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Darl J Dumont: dedicated stock message board troll

April 16th, 2008 by Judd Bagley

I would like to address the one interesting and worthwhile point made by the toy army deployed to attack this effort and those people presumed to be part of it.

It came in the form of a question posted to Yahoo’s Overstock.com message board by topangan90065, which reads as follows:

Take a good look at antisocialmedia.net

Go ahead. Take a good look at antisocialmedia.net. Read every word. Help me figure it out.

Just who is the target audience supposed to be? I don’t think anyone not already immersed in the Arcana of Baloney could make heads nor tails of it. You would have at least to have heard of Gary Weiss, and to have given him some credit to be discredited.

And for those of us who ARE immersed, pro or con, what is the goal here? What would it take to make someone STOP thinking Bob is full O’Baloney, and STOP thinking Patty is Wacky?

And suppose, against all odds, they should finally succeed in completely discrediting Gary Weiss?

SO EFFING WHAT? Does that wash out even one KILO of CRUD from the Overstock Warehouse?

Wacky Patty, this whole thing is so DEEPLY WEIRD, it is all past the point of no return.

The question of whom we’re targeting as our audience and what they should learn here is one that this team has been slightly divided over from the beginning.

But here’s what we’ve settled upon:

Just as the existence of a watch requires the existence of a watchmaker, the existence of an organized and well-financed effort to discredit and attack opponents of something requires the existence of proponents of that thing.

In this case, the “thing” is an illegal form of stock market manipulation called strategic failure to deliver. Victims of this form of fraud are many, and include Overstock.com, Novastar Financial and Circle Group Holdings, to name a few (and you’ll understand why those three are mentioned in a moment).

Our goal, from the beginning, has been to demonstrate, with real examples and in real time, the active existence of a “watchmaker” whose job it is to marginalize those who’ve spoken out against the practice of strategic failure to deliver. The past 48 hours have done more than any other period in this blog’s history to demonstrate this and we sincerely thank topangan90065, scippioafricanus, wilburonefor4, azteca_ace, garyweissisright, and the rest of the crew for putting in such long hours for the cause.

That said, let us address a specific point in topangan90065’s comment, but doing so in the context of who topangan90065 really is: Darl J. Dumont of Los Angeles, CA.

darl Darl J Dumont: dedicated stock message board trollDarl, seen here, is a software developer most recently employed by Dolphin Imaging. He at one time lived in Topanga, but now lives nearby, in the 90065 zip code, where the streets are quiet but the incomes don’t generally support heavy duty investing, especially for an old school programmer who at times finds himself freelancing between gigs.

Yet, in the past year, Darl made over 2,540 posts – as many as 55 in one day – to Yahoo message boards. Of those, all but six posts attack three companies: Overstock.com, Novastar Financial, and Z-Trim Holdings (formerly Circle Group Holdings). Of those, the lion’s share of posts are dedicated to attacking the people who run them, especially if they have spoken out against the illegal practice of strategic failure to deliver (following the lead of Gary Weiss, he calls this practice “baloney”).

So when Darl asks:

Just who is the target audience supposed to be? I don’t think anyone not already immersed in the Arcana of Baloney could make heads nor tails of it… And for those of us who ARE immersed, pro or con, what is the goal here? What would it take to make someone STOP thinking Bob [O’Brien] is full O’Baloney, and STOP thinking [Patrick Byrne] is Wacky?

…we hope he appreciates the irony of providing the answer to his own question, and additional weight to our claim.

Post script: In the year since this post was first published, Darl has, very much to his credit, dropped the pseudonym and now posts (at a much lower level) under his real name. Furthermore, his contributions now often border upon objective. The difference, I posit, is anonymity, which I believe will prove to be the Achilles Heel of the Internet.

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3 Responses

  1. rtway Says:

    I was beginning to believe that Darl was reliving his days as a news paperboy (if he ever was one ) as he could not wait to be the first to let everyone know that Gary Weiss had printed a new blog. I thought there was a connection, and maybe that will come out in time. Karma is a bitch Darl. That job at Home Depot would have been much more subdued and it had bennies with no photo exposes.

  2. rtway Says:

    It is with great reluctance that I make this observation but none the less I feel it necessary to point this out. As we stand in line at the super market we will be forced to view the latest addition of the Enquirer and some may even purchase this piece of worthless journalism or thumb threw it. Nothing in there will have the slightest effect on our lives but like moths to a light we will flock. And so it is with Darl. Darl is a mouthpiece for Gary Weiss for he is ever pitching his blog. And there is nothing that Gary wrote that either effects my life or that I even beleive to be truthful or has been altered. For years I exchanged words with Darl when he was topanga something or other, and he was anything but polite. Since he has been outed he has become some what less abrasive but none the less useless. I find it incredible that anyone with a functioning brain knows that he is not going to spend a great deal of his life for humanitarian reasons demeaning Pat Byrne or Overstock because he has nothing better to do like work a real job. I feel that the deserving treatment Darl should receive is total disregard of his very presence. I would venture to say IMO that this would have an affect on Darl and his friends. I beleive he should be totally ignored and I believe this would have zero impact on our lives and maybe a more positive affect as more time will not be wasted on crap. The same amount of time could be spent on making our lives and others more productive and happier and more fun.

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