!!
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:52:54 AM
Re: AlanC post# 3270
Post # of 3273
Let's see if things heat up around here. NMGL & GNCP are to see some filings per PR soon! Let's hope shorty has a day of reckoning!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
AlanC
Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:03:26 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 3271
Post # of 3273
Amen to that! The shortman has been in control far too long!
Go RENS!!!
Rocket Man
Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:33:01 PM
Re: AlanC post# 3272
Post # of 3273
Shortman needs a good kickin to the curb, agreed!
5T WD haha
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varmit
Monday, July 30, 2012 2:53:04 AM
Re: Nitwit post# 203832
Post # of 203892
ffgo revoked ?????? your kidding me ????? when ????? what will this do to our buck a share club ????
lets raise it to $4.60 exactly where 7 and i think it was trading when the nss began ,,,, thats the amount they will have to pay per share when their scheme is exposed from the divy announcement when 200 billion shares that dont exist are cashed in for divy !!!! its gonna hurt real bad for those who are going to visit robert and bernie maidoff with our money ,,,,,,,
LAMBSHIFT
Monday, July 30, 2012 5:07:38 AM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203834
Post # of 203892
I think too that HGLC(and FFGO) will come to life - more sooner than later. gone to where?? the properties can´t disappear from earth.
at the beginning of 09 the company had announced a restructuring.
several of the HGLC properties had come from the McIntyreBauman family.until now they haven´t offered any of these properties again.
these people are FFGO shareholders too.
I think interesting times will begin, if the hints in the last update of GNCC are realized.
SevenTenEleven
Monday, July 30, 2012 9:08:32 AM
Re: medchal post# 203838
Post # of 203892
FFGO - Just because fellow journalists aren't routinely using the term counterfeit electronic equity, doesn't mean that naked short selling is less of a crime than the counterfeiting of electronic equity markers.
This reminds me of a fish that many scientists and paleontologists believed was extinct. The Coelacanth. Only fossil records existed until one was caught, much like the naked short sellers guilty of RICO will be caught for counterfeiting electronic equity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth
FFGO will cost the counterfeiting and colluding criminals tens of millions of dividend dollars.
Good Luck!
LAMBSHIFT
Monday, July 30, 2012 10:03:04 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203839
Post # of 203892
I think it´s not important to us, if the electronic markers in our accounts result from a legal or from an illegal activity. of course nobody can recognize,which sort of marker he has in his account.for FFGO shareholders is only of importance that in the case of payment of the divid. or so all markers in our accounts are eligible to get the payment. if people have sold us counterfeit stocks, they will have to pay. main thing: they pay.
varmit
Monday, July 30, 2012 8:38:48 PM
Re: wav_ryder post# 203861
Post # of 203892
still laughing !!!! cheap played out mines ???? ha ha
yah right . bouse has over 10 million ounces in the ore !!!! ..no ,matter what some may say ??? you should offer nmgl ten grand for a cheap lease at bouse ????? they would maybe give you an hour to extract as much gold as u could !!! ha ha still laughing ........ ![]()
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paunch13
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:03:49 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203892
I just got off the phone with Scottrade asking whether the FFGO shares that I bought through Scottrade were real or counterfit and she said that since they were bought through scottrade they should be real but there is no way of proving that . She did know that the divis were a cash deal and said as soon as all of this is cleared up they would be able to give out the divis and that the money would go directly into our accounts. Again, she said that there is no way of proving that the shares in my account are real but they should be
John
AlanC
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:23:43 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203873
Post # of 203892
Thanks for sharing John, sounds like you spoke to an honest woman! Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
varmit
In reply to: Hunter6110 who wrote msg# 203868 Date:7/31/2012 4:09:01 PM
Post #203877 of 203890
I am basing my valuation on bouse and s.c on dr colistons report . he is a dr. you are a hunter , who knows more ??????
plus american bonanza 1/4/mile away is reporting pay dirt or should i say gold dirt !!!!
so based on those 2 factual /worthy of trusting facts are facts , over 10 million ounces of gold in each area ,
that puts those claims valued at over 6 billion each . remember that searchlight and bauman own 70 % of those claims until the cash sale is closed .
then subco/nmgl/gncc /rens will own the hole kit and kabootle .
now go back to hunting where u belong
SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:11:18 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203873
Post # of 203892
John, ETrade has confirmed that once a record date and payment date is set, it is VERY possible for the company to distribute the liquidating dividend. Being revoked does not prevent FFGO from distributing their dividend according to ETrade.
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I just got off the phone with Scottrade asking whether the FFGO shares that I bought through Scottrade were real or counterfit and she said that since they were bought through scottrade they should be real but there is no way of proving that . She did know that the divis were a cash deal and said as soon as all of this is cleared up they would be able to give out the divis and that the money would go directly into our accounts. Again, she said that there is no way of proving that the shares in my account are real but they should be
John
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Thanks for sharing!
Tic Toc
stoprun
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:12:35 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203892
GNCC Capital traded over one million shares today, not really sure if it means anything, but interesting to see anyhow.
GLTA!!!! Waiting for Divy, however long it takes, not going anywhere.
varmit
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:14:44 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203873
Post # of 203892
ha ha nss electric markers ... the fact is if those shares were real they would state ~!!!!! those are real shares , not they may be or might be or should be ......
ther may be up to 5 i repeat 5 trillion shares nssed , thus 5t w/d
i sure would like a settlement at $4.60 each wouldnt u ??????
funny how the 5 trillion shares were authorized at western d . not ffgo ... ????????? why . to trap nss with a fatty divy ??????
i say yes !!!!!! busted , now pay
paunch13
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:17:34 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203878
Post # of 203892
Seven
This lady seemed to know prety much about FFGO and what was going on there, when i told her about how many naked shorts there were in FFGO she said " this is going to be a major problem "
John
SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:22:05 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203881
Post # of 203892
Scottrade's risk department knows exactly how many counterfeit electronic equity markers are in their retail traders' accounts. Corporate actions department possibly would not
Vianna
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:41:42 PM
Re: stoprun post# 203879
Post # of 203892
GNCP - Yes it was a great trading day at GNCP with 1M volume and high of .08.
I LOVE your optimism stoprun!
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GNCC Capital traded over one million shares today, not really sure if it means anything, but interesting to see anyhow.
GLTA!!!! Waiting for Divy, however long it takes, not going anywhere.
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GO FFGO!!
V
Vianna
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:45:28 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203878
Post # of 203892
FFGO - SevenTenEleven and John, Thank you for the update and if there is ONE thing that is certain...the DIVY CLEARLY CAN HAPPEN!
LONGS and SHORTS know that!!
TIC TOC
V
SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:20:55 PM
Re: None
Post # of 1605
GNCP - Short Volume for July 31st - 18%
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SevenTenEleven
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:44:18 PM
Re: Peggy post# 9997
Post # of 9998
RXPC - This is what FINRA says about the daily short volume report.
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Short volume is the daily summary of unsettled trades.
Short volume is not "shorts."
Believe this has been explained on multiple occasions.
I am pleased to explain it again. - Peggy
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http://regsho.finra.org/DailyShortSaleVolumeFileLayout.pdf
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Short Volume - Aggregate reported share volume of executed short sale and short sale exempt trades during regular trading hours
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No mention of unsettled trades. Sorry!
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Short Exempt Volume - Aggregate reported share volume of executed short sale exempt trades during regular trading hours
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No short exempt volume reported for RXPC! Sorry!
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Total Volume - Aggregate reported share volume of all executed trades during regular trading hours
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http://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/finra/2009/34-60807.pdf
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7 Transactions may be reported through the Alternative Display Facility (“ADF”), a Trade Reporting Facility (“TRF”), or through the OTC Reporting Facility (“ORF”). The ADF, TRFs and ORF are collectively referred to herein as the “FINRA Facilities.” Trades in certain classes of securities, such as Rule 144A securities, are reported to the ORF, but not disseminated. Non-disseminated securities will not be included in either the daily short sale volume file or the monthly short sale transaction file.
8 Certain OTC transactions (e.g., riskless principal and agency transactions where one member is acting on behalf of another member) are reported to FINRA in related tape and non-tape reports. Tape reports are submitted to FINRA for public dissemination by the appropriate exclusive Securities Information Processor (“SIP”), while non-tape reports are submitted to FINRA, but are not submitted to the SIP for public dissemination. FINRA will not be including non-tape reports in either the daily short sale volume file or the monthly short sale transaction file. Accordingly, in those instances where the short sale indicator is only included in the related non-tape report, the short sale data published in the daily and monthly files may be under-inclusive. Similarly, the published figures will not include odd lots since these transactions are not disseminated to the consolidated tape.
11 While members generally are required to report trades in equity securities to FINRA within 90 seconds, a firm could improperly delay reporting of short sales until well after the close, which would result in the under-reporting of over-the-counter short sale volume. Delaying the reporting of trades for such a purpose would be considered a violation of the applicable trade reporting rules and Rule 2010 (Standards of Commercial Honor and Principles of Trade).
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I will stick with the TRUTH as provide by FINRA!
Good Luck!
Rocket Man
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:40:21 PM
Re: uk peter1 post# 203847
Post # of 203898
Did you read the PR on NMGL and GNCP? NMGL is key to FFGO shareholders..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:44:58 PM
Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 203846
Post # of 203898
In ground reserves have increased in value over the last 10 years +. With the economic circumstances we see in the world today in GOLD and SILVER, pricing in them will far exceed today's prices.. To say the claims in Bouse & S. Copperstone would have been sold by now has no factual basis at all, imo.. (Look at the neighbor of Copperstone a producer to this day.) We are dealing with wealthy people, attorney's, family trusts, gold bugs, etc.. The right thing (imo) will be done..
Watch the sisters people.. Read the data. HGLC was 3 of 5 dividends paid, FACT.. Keep in mind that Prime Time was the dirt bag in the story.. Nothing says HGLC can't come back to life.. FFGO may be a reporting that neve comes back to her original state, she doesn't have to.. NMGL and WD are key.. Keep in mind NMGL has the lions share of RENS. By the way GNCP is up 70% today and filings are coming per PR.. SWEET! NMGL will be watched like no other..
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If those properties were worth anything near those stated levels, they would have been sold a long time ago to real mining companies and not held this long by paper shufflers. ~RoadLessTraveled
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:01:07 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203849
Post # of 203898
FFGO's FAQs once up were a good guide to the facts on structure.. WD is the death nail for shorty.. NMGL will be the pallbearer. Nice!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:51:14 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203897
Post # of 204082
FFGO - Will it be revealed that NITE's "operational issues" are due to their naked short selling operation? Is their stock taking a hit today because settlements for stocks such as FFGO are coming? Is NITE on its way to BK?
Tic Toc
wereisis79
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:42:16 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203901
Post # of 204082
I have been saying that for
a long time. Knight I think has very little
$$$$$ and they were trying to pull something
to get big bucks to cover there A@@
And Roger's is on the board
Just watch how fast all this gets covered up.
Just fill a SEC glitch form out and you are
good to go. Knight is only making good on
5 stocks so far out of over 100 Night traded
on today so it looks like Knight will keep the money
they maid on them. Hope they got that money for US
HA Ha
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 4:29:14 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203873
Post # of 204082
Paunch that is a very big deal!! You must be on meds now from the excitement.. FFGO div in cash she says? What is to be cleared up if you will please? The huge amount of naked short position? lol Or just the final I's dotted and T's crossed about the CASH part going into our accounts?
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I just got off the phone with Scottrade asking whether the FFGO shares that I bought through Scottrade were real or counterfit and she said that since they were bought through scottrade they should be real but there is no way of proving that . She did know that the divis were a cash deal and said as soon as all of this is cleared up they would be able to give out the divis and that the money would go directly into our accounts. Again, she said that there is no way of proving that the shares in my account are real but they should be
John
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 4:56:53 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203881
Post # of 204082
Paunch~ She said it was going to be a major problem? !!! No kidding.. I can feel the chill of the cold winter day back on February 17th, 2011..
This was all short Per FINRA Daily Short Volume
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
paunch13
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:00:03 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203903
Post # of 204082
Rocket Man
I can only say what she said, if it is true or not I don't know but she seemed to be saying what she knew and I sure hope she knew what she was saying
John
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:06:18 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203907
Post # of 204082
I respect that John and I believe what you say.. Me too. I sure hope she did.. How did the topic of divis and cash come about?
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Rocket Man
I can only say what she said, if it is true or not I don't know but she seemed to be saying what she knew and I sure hope she knew what she was saying
John
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:09:49 PM
Re: Hunter6110 post# 203883
Post # of 204082
Keep in mind historical shares from GWGO have the dates since 2005.. Bouse & S. Copperstone have dates that have yet to be paid on.. HGLC was the first three..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
paunch13
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:15:23 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203908
Post # of 204082
Rocket Man
I ask her about whether my shares were real or counterfit and she said " your shares of FFGO " and I said yes and she said " if I bought them directly from the market they should be real but she could mot guerantee that but they should be , Then she said " FFGO had not traded for a couple of years and I said trading was stopped becaause of the large amount of NAKED short shares on the marked , then I said that a group of us shareholders wrote in our shares and it was more shares than there was and that is when she said that would cause a major problem , I am just hopeing this gets settled before I die
John
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:16:50 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203886
Post # of 204082
I don't think so.. Pretty sure we can safely surmise WD (FFG0) and NMGL are in bed together.. The wedding is the GOLD!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:21:28 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203910
Post # of 204082
Paunch, yes I see.. But could you please tell me how the CASH Divi part came about and how she knew it was CASH and things just need to get settled?
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
paunch13
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:40:33 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203912
Post # of 204082
Rocket Man
I mentioned the divis and that is when and I dont know how she knew but she said the divis would be a cash dive and would be placed dirrectly into our accounts, how she would have known that I don't know but it is what she said
John
paunch13
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:43:53 PM
Re: NYSERule282 post# 203913
Post # of 204082
Nyse Trading was stopped because that it what management wanted to stop shorty from being able to buy back any of its shorts
John
Texan77
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 5:50:41 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204082
hmmmmmmmmmmm cash
paunch13 Member Profile paunch13
Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:03:49 PM
Re: None
Post # of 203913
I just got off the phone with Scottrade asking whether the FFGO shares that I bought through Scottrade were real or counterfit and she said that since they were bought through scottrade they should be real but there is no way of proving that . She did know that the divis were a cash deal and said as soon as all of this is cleared up they would be able to give out the divis and that the money would go directly into our accounts. Again, she said that there is no way of proving that the shares in my account are real but they should be
John
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:04:39 PM
Re: Texan77 post# 203917
Post # of 204082
I read CASH also! Not only in the communication regarding Scottrade, but also in the company's communication with shareholders.
CASH is KING!
Texan77
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:24:10 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203920
Post # of 204082
Do you see cash befor preferreds or after prefferreds distributed?
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:27:22 PM
Re: Texan77 post# 203921
Post # of 204082
Preferreds converted to cash and the cash distributed. We never see the preferreds, IMO. Settlement for the illegal activity of market makers will not be transparent, IMO.
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:36:46 PM
Re: A deleted message
Post # of 204083
Texan77, how come your posts keep going in and out? Are you being attacked here on FFGO?
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
paunch13
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:37:14 PM
Re: NYSERule282 post# 203918
Post # of 204083
nyse
If you can't seem to understand why they allowed FFGO to be shut down then I have nothing more to say
John
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:45:21 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203923
Post # of 204083
That sounds about right.. Texan77s computer has been attacked and agrees with your view and says FFGO is golden, Via WD/NMGL!! lol lol Tex laughs a lot!!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:04:09 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203915
Post # of 204083
Is your stock account like TDA does, where they show a large percentage increase in value?
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
paunch13
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:11:49 PM
Re: A deleted message
Post # of 204083
Rocket Man
No, My stock still shows no value
John
Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:20:10 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203916
Post # of 204083
Did the SEC filings implicate or state a fact the NMGL & WD are key to FFGO?
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
5T WD haha
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SevenTenEleven
Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:33:14 AM
Re: A deleted message
Post # of 204083
FFGO - Management said it may take a year or longer for everything to come together. Looks like the party responsible for most, if not all of the counterfeit electronic equity markers in retail accounts is about to have their whole trading platform and risk exposed.
FFGO and other targeted companies will benefit from their demise!
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:46:54 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 203959
Post # of 204083
If there are skeletons in the closet from them with FFGO, the sooner they come out the better..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
paunch13
Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:54:06 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
Rocket Man
I don' know how she know it was going to be a cash deal for the FFGO shareholders , she didn't say she just made the statement that it would be a cash deal deposited into our FFGO acounts
John
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:43:36 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203966
Post # of 204084
Well then she must know whats coming then to offer something not asked for.. Nice!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
paunch13
Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:53:30 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203969
Post # of 204084
Rocket Man
That is what I thought , she sounded like she knew what she was talking . I guess she was looking at my account and that is why she knew I was talking about FFGO
John
SevenTenEleven
Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:54:31 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203970
Post # of 204084
FFGO - Cash will be easiest for all. With the exception of those who are responsible for billions of counterfeit electronic equity markers.
SevenTenEleven
Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:09:57 PM
Re: medchal post# 203974
Post # of 204084
Not according to my broker! Very easy to pay out a cash dividend/settlement. Shareholders of record are still of record.
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"Cash will be easiest for all." That's wrong. It's obvious that the easiest route for the company and its principals is doing nothing, just as was always intended. Paying out anything would require a great deal of work, the need for much of which was intentionally created by the company. If there were an intent to distribute anything, the corporation would not be dissolved.
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FACT is, all of those unsettled trades/counterfeit electronic equity markers make for a tough pill to swallow for the brokers and market makers responsible for them.
Good Luck!
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:16:47 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 203970
Post # of 204084
Sure sounds like positive information, that is for sure.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 3:14:54 PM
Re: NYSERule282 post# 203982
Post # of 204084
It may have been, but the snap shot shows HDSN. Your on..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 4:42:21 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203986
Post # of 204084
Lol.. Busted.. Rightfully so he was fined for working in the State with out a license.. Does in no way mean he wasn't qualified to do so though. He is in good standing with the State of Washington.. I am sure he'll think twice about working out of state with out at least a temporary license.. They are most often relatively cheap.. A lot less than $1,140.00 smackers.. A DUI, I hear is far more costly and mandatory jail time goes with it..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 4:59:50 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 203987
Post # of 204084
Just because the Dodo Dodge worked out of state with out a license doesn't mean that 70%+ of RENS is worthless.. Last I checked Gold is around $1,588.00 and silver is $27.14..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 5:02:34 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
Very interesting in deed about FFGO Divy!!
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Rocket Man
I mentioned the divis and that is when and I dont know how she knew but she said the divis would be a cash dive and would be placed dirrectly into our accounts, how she would have known that I don't know but it is what she said
John
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:41:18 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
Maybe there is some truth to FFGO and a certain market maker on 02/17/2012, that cold winter day where over 500 million shares traded that were 99%+ short volume that day.. Which since that day could not have been covered imo.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=78093185
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:11:01 PM
Re: NYSERule282 post# 203996
Post # of 204084
I thought you said you read the PR?
Quote:
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GNCC Capital, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: GNCP) ("the Company") updates its stockholders as to certain transactions that will be included in the Company's results for the Third Quarter ended June 30, 2012, to be published and filed in July 2012. The Third Quarter Report with the Attorney's Letter must be filed with the OTC Markets Group by August 15, 2012 at the latest, to maintain the Company's "Current Information" status.
The Company's Directors together with their Advisors and key stockholders have been carefully examining a number of options for the Company to explore synergies and to work together alongside North American Gold & Minerals Fund (PINKSHEETS: NMGL) and with another publicly quoted Gold Exploration Company (referred to as "Subco") that is controlled by North American Gold & Minerals Fund ("the Fund"). Stockholders are advised that the Company's Chairman also serves as Chairman of the Fund and of the Subco.
The Company has in its Third Quarter taken some steps in this direction, namely:
Acquisition of some the short term debt owed by the Fund; and
Acquisition of some of the debt owed by Subco.
In addition to these steps taken in the Third Quarter, the Company is providing the required funding, expertise and advisors to both the Fund and to Subco, in order for both of these Companies to file their required financial and other information as is required to establish both of these Companies as "Current Information" with the OTC Markets Group. Both the Fund and Subco recently filed a Form 15-12G with the Commission and currently have "STOP" annotations with the OTC Markets Group. Certain State filings are required to be made by both the Fund and Subco and the cost of the same will be advanced by this Company. This is expected to be completed in August 2012. These funds being advanced by this Company to the Fund and to Subco, will in the immediate term, be accounted for as short term loans.
In addition of the above-mentioned, the Company has in its Third Quarter:
Obtained a long term, low interest and unsecured Loan which has settled all of the immediate short term liabilities, including stockholder loans, of the Company and provided some additional funding; and
Renewed the Chairman's Service Agreement for another 2 (two) year period, he is taking $1 annually in salary and has accepted long term Stock Options, this due to his already considerable equity holding in the company and his perceived potential upside of the stock price; and
Revised the terms of the Company's Advisors' Agreements to reflect additional services being provided to the Company; and
Entered into certain long term Stock Option Agreements.
No shares of the Company's Common Stock were issued in the Third Quarter nor has the Company's "free float" been increased whatsoever. The Company stands by its commitment not to increase the number of outstanding shares of Common Stock.
In the last Quarter of this Financial Year ending September 30, 2012, the Company's Management is working on previously unreported activities, namely:
Establishing an income stream to fund exploration expenditure through the use of fairly complex leveraged and hedged financial instruments under a proposed arrangement with a third party, this is a financial engineering model designed to raise capital without the issuance of shares of this Company's Common Stock and to avoid the addition of long term liabilities to the Company's Balance Sheet; and
Establishing a Gold derivative trading operation to create an additional income stream and to enhance its capital; and
The possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time; and
The possibility of sharing expenses with the Fund in both exploration and administration, including Geologists and other professional advisors, designed to grow both the Company and the Fund fairly rapidly without the burden of carrying the costs alone, this really being an exercise of cost savings; and
The injection of working capital into the Fund by the Company and to the Company taking an equity interest in shares of the Common Stock of the Fund.
The Company will not be considering the acquisition of any additional Exploration Properties until the next Financial Year commencing October 1, 2012. This excludes the aforementioned possibility of a 50/50 Joint Venture with the Fund on a significant Arizona Gold Exploration Property not owned by either at this time.
The Company stresses that neither swaps nor acquisition of any interests in any of the Mining Interests residing in the Company or in the Fund will be taking place. All and any transactions being contemplated with the Fund will only be executed if considered to be in the best interests of the stockholders of the Company.
At this time, it is considered highly unlikely that the Company will be extending its relationship with Subco as this Company's Management foresees significant reorganization at Subco.
The delayed Chairman's Statement setting out of the Company's position, planning, etc. will now be published alongside the Company's Third Quarter results in July 2012, the synergies and arrangements outlined in this Press Release will be covered in depth in this Statement.
The Company recorded a loss of $0.0015 per share in the second quarter ended March 31, 2012 compared to a loss of $0.0013 per share in the first quarter ended December 31, 2011.
The Company's Management had expected to record losses in the third quarter ending June 30, 2012 that were substantially higher due to accelerated exploration expenses, which are expensed, not capitalized, the retaining of at least one full time Geologist and fairly substantial costs associated with the raising of the Company's profile in the investment community. The Company's Management is now expecting to record these additional expenses in the fourth quarter ended September 30, 2012. The company's contractual commitments totaling $180,000 in exploration charges on its properties will now be expensed in the Fourth Quarter ending September 30, 2012. These losses are normal, expected and are within our stated business model for this fiscal year while we remain an Exploration Stage Company.
The Company's website is currently being completely redesigned and its content materially updated in order to better reflect our portfolio of properties, our corporate plans, and developments. Once it is completed, stockholders will be advised through a press release. This process was deliberately delayed whilst the Company's Management was examining a number of options for the Company to explore synergies and to work together alongside the Fund.
The Company's Management recognizes the importance of Investor Relations and the creation of awareness for the Company and stresses that it remains committed to this policy, this is expected to commence in this, the Fourth Quarter, now that the Company's Management has resolved certain key issues and has decided upon its relationship with the Fund as outlined in this Press Release. The Company has not yet appointed a firm. Once appointed, stockholders will be advised through a press release.
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:36:32 PM
Re: Nitwit post# 203998
Post # of 204084
You don't get the point about FFGO.. WD/NMGL is the key..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
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Rocket Man
Friday, August 03, 2012 1:26:24 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
FFGO~ making the top boards again.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
AlanC
Friday, August 03, 2012 7:27:05 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203994
Post # of 204084
No question who supplied all those shares on that cold winter day.
Impossible for those shares to have been covered since even if every single transaction had been folks selling shares and as we both know based on FINRA reports that was not the case. Will a receiver be appointed? Will an audit be completed? Who in their right mind would want to lend this operation money or buy them out unless..............!!! Interesting days ahead. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
wereisis79
Friday, August 03, 2012 7:43:44 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
That would not be Mr.
K now would it. O no they are
all above that. Ya right.
O It's just a glitch. And yes this
is about FFGO and were all the
shares came from. Some one did it and
it was not the shareholders.
paunch13
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:03:31 AM
Re: AlanC post# 204001
Post # of 204084
AlanC
This is all comming to a head and the share holders should be the winner unless there is enough bribe money out there and they find a regulater will to take the bribe
John
SevenTenEleven
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:39:28 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 203999
Post # of 204084
FFGO - The KCOC's are still very active. Things are about to change significantly in the OTC. All of those illegal counterfeit electronic equity markers are about to be exposed for NITE et al.
spiritthing
Friday, August 03, 2012 11:15:22 AM
Re: wereisis79 post# 204010
Post # of 204084
I agree, it makes for a good front! Lets just hope that all those effected by the so called glitch gets compensated at fair value. Spirit
wereisis79
Friday, August 03, 2012 12:15:01 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
I will take the hit and a lot
of others will as well.
Knight will never cover any
of the short in FFGO and a lot of
other stocks they were short on.
And why is every one talking about all the lawsuits
people are going to lose a ton
160 stocks are going to take a hit and
it looks like the SEC DTTC will let stand all about
6 So let the little
people take the hit on all the other ones.
Nice WOW
AlanC
Friday, August 03, 2012 12:18:30 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204014
Post # of 204084
Sounds like you are describing what is going on at Knight to me. I agree that they are slimy snakes!
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Rocket Man
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:42:58 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 204006
Post # of 204084
FFGO~ That cold winter day 02/17/2011 was a wild day for MMs in FFGO.. And in the news today?
Quote:
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Is KCG's lack of involvement in the markets right now cause for this market
to move higher as a result of the Firm's lack of short participation in the
markets? In my opinion, it's quite possible because many big firms on Wall
Street have routed orders elsewhere since KCG's screw up. If their market
makers don't have those huge accounts to play with, then they have no horse
and no spear to joust.~ WSJ
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Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:45:17 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204009
Post # of 204084
It is in FFGO through WD/NMGL, just like before yet different.. lol..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:45:30 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 204030
Post # of 204084
FFGO - We all know that NITE has be the SHORTER in the OTC and the markets. Their KCOC's help with the assist.
Times are changing!
FFGO will be proven right and the KCOC's wrong!
Rocket Man
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:50:41 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204012
Post # of 204084
The stocks went up and they lost $440 million.. Go figure. Who looses when stocks go up? lol SHORTY DOES!~
FFGO has been flat out short for many years.. FINRA numbers prove it.. REVOKED FFGO can lay where she is.. WD/NMGL is key, imo! SMOKIN!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:53:36 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204014
Post # of 204084
No divy ever? What about HGLC, that was three divs that were rail roaded by brokers, the DTCC and Arnold and crew? What about the records dates for the historical Divs in Bouse & South Copperstone held on book? WD/NMLG is key.. SMOKIN!!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:56:10 PM
Re: A deleted message
Post # of 204084
FFGO~ Or bigger fish that didn't like the bait.. FFGO has 10s - 100s of billions of shares short. When stocks go up.. Shorty looses money.. Hello!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:08:50 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 204036
Post # of 204084
FFGO - I guess NITE was looking for other places with greater liquidity, and volume, to scam investors, and as some claim, "do their job naked short selling".
What happened in the OTC, a couple years ago, opened the eyes of many investors and traders.
Successful short squeezes started getting the best of NITE et al.
Shareholders were becoming better educated, and more cautious of the advice of KCOC's. NITE's only defense was to lean on their regulatory friends to go after squeeze players, accusing them of manipulation.
Investors also started realizing how effective the short and distort was being run.
Having said that, FFGO, trapped NITE et al with possibly, billions of dollars worth of liability.
So what does a market maker whose software is designed to manipulate the markets through naked short selling and covering do?
They try their luck in the NYSE and GET BUSTED!
Like you, I believe bigger fish and brokers with much deeper pockets quickly caught what NITE was doing. Within 45 minutes, NITE was near BK.
As the SEC, FBI, DOJ, IRS, and FINRA comb through NITE's records, the billions of unsettled trades for FFGO and other OTC stocks should surface, if they know where to look.
It is good to know that with NITE not shorting into every buy, stocks will actually have a chance of moving up, and companies will have a chance to raise capital selling stock, and not by allowing shorts to cover below $0.0001.
Tic Toc
varmit
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:15:18 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 204032
Post # of 204084
HEARD FFGO from headquarters that the divvy will be issued soon .....
the nss positions will be exposed and prosecution will begin .
unless of course the nss can cover and buyback or settle 5 trillion shares authorized thus 5t w/d as bull has stated time and time and time again 5t w/d .
this is the biggest short position in history . this record date and divvy will x-pose all nss shorts and the mms that sold illegally without any intent 2 cover thinking ffgo would go broke
little did they know that a divvy for .003449 per share was iminent ,,,,,, 5t w/d i like it
so ffgoers be prepared for a $ 4.60 pss dividend from mms that are massive short and stuck , forced 2 pay us in cash or settlement amount in million and millions usd
until then i am your favorite varmit !!!!!!!!
varmit
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:22:12 PM
Re: A deleted message
Post # of 204084
ffgo varmits investment group may decide to start a class action lawsiut against all mms that nss shorted ffgo to its death !!!!
then all of you buck a share members can join in and enjoy a massive settlement from mms that burned us down to he--
the sec takes way 2 long 2 get things done so we may have 2 take action in addition to finra and sec .
the 3 of us should be able to put a certain mm out of business for good nite !!!!!!!!
and receive a dividend of $ 4.60 per share of ffgo stock .....
my cut 5.23 billion usd should cover suit costs
SevenTenEleven
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:29:31 PM
Re: varmit post# 204039
Post # of 204084
FFGO - $4.60 is about where naked short sellers began their attack on FFGO, its shareholders, and its officers.
$7.82B would sure put a dent in NITE's capital reserves!
FINRA and the SEC know NITE and others have been abusively naked short selling stocks, and never covering or intending on covering. They have created billions and billions of counterfeit electronic equity markers. I understand that the new "term" is "unsettled trades". Sure they are unsettled, because there was never anything borrowed or delivered!
Will NITE blame their computer system for hiding and parking the counterfeit electronic equity markers in retail brokerage accounts?
Rocket Man
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:24:55 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 204037
Post # of 204084
FFGO~ Seems like to me. Take a target and hit it hard until the Co fails.. Add a negative sentiment on top of it as in orchestrated take downs with mouth pieces in on a real or perceived weakness from say a CEO, etc.. Then just short it like no other.. The regulators are very forgiving and so are clients with their vendors.. Kinda like take your time, we'll work with you.. Just not ever saying enough is enough, cover.. Breeds a thick scum that just sticks to everything.. Like that cold winter day exposing 2 years of short volume that is most likely one of the largest ever!! I hope the SEC reads this.. As Norma said we take this seriously.. That was years ago!! I guess serious means we hope we don't ever have to confront one of the largest naked short positions in history, that serious.. Running scared! If the MM in question is targeted and is failing from lack of trust; TDA, Fidelity, etc.. may very well come back on board.. Goldman has leverage.. Will it last.. Nope.. Leaches need a host they can trust!
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
SevenTenEleven
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:37:30 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 204042
Post # of 204084
FFGO - Very well expressed Rocket!
NITE has naked short sold FFGO to the tune of possibly 200B or more shares.
The SEC and FINRA are afraid to act. They would be admitting oversight on their part.
Imagine if GS takes a look behind the curtain and see billions of shares of naked short sold shares, in thousands of companies, including FFGO and maybe even GS and Leman Brothers?
They will pull back the line of credit and leave NITE to die on the vine.
NITE's counter-parties will still be on the hook for all of their open positions. They will be forced to settle, or go to prison.
A cash settlement will likely be triggered for our FFGO Dividends.
Tic Toc
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
next week(s) is here
Who's Next!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA
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Shortmans Anthem!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRge7lXu56E
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wereisis79
Saturday, August 04, 2012 6:19:31 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
Most of us new this for a long long
time. And yes Night got BUSTED! by NYSE
They were way in over there head on the short side.
May be others will wake up.
Nice post.
FFGO - I guess NITE was looking for other places with greater liquidity, and volume, to scam investors, and as some claim, "do their job naked short selling".
What happened in the OTC, a couple years ago, opened the eyes of many investors and traders.
Successful short squeezes started getting the best of NITE et al.
Shareholders were becoming better educated, and more cautious of the advice of KCOC's. NITE's only defense was to lean on their regulatory friends to go after squeeze players, accusing them of manipulation.
Investors also started realizing how effective the short and distort was being run.
Having said that, FFGO, trapped NITE et al with possibly, billions of dollars worth of liability.
So what does a market maker whose software is designed to manipulate the markets through naked short selling and covering do?
They try their luck in the NYSE and GET BUSTED!
Like you, I believe bigger fish and brokers with much deeper pockets quickly caught what NITE was doing. Within 45 minutes, NITE was near BK.
As the SEC, FBI, DOJ, IRS, and FINRA comb through NITE's records, the billions of unsettled trades for FFGO and other OTC stocks should surface, if they know where to look.
It is good to know that with NITE not shorting into every buy, stocks will actually have a chance of moving up, and companies will have a chance to raise capital selling stock, and not by allowing shorts to cover below $0.0001.
AlanC
Saturday, August 04, 2012 7:56:43 AM
Re: Rocket Man post# 204042
Post # of 204084
RocketMan: We know who sold all those non existant shares on that cold winter day but we don't know whether Knight was selling them for their own account or some offshore hedge fund. Now Knight has another problem that occured on a hot summer day that might cause them to file bankruptcy in the next few days. Perhaps it might be timely to forward all that cold winter day documentation to the regulators once more. They might just investigate that trading based on the current circumstances and environment. Of course it could be that this is how taxpayers will end up paying for all of Wall Streets fraud. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for.
AlanC
Saturday, August 04, 2012 8:01:31 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 204043
Post # of 204084
That would be fitting and is a plausible solution. Somehow the regulators have to come out of this not looking like complete idiots or captured. Your solution would work. Cleaning up the fraud that has run rampant in our markets for years while the regulators winked and looked the other way is going to be costly.
Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Rocket Man
Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:21:55 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204084
FFGO ~ T-11 IMO Read the filings and PRs from the sisters.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
tatoo1
Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:15:19 PM
Re: varmit post# 204038
Post # of 204085
Varmit love that positivity. And sure hope you are right. The 2 years are up. So it should be soon.
Rocket Man
Saturday, August 04, 2012 8:27:05 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204086
FFGO has 10 million oz of GOLD at min imo with B & SC .. 200 Billion naked short shares in FFGO, is that why I have adds now on my account? lol
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Colorado5
Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:12:59 PM
Re: Rocket Man post# 204063
Post # of 204086
Notice how every one is trying to find out FFGO's address/phone#!!!
paunch13
Sunday, August 05, 2012 11:04:00 AM
Re: Dhoraji post# 204079
Post # of 204086
Dhoraji
I believe you are right and I believe the way to stop naked short sales is to a prison sentence on the sale of naked short selling , something large enough to get the attention of anyone commiting this chime say maybe five years or more and then just maybe we could have a far different mmarket
John
Rocket Man
Sunday, August 05, 2012 12:04:59 PM
Re: Colorado5 post# 204068
Post # of 204086
Yes, FFGO is for some reason a sought after commodity. Must be the GOLD or the massive short position! I'll let everyone decide.. Lol Go NMGL / WD=$.0035RL. Kick em to the curb, don't even take names. Nite nite.
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
next week(s) is here
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AlanC
Monday, August 06, 2012 7:03:11 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204088
Post # of 204104
Yep FFGO announced it was liquidating and the liquidating dividends would be paid by NMGL. Going to be an expensive day for the shortman when those dividends are paid since that is who will be paying the bulk of them. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
wereisis79
Monday, August 06, 2012 10:08:24 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204104
So night says they
got it wrong after talking to the SEC
on CNBC
Just maybe there is hope after all. Looks
like every one may come clean on what has
been going on in the markets.
So lets hope every one will cover all the
naked shorts that they did not plan on covering.
And got some $$$$ for us also.
We all no FFGO has a lot of short shares out there
that must be covered.
varmit
Monday, August 06, 2012 4:10:12 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204091
Post # of 204104
FFGO oh wait ,,,,, nmgl /subco are going 2 announce something any day now !!!!!
oh wait its divvy time
oh wait mining begins on bouse and s.c.
oh wait we still own our shares in ffgo even after the divy .
wont need them when shorters pay us our buck a share
oh wait mms do not have any real shares to cover with to the tune of 5 trillion w/d .
oh wait shorty got trapped .
oh wait we have 277 billion shares up for sale in the buck a share club ....
shorty i have the holder list if u want 2 settle out of JAIL
varmit
Monday, August 06, 2012 4:17:18 PM
Re: varmit post# 204095
Post # of 204104
OH WAIT FFGO
how can ther be 277 billion shares for sale at the buck a share club ????????????????? m
if there are only 85 billion authorized shares of ffgo stock ?????????????????
how can this be ???????
somthing is wrong here
could someone have shorted ffgo stock nss ??????
with shares that do not exist ??????
phantom shares ????
air shares ????
naked short shares ????
isnt that illegal ??????? if they do not cover ??????
oooooh oh the trap was sprung and shorty cannot cover cuz ffgo dont trade no more !!!!!!!!!!!
NOW WHAT ?????buy 277 billion shares from us shareholders at the buck a share club ???????
what about the billions of short shares that have not joined the buck a share club ????
what about that ??????
wow we have a crate of dynomite here about to blow any day now
SUBCO SUBCO/NMGL
AlanC
Monday, August 06, 2012 8:54:41 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 7835
Post # of 7842
Name the members of the gang if you would.
Are they criminals?
What are they guilty of?
Looking forward to your nameing names.
Go NMGL!!!
5T WD haha
BMFL<OD
next week(s) is here
Who's Next!
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madeindet
Monday, August 06, 2012 5:11:24 PM
Re: janice shell post# 3824
Post # of 3895
Janice you are being very forgiving to Knight and Mr Joyce for such a major violation and damage caused to the shareholder base.
madeindet
In reply to: janice shell who wrote msg# 3874 Date:8/6/2012 7:15:14 PM
Post #3877 of 3891
Janice did you write any articles about the Knight Capital fiasco? I enjoy reading the articles you write at the street sweeper.
fourkids_9pets
Monday, August 06, 2012 12:09:37 PM
Re: fourkids_9pets post# 3622
Post # of 4001
Knight avoids collapse with $400 million lifeline
Associated Press, The "AP Financial News"
Monday, August 06 2012 11:25 AM, EST
NEW YORK -- Knight Capital Group , the trading firm responsible for last week's stock market mayhem, avoided collapse by lining up a $400 million lifeline from a group of other Wall Street companies Monday morning.
But the money comes at a steep price.
Knight says it will get the cash infusion from an investor group led by Jefferies Group , as well as Blackstone, Getco, Stephens, Stifel Nicolaus and TD Ameritrade . In exchange, the group will receive stock that can be converted to a 73 percent stake in Knight, which means Knight is essentially handing over control to the investor group. Knight will also add three directors to its board.
Knight's stock has mostly been in free-fall since a massive computer error in its systems last Wednesday sent huge numbers of erroneous orders flooding into the market, causing dozens of stocks to swing wildly in heavy volume. Knight said the foul-up would cost the firm $440 million as it paid for stock positions it mistakenly bought. Early Monday Knight's stock took another pounding, dropping 25 percent, or $1.01 , to $3.02 . It closed last Tuesday at $10.33 .
Knight's CEO Thomas Joyce , speaking in an interview on CNBC , said that only Knight, and not its clients, were hurt by Wednesday's snafu.
"This was an isolated situation," Joyce said. "We screwed up. We paid the price."
Joyce said his firm was still doing a post-mortem on the technical blunder and still didn't have a full understanding of what went wrong. He characterized the error as a "large" but "simple" breakdown on trading technology.
Knight Capital , based in Jersey City, N.J. , is a trading firm that takes orders from big brokers like TD Ameritrade and E-Trade. It then routes them to the exchanges where stocks are traded, like the New York Stock Exchange .
Even with the cash infusion, it's not yet clear that Knight will regain the trust of other key players in the stock market to carry on and survive as a firm. Last week some of Knight's trading partners said they would suspend routing trades through them until the situation settles.
One of the roles Knight plays in the stock market is that of a "designated market maker." Those firms are responsible for keeping trading of the stocks they oversee orderly. They are viewed as particularly important during the open and close of trading, as well as during times when there is a lot of volatility in the market.
Ten minutes before stock trading opened Monday morning, the New York Stock Exchange issued a press release saying it was temporarily reassigning Knight's responsibilities of trading 524 NYSE -listed stocks to Getco, a rival firm and also one of Knight's new owners.
In another troubling sign of financial market malfunction, trading on Madrid's stock exchange was suspended for five hours Monday because of a technical glitch. An exchange spokesman didn't provide any further details. Spain's stock market has been in turmoil for months as the country's banking system teeters on the brink of collapse following the implosion of a real estate bubble there. Spain's benchmark Ibex-35 index surged 4.4 percent Monday, its latest gigantic swing.
Knight's blunder has been a disaster for the firm's current investors. The value of the company's stock is now down 70 percent from Tuesday, the day before the blunder occurred. By issuing more shares, the value of what's held by current investors is diluted among more shareholders. It also means the company's earnings are spread among a greater number of shares.
When a public company sells such a big portion of itself, it's usually required to ask shareholders for their permission first. But the New York Stock Exchange granted Knight an exception, after Knight's board determined that waiting for a vote "would seriously jeopardize the financial viability of Knight," the company said in a news release.
The investor group will receive 267 million shares that they'll be able to convert to common stock for $1.50 a share. The firm currently has about 98 million outstanding shares, according to FactSet.
The Wall Street Journal reported that Knight asked the Securities and Exchange Commission , the federal regulator that oversees businesses, for an exemption so it wouldn't have to buy back so many of the mistaken trades, but the SEC declined.
Knight's CEO, Joyce, confirmed on CNBC that he did speak to SEC chairwoman Mary Schapiro over the weekend. "We had a frank discussion, and she did what she thought was right for the industry," Joyce said.
The SEC does allow trading firms to cancel some erroneous trades, but it has gotten stricter about what qualifies ever since the notorious "flash crash" of May 2010 , when another technical problem sent the Dow Jones industrial average plunging nearly 600 points in five minutes.
Joyce said he respected Schapiro's decision but added: "This was an error, by any definition this was an error, so we would have liked to see some more flexibility."
The trading disaster Knight caused has revived a thorny debate in the financial system about the merits of high-speed trading, where lightning-fast mathematical algorithms trade stocks in milliseconds and, as recent mistakes indicates, strain the system that is supposed to handle them. More and more stock trading is handled by computers, and many market players have called for stricter controls to prevent disasters from happening.
Those problems, which have severely damaged confidence in financial markets, have been becoming more frequent. In May the highly anticipated market debut of Facebook was marred by a series of technical bugs. Technical problems at Nasdaq delayed the opening of trading by half an hour and kept many investors from knowing if their trades had gone through.
At that time, Joyce was one of the most outspoken critics of Nasdaq. Monday, he appeared humbled by his own firm's mistake, but was also adamant that the two situations were different.
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AP Business Writer Michelle Chapman contributed to this story.
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wereisis79
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:25:12 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204130
Yes they are hooked to one another banks stocks M@Ms brokers all of it.
So when it comes to night there will be more fall out. So the thing is ho is next. Just hope there is money for all the shorts that must be covered like FIFO and others. I think night had to cover on the shorts and took a hit.
I just hope every one that needs to cover dose. So we get over all this, That would be best for all.
Just my thinking!!
AlanC
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:39:15 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204112
Post # of 204130
As long as my brokerage firm puts the dividends/cash in my account I don't care who I hear from. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Colorado5
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:52:49 PM
Re: wereisis79 post# 204111
Post # of 204130
Can you imagine what this would do to WORLD ECONOMY once every one gets paid what was stolen from them. Coney Island will be a busy place again.
paunch13
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:52:59 PM
Re: AlanC post# 204113
Post # of 204130
Alan
Right, It makes no difference where the money comes from,It can come from anywhere even from shorty , in fact I would rather it did come from shorty'
John
paunch13
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:54:35 PM
Re: Colorado5 post# 204114
Post # of 204130
Colorado5
Who knows it might be enough money to pay off the national debt
John
stoprun
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:20:41 PM
Re: ctrumabll post# 204119
Post # of 204125
Boy, am I glad that story is over, now I won't have to listen to "Shorty" anymore and why is shorty still here 24/7/365, if this story is over, get real.
Stupid is as Stupid does!!!!
wrenchman
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 3:40:06 PM
Re: stoprun post# 204123
Post # of 204125
Some peeps might have to look for other work if this was to ever go away like mister ruff ruff!!!Go FFGO Shorty is going down!!!!
wereisis79
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 6:20:49 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204129
Can't stand the truth WOW You can run but you can't hide Just like night found out.
Go ffgo
You can delete but it will still live on in computer world ha ha
AlanC
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:58:04 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1605
Post # of 1613
No surpise here: http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=gncp&SortBy=volume&Month=7-1-2012&IMAGE1.x=15&IMAGE1.y=5
Go GNCP!!!
GNCP - GNCC CAPITAL, INC.
Page of 1
July 2012 June 2012 Year-to-Date
Volume Rank % Volume Rank % Volume Rank %
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Total Share Volume 2,065,462
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NITE
Knight Execution & Clearing S 1,152,807 1 55 226,403 1 80 9,245,771 1 73
ETRF
E*Trade Capital Markets LLC 505,875 2 24 - - - 505,875 4 4
DLNY
DELANEY EQUITY GROUP LLC 200,000 3 9 7,000 4 2 367,000 6 2
FANC
Finance 500, Inc. 60,000 4 2 - - - 100,000 8 <1
CANT
Cantor, Fitzgerald & Co. 58,500 5 2 - - - 58,500 11 <1
ATDF
AUTOMATED TRADING DESK FINANC 55,000 6 2 - - - 55,000 12 <1
UBSS
UBS Securities LLC 19,700 7 <1 15,000 3 5 324,567 7 2
VERT
The Vertical Trading Group 10,000 8 <1 - - - 70,000 10 <1
CDRG
Citadel Securities LLC 3,580 9 <1 - - - 16,580 13 <1
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Rocket Man
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:49:38 AM
Re: AlanC post# 1611
Post # of 1613
GNCP, no surprise at all..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
Rocket Man
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:55:25 AM
Re: AlanC post# 1611
Post # of 1613
Notice the paid for hire OTC Market doesn't post the short volumes on GNCP anymore like they did one of the sisters. Yet your link shows all that volume for the year.. Looks like the MM is or was playing games and the OTC market is in cahoots.. imo
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AlanC
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:58:04 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 1605
Post # of 1612
No surpise here: www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=gncp&SortBy=volume&Month=7-1-2012&IMAGE1.x=15&IMAGE1.y=5
Go GNCP!!!
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http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GNCP/short-sales
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
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Rocket Man
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 3:39:01 AM
Re: Nitwit post# 204107
Post # of 204176
No. Not at all.. We all know the facts with FFGO on that cold winter day.. Even Norma is involved..
Just a little short? I wouldn't want to be, at all~
varmit
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:11:19 AM
Re: ctrumabll post# 204119
Post # of 204137
CRUMBALL FFGO
you should realize and understand clearly that the dividend will be issued upon closing of sale of bouse and s.c.
the up to 5 trillion nss short shares will need 2 be dealt with at that time
which is any day now . do u even own ffgo crumbag ??????if so you are not listed as a receiver of the dollar a share club .
and are not in the nss count of 367 billion shares purchased by ffgo shareholders and only 85 billion shares are authorized
leaving a rather large short uncovered position by mms .
good shining knight . sleep wel
varmit
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:21:37 AM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204118
Post # of 204176
ffgo matter a faq
nmgl will be issueing the dividend upon sale closing
docs in process . just a small time frame to issuing cash dividend and setting the record date .
thus triggering the short squezzzzzzzzzeeeee .
oh wait ??????? the shorts cant cover cuz no trading is allowed ..
oh wait !!!!! they can buy up to 367 billion shares from the buck a share sale /held by only 241 shareholders on the list .
it sure seems that there are over 241 shareholders of ffgo
that explains where the 5 trillion shares are from western d that were authorized and then after nss hit the roof of 5 trillion , the shares were reduced to 75 billion .
trap sprung for the illegal sold nss shares .
sometimes the prosecution process takes a year or 2 but we will prevail and get our dollar a share .....
will you come party on our yacht pup ????? drinks on us ![]()
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SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:26:02 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204176
FFGO - Dividend process continues to trouble the shorts. The risk and liability are significant. Where will they get billions of dollars to cover their counterfeit electronic equity markers?
Imagine if the investment community understood how market makers, bankers, and retail brokers have been counterfeiting equity positions in retail brokerage accounts.
Those responsible for aiding and abetting the counter-parties, many out of Canada, are about to see a change. Shareholders have spoken!
Tic Toc
wereisis79
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:35:31 AM
Re: None
Post # of 204176
Varmit I am up for a very large party on yacht. I have 11.000.000 of FFGO
That will get the party going I would think.
I was a commercial fishermen Out of Kodiak Alaska Fish for pacific pearl. So what ever yacht we get. it must have a very large stores room We fisherman
can put it away. I drink B52s @ Orange @ CC
GO FFGO Lets have that party.!!
AlanC
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:59:28 AM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 204138
Post # of 204176
I agree the KCG fiasco was just a precursor of what is to come.
Think of all the good that will be acheived by bringing that money back home from offshore and into shareholders hands who will willingly pay taxes, spend, and create jobs in the process. A win win win and the loss loss loss only effects a small number of folks when compared to those who will win. We know for a fact that Knight sold the FFGO shares on that cold winter day nakedly short. How many billions are they or their offshore hedge fund clients short?
I hope they still have that cash because if not they will bring others down with them, then again, I suppose that is why they helped out in the first place. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Vianna
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:35:45 PM
Re: wereisis79 post# 204139
Post # of 204176
Looking forward to joining you and varmit and ALL on that yacht, wereisi79!!
Nice post, SevenTenEleven!
Tic Toc
V
FFGO - Dividend process continues to trouble the shorts. The risk and liability are significant. Where will they get billions of dollars to cover their counterfeit electronic equity markers?
Imagine if the investment community understood how market makers, bankers, and retail brokers have been counterfeiting equity positions in retail brokerage accounts.
Those responsible for aiding and abetting the counter-parties, many out of Canada, are about to see a change. Shareholders have spoken!
Tic Toc
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:50:22 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204150
Post # of 204176
FFGO - Dividend process still a threat to short sellers! Thanks for confirming!
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Slowly the truth is sinking in to the majority of FFGO share holders
they were conned by this gang of sub penny pump and dump operators operating out of So Africa and the UK
The reality is ..................
Revoked
Abandoned
Dissolved
No longer a legal entity
The company and management has totally vanished along with common share holders hard earned money
FFGO has completely wiped away all traces of managements whereabouts
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Good Luck!
paunch13
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:52:34 PM
Re: Vianna post# 204148
Post # of 204176
Vianna
If we ever see this completed and get our divis we will all be very happy or I should say all us share holders , I guess shorty will be very sad although he has probably gotten a lot more money from selling FFGO naked short then he will have to pay back
paunch13
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:15:51 PM
Re: MBJS post# 204156
Post # of 204176
MBJS,
If the $ 1.00 per shares is paid it might bring back half of what they have stolen by naked shorting FFGO
John
AlanC
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:18:46 PM
Re: ctrumabll post# 204149
Post # of 204176
Actually you are correct, forcing the shorts to bring back the stolen untaxed funds from offshore in order to pay the dividends on the non existant shares they are liable for will significantly help the economy. Putting those funds into the hands of folks like me who will spend stimulating the economy and creating jobs and removing it from the criminals hands is a win win win situation. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400%+ are worth waiting for!
Vianna
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:10:22 PM
Re: paunch13 post# 204152
Post # of 204176
WIN/WIN for ALL but Naked SHORTY!
Interesting point, John...maybe...
Overall, I am inclined to believe, SHORTY will LOSE A LOT of money WHEN Ron Lowenthal follows through.
As for my "WIN/WIN" reference above, I would like to emphasize that once Ron Lowenthal follows through (with all principals tied to this), it will not only bring them $$$ for this transaction but of course for FUTURE ones because of CREDIBILITY.
...not to mention ALL the GOOD it will do for the 1000s of LONGS that have been patient (month from today it will be 2 years) and DESERVE the WIN here with this tough economy...AND...not to mention ALL those friends, family and charitable organizations that will also benefit.
Again, WIN/WIN SCENARIO here once NMGL pays the Divy...!!!!!!!
LET US KEEP THE FAITH THAT those controlling this WILL DO THE RIGHT THING!
GO FFGO!!
V
(Hi C&D)
paunch13
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:52:34 PM
Re: Vianna post# 204148
Post # of 204165
Vianna
If we ever see this completed and get our divis we will all be very happy or I should say all us share holders , I guess shorty will be very sad although he has probably gotten a lot more money from selling FFGO naked short then he will have to pay back
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:38:32 PM
Re: Vianna post# 204166
Post # of 204176
FFGO - Rumor has it, brokers are still *recommending* that shareholders take 100% losses. There are even false claims that is shareholders do take said 100% losses, and allow their brokers to remove their shares from their account, they will still be the rightful owner of those shares.
Securities lawyers, tax accountants, and the IRS disagree. So does my broker! But who would know better than a journalist!
Looking forward to the GNCP and NMGL filings. Should give guidance and direction to FFGO shareholders, IMO.
Tic Toc
SevenTenEleven
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:44:50 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204169
Post # of 204176
FFGO - Still waiting for that documentation to support claims that are not supported by the company's SEC Filings and the Investor Communications provided in the FAQ's and email communications.
Quote:
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no guidance will be offered to revoked FFGO share holders
just excuses for the failed FFGO agreements between FFGO and NMGL
or totally ignored
good luck!
I believe ronnie will keep the FFGO can of worms on the low down
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Oh wait!
No communications with/from company will occur until the company announces the record and payment date.
Colorful and entertaining, at best!
Good Luck!
AlanC
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:07:57 PM
Re: SevenTenEleven post# 204171
Post # of 204174
We are so blessed to have folks here 24/7 giving up their valuable time with no expectations since they have never owned a share. Think about it. What kind of person would spend thousands of hours of their time sharing their knowledge with others at absolutely no cost and with nothing wanted or expected in return. These humanitarians are incredilbe people. I don't know a single one of my friends or business associates who would be willing to make the sacrifices they do, not a one. Just amazing to me how generous these folks are and I have no doubt they will be rewarded for their "good" works. Go FFGO!!!
Dividends of 3400% are worth waiting for!
rc310q
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:28:38 PM
Re: AlanC post# 204173
Post # of 204174
Oh I think you have it wrong AlanC. They are employed by NITE. Why else do they keep saying that we need to write off our shares. They need to cover the divy.
GO FFGO. waiting for the 3400% or the buck@share. What ever comes first.
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varmit
Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:24:23 PM
Re: medchal post# 204183
Post # of 204187
HEY madcow !!!!!! ffgo has billions of nss proven faq ,,,,
they have been fighting it since gwgo
and nss are illegal so nobody can show proof until the record date is set then you will see the massive comotion when the shorts are forced 2 cover or visit bernie and robby
the buck a share way is much cheaper for nss than jail
varmit
Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:32:05 PM
Re: RoadLessTraveled post# 204178
Post # of 204188
ffgo i do not see why your poor feelings are hurt cuz nmgl has 60 plus billion in gold and doesnt need to report or talk to you ..... go to microsoft or apple they will talk 2 u all day
why do u constantly hang around here if u r so let down ?????
doesnt pay 2 be short here at ffgo buck a share coming
scurry along now huge divvies coming
paunch13
Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:12:42 PM
Re: Fat Tire post# 204186
Post # of 204193
Flat Tire
If the company ever decides to do their job we will be off and running here on FFGO no matter what anyone says
John
spiritthing
Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:43:43 PM
Re: medchal post# 204183
Post # of 204193
We can"t trade? What is your point with this? Spirit
MBJS
Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:28:39 PM
Re: puppydotcom post# 204194
Post # of 204198
Pupster I guess you have not seen all the post's
Like the one that quotes Wyoming law, that allows the company to ditribute assets to share holders!
MBJS
Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:41:18 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204198
If FFGO is worthless, why are retail brokers reporting shares valued at $.0001 per share?
MBJS
Thursday, August 09, 2012 7:27:05 PM
Re: None
Post # of 204198
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